Interesting developments in Ducati's future
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When asked whether the rumours that the sponsor could be Red Bull are true, Suppo said: "Hopefully."
Was a pick of Hayden in Red Bull fedora. Don't know what happened.
Was a pick of Hayden in Red Bull fedora. Don't know what happened.
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That would really be great if Red Bull came back into the sport. It would be very interesting though, as I've read Red Bull only get involved with teams if they are in control of what is happening. That's why the Red Bull KR project never worked out. That's sort of contradictory to the direction Ducati appear to be heading with that team.
In any case, I'd say it's becoming abundantly clear that Ducati got rid of D'Antin for sucking. Hopefully they can get that team heading in the right direction and running like a proper team and get rid of the ridiculously shoddy crap of the past.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 18 2008, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kallio and Spies to ride the Ducati junior squad?
That's a salivating prospect.
That's a salivating prospect.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 18 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's a salivating prospect.
Only if ducati plans to put a 695 in a superbike frame and market it to americans
Only if ducati plans to put a 695 in a superbike frame and market it to americans
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 18 2008, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kallio and Spies to ride the Ducati junior squad?
Wow, that really makes me salivate. Two of my favorites on my favorite marque.
I don't think Kallio will be on the baby team, I think Gibby will be.
In Gibby's interview he was talking about what he needed to come back. Ducati seem very high on Gibby right now, so I can only conclude that Hayden has already signed. D'Antin was fired so the satellite team can improve. From what Barros was saying, the biggest problem with the team is management and lack of personnel. It seems Gibby would never have signed to ride D'Antin in its current config.
Dorna will no doubt be subsidizing the project in order to get more riders on equal equipment in order to improve the lack of spectacle.
Wow, that really makes me salivate. Two of my favorites on my favorite marque.
I don't think Kallio will be on the baby team, I think Gibby will be.
In Gibby's interview he was talking about what he needed to come back. Ducati seem very high on Gibby right now, so I can only conclude that Hayden has already signed. D'Antin was fired so the satellite team can improve. From what Barros was saying, the biggest problem with the team is management and lack of personnel. It seems Gibby would never have signed to ride D'Antin in its current config.
Dorna will no doubt be subsidizing the project in order to get more riders on equal equipment in order to improve the lack of spectacle.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 18 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow, that really makes me salivate. Two of my favorites on my favorite marque.
I don't think Kallio will be on the baby team, I think Gibby will be.
In Gibby's interview he was talking about what he needed to come back. Ducati seem very high on Gibby right now, so I can only conclude that Hayden has already signed. D'Antin was fired so the satellite team can improve. From what Barros was saying, the biggest problem with the team is management and lack of personnel. It seems Gibby would never have signed to ride D'Antin in its current config.
Dorna will no doubt be subsidizing the project in order to get more riders on equal equipment in order to improve the lack of spectacle.
It has never been in ducati's interests, commercial and otherwise, to have 3 ducatis at the back of the field.
Even if the other ducatis are more competitive next year it still doesn't mean the sport doesn't need to address the tc etc issue. Ezy is apparently now blaming the manufacturers for the dud formula; I am inclined to think he has a case.
I don't think Kallio will be on the baby team, I think Gibby will be.
In Gibby's interview he was talking about what he needed to come back. Ducati seem very high on Gibby right now, so I can only conclude that Hayden has already signed. D'Antin was fired so the satellite team can improve. From what Barros was saying, the biggest problem with the team is management and lack of personnel. It seems Gibby would never have signed to ride D'Antin in its current config.
Dorna will no doubt be subsidizing the project in order to get more riders on equal equipment in order to improve the lack of spectacle.
It has never been in ducati's interests, commercial and otherwise, to have 3 ducatis at the back of the field.
Even if the other ducatis are more competitive next year it still doesn't mean the sport doesn't need to address the tc etc issue. Ezy is apparently now blaming the manufacturers for the dud formula; I am inclined to think he has a case.
Maybe D'Antin couldn't be payed and was in some kind of deal with Alice.Then they talked to Mika Kallio/Redbull,and Redbull wanted another manager?
Anyway,Kallio on Satellite Ducati would be just great! And Spies would be a bonus too.
By the way, to salivate,is that the same thing as to drewl?
Sorry,i'm an ignorant Swede so i don't know all the good words in English.
Anyway,Kallio on Satellite Ducati would be just great! And Spies would be a bonus too.
By the way, to salivate,is that the same thing as to drewl?
Sorry,i'm an ignorant Swede so i don't know all the good words in English.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Anders GUZZI @ Jul 18 2008, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>By the way, to salivate,is that the same thing as to drewl?
Sort of, except it may or may not be running down your face. You must salivate to drool, but you don't need to drool if you are salivating.
Sort of, except it may or may not be running down your face. You must salivate to drool, but you don't need to drool if you are salivating.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Jul 18 2008, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sort of, except it may or may not be running down your face. You must salivate to drool, but you don't need to drool if you are salivating.
I understand,thanks.
I understand,thanks.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 19 2008, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It has never been in ducati's interests, commercial and otherwise, to have 3 ducatis at the back of the field.
Even if the other ducatis are more competitive next year it still doesn't mean the sport doesn't need to address the tc etc issue. Ezy is apparently now blaming the manufacturers for the dud formula; I am inclined to think he has a case.
When a GSXR1000 with Spies sitting on it is capable (on FP1 times Laguna) running fourth or on fp2 running 7th there is something wrong with the manufacturers
It's amazing, millions or dollars, engineers, and ostensibly the best riders and they can barely beat a production (homogolation) series.
F1 would die in a second if a touring car could lap 1 or 2 seconds behind it.
More power to Ducati for being able to RACE
Racing does have as its ultimate goal WINNING. I am honestly sick of this best and fairest award mentality running through the paddock and fan base at the moment. The best and fairest award was the award (in Rugby – will confuse Americans) we gave to gimpy kids who were never going to really cut it and score many points anyway.
So we want to lower the bar so the "best and fairest" can win and we will have a competition for gimps. This has become the overriding philosophy of motogp and it is so sad, listening to people asking for the bikes to be slowed because their rider isn’t going so well.
For motogp speed is life
Even if the other ducatis are more competitive next year it still doesn't mean the sport doesn't need to address the tc etc issue. Ezy is apparently now blaming the manufacturers for the dud formula; I am inclined to think he has a case.
When a GSXR1000 with Spies sitting on it is capable (on FP1 times Laguna) running fourth or on fp2 running 7th there is something wrong with the manufacturers
It's amazing, millions or dollars, engineers, and ostensibly the best riders and they can barely beat a production (homogolation) series.
F1 would die in a second if a touring car could lap 1 or 2 seconds behind it.
More power to Ducati for being able to RACE
Racing does have as its ultimate goal WINNING. I am honestly sick of this best and fairest award mentality running through the paddock and fan base at the moment. The best and fairest award was the award (in Rugby – will confuse Americans) we gave to gimpy kids who were never going to really cut it and score many points anyway.
So we want to lower the bar so the "best and fairest" can win and we will have a competition for gimps. This has become the overriding philosophy of motogp and it is so sad, listening to people asking for the bikes to be slowed because their rider isn’t going so well.
For motogp speed is life
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 19 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When a GSXR1000 with Spies sitting on it is capable (on FP1 times Laguna) running fourth or on fp2 running 7th there is something wrong with the manufacturers
It's amazing, millions or dollars, engineers, and ostensibly the best riders and they can barely beat a production (homogolation) series.
F1 would die in a second if a touring car could lap 1 or 2 seconds behind it.
More power to Ducati for being able to RACE
Racing does have as its ultimate goal WINNING. I am honestly sick of this best and fairest award mentality running through the paddock and fan base at the moment. The best and fairest award was the award (in Rugby – will confuse Americans) we gave to gimpy kids who were never going to really cut it and score many points anyway.
So we want to lower the bar so the "best and fairest" can win and we will have a competition for gimps. This has become the overriding philosophy of motogp and it is so sad, listening to people asking for the bikes to be slowed because their rider isn’t going so well.
For motogp speed is life
LEt me tell you something Roo. YOu are right!!! This fair ........ and lets give trophys to everyone is ......... What is competition then. If we go to race who wants to win.... ahh it doesn't matter. ........ there are alot of pussified tree huggin ....'s that infiltrate the wolrd so that now we all have to tolerate mediocrity. Well I for one, Curve and it looks like Roo are all on the same page. Here is for run what ya brung. Ah .... I guess it's racin'. Sorry buddy I was just tryin to win the race and you were just a slow piece of .... on my way to the finish line. The old 500's were the most incredible machines ever to be raced period. .... cars and dragracers those things were evil. This world would be a beter place if everyone realized that it takes hard work not handouts!!! Right on Roo!
It's amazing, millions or dollars, engineers, and ostensibly the best riders and they can barely beat a production (homogolation) series.
F1 would die in a second if a touring car could lap 1 or 2 seconds behind it.
More power to Ducati for being able to RACE
Racing does have as its ultimate goal WINNING. I am honestly sick of this best and fairest award mentality running through the paddock and fan base at the moment. The best and fairest award was the award (in Rugby – will confuse Americans) we gave to gimpy kids who were never going to really cut it and score many points anyway.
So we want to lower the bar so the "best and fairest" can win and we will have a competition for gimps. This has become the overriding philosophy of motogp and it is so sad, listening to people asking for the bikes to be slowed because their rider isn’t going so well.
For motogp speed is life
LEt me tell you something Roo. YOu are right!!! This fair ........ and lets give trophys to everyone is ......... What is competition then. If we go to race who wants to win.... ahh it doesn't matter. ........ there are alot of pussified tree huggin ....'s that infiltrate the wolrd so that now we all have to tolerate mediocrity. Well I for one, Curve and it looks like Roo are all on the same page. Here is for run what ya brung. Ah .... I guess it's racin'. Sorry buddy I was just tryin to win the race and you were just a slow piece of .... on my way to the finish line. The old 500's were the most incredible machines ever to be raced period. .... cars and dragracers those things were evil. This world would be a beter place if everyone realized that it takes hard work not handouts!!! Right on Roo!
Guys,
I understand what you guys are saying about GSR1000s being close to Motgp FP1 times but come on. The times will drop.
I would love to see Kallio and SPIES on the Ducati.
That would be exciting. Spies would definitely ride the hell out of bike.
I understand what you guys are saying about GSR1000s being close to Motgp FP1 times but come on. The times will drop.
I would love to see Kallio and SPIES on the Ducati.
That would be exciting. Spies would definitely ride the hell out of bike.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jul 19 2008, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LEt me tell you something Roo. YOu are right!!! This fair ........ and lets give trophys to everyone is ......... What is competition then. If we go to race who wants to win.... ahh it doesn't matter. ........ there are alot of pussified tree huggin ....'s that infiltrate the wolrd so that now we all have to tolerate mediocrity. Well I for one, Curve and it looks like Roo are all on the same page. Here is for run what ya brung. Ah .... I guess it's racin'. Sorry buddy I was just tryin to win the race and you were just a slow piece of .... on my way to the finish line. The old 500's were the most incredible machines ever to be raced period. .... cars and dragracers those things were evil. This world would be a beter place if everyone realized that it takes hard work not handouts!!! Right on Roo!
yep. competition is a dirty word. unless the tards are on level footing you're somehow treating them like ..... Mediocrity is attainable by the majority, superiority over your competitors is attained by a select few. The few should be lauded.
Oh and .... all the ........ about GSXR's being at whatever ....... time. From Jamie Hacking "The bike - the way you ride these bikes are nothing even comparable to the way you ride our AMA Superbikes. This bike here, you ride it like a proper race bike."
yep. competition is a dirty word. unless the tards are on level footing you're somehow treating them like ..... Mediocrity is attainable by the majority, superiority over your competitors is attained by a select few. The few should be lauded.
Oh and .... all the ........ about GSXR's being at whatever ....... time. From Jamie Hacking "The bike - the way you ride these bikes are nothing even comparable to the way you ride our AMA Superbikes. This bike here, you ride it like a proper race bike."
