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Yep, the problem is, both consumers and the manufacturers are the blame. Manufacturers for pushing the bloated vehicles that increase their profits, and the consumer for lapping it up like sheep.That stuff really brings out the curmudgeon in me. Suburbanite dimwits who drive house-sized SUVs and ginormous pickup trucks for the sake of consumerist conformity, status or because they'd rather be surrounded by multi-tons of steel than actually learn how to drive defensively.
As someone in the automotive engineering field. I have long said there is absolutely a market and benefits for EV's. The issue is, they are being pushed outside of that market for where they are simply not suitable. In cities and for communing, they are perfect. For towing, forget it. Rural areas? not practical.I am finding myself starting to come around a little on EVs. I still think there are drawbacks and I think the mining required for lithium batteries among other things means that EVs are not as green as they first seem. I'm not sure if there are any studies out there on complete lifetime savings, IE emissions from gathering required resources, to manufacture to usage and then finally disposal but that would probably make for an interesting read.
My other bugbear, is them being pushed as 100% green. After about 8 yrs, their carbon offset is the same as a ICE car (when you include manufacturing). So long term, they are cleaner. But the other facets are:
1. Realistically, the majority of people don't keep their cars 8 years or more.
2. It has been documented that Tesla, amongst others, have batteries that expire after 10 yrs or so. Therefore, you are only getting approx 2 years of carbon free usage.
There is also the issue, of potentially drawing energy from your car while it is charging in your garage when connected to the Local/State/National grid. It's akin to stealing petrol out of your car.At this point my biggest problem with EVs is how locked down they are. Tesla won't let you use their charging network if they find out that your car was salvaged and rebuilt. It's absurd. Imagine not being able to buy gas because you did an engine swap.
As you noted, if that truly want to go green, then they need to make electric cars cheaper and eliminate all the interlocks required to use them. I certainly don't like the oversight Tesla in particular seem to have and want over cars they no longer own.