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HJC Helmets Grand Prix de France 2017

Miller's crash was really upsetting to watch. He was so lucky not to have got flung against the wall. I nearly .... myself watching that. Zarco looks great. I hope he doesn't give us a Qatar redux.
 
With all the crashes, the Q1 and Q2 drama and the Zarco show (it seems he's coping with pressure nicely after all... chapeau!) one shouldn't ovelook that the KTMs are getting there -- both in the top 10. They could soon become the only manufacturer who's officially present and doing well in all 3 classes.
 
Rossi
Zarco
Vinales


...did JLo even show up for work today or did he just spit his dummy out over tire voting and decided to go slow for the rest of the weekend....?
 
Rossi sounded confident in parc ferme , could be a good race between the Yamahas , looks like they have the pace for the win, hope Dani can fight through from row 5 as his lap times looked good.
 
I give him a 6.5 He didnt stick the landing.
Yeah, but he was trying to sink with his partner. The bike let him down. He deserves another 2 points for holding up the whole performance.

Good to see you posting JPSLotus. We will need to move on, just like after Marco.

I am still putting in a vote for MM to pressure the Yamahas.
Johnny will make Val nervous early on, and Cal and Marc will seize the opportunity to get in the mix. Marc is more aggressive at the start than Mav, so it is possible Mav won't disappear on them all. George will tool around until a couple people crash, and then take sixth. If it rains, all bets are off and Jack wins!!!
 
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I looked at 2013, because it was a good year for Cal at Tech3. He was on the front row seven times, and had two poles. And it still didn't happen that year. Amazing.
I will check another year, later, unless someone beats me to it. ;)
 
I don't know if anyone else feels the same way, but after the news about Nicky, I can't even really get enthused about this weekend's race at all. I'll still be watching come Sunday, but my enthusiasm is currently nonexistent.

Much as I really hate what has happened to Nicky and hope that he recovers, life will carry on and I'm sure he would agree that, my feelings about the race are its being dedicated to him and quite rightly. On that basis, yes I am really looking forward to it especially with Zarco on the front row. Look out Rossi :)
 
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Much as I really hate what has happened to Nicky and hope that he recovers, life will carry on and I'm sure he would agree that, my feelings about the race are its being dedicated to him and quite rightly. On that basis, yes I am really looking forward to it especially with Zarco on the front row. Look out Rossi :)

Sepang pt II?
 
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one shouldn't ovelook that the KTMs are getting there -- both in the top 10. They could soon become the only manufacturer who's officially present and doing well in all 3 classes.

+1. The switch to the uneven firing order has been a revelation. I think I expressed before my amazement that a brand new prototype 1ltr motorcycle should run a screamer configuration...particularly in a steel duplex chassis. Was aghast when Ducati did exactly the same in 2003. The original M1 was a screamer too as was the Cube and the ZXR. Shove Akira Yanagawa on the latter and what could possibly go wrong?

Rossi sounded confident in parc ferme , could be a good race between the Yamahas , looks like they have the pace for the win, hope Dani can fight through from row 5 as his lap times looked good.

The recent test by Yamaha was very prudent given the resurfacing. Massive advantage this weekend.
 
+1. The switch to the uneven firing order has been a revelation. I think I expressed before my amazement that a brand new prototype 1ltr motorcycle should run a screamer configuration...particularly in a steel duplex chassis. Was aghast when Ducati did exactly the same in 2003. The original M1 was a screamer too as was the Cube and the ZXR. Shove Akira Yanagawa on the latter and what could possibly go wrong?



The recent test by Yamaha was very prudent given the resurfacing. Massive advantage this weekend.

I'm still of the opinion the final hurdle KTM is going to have to surpass is to be on even ground with Honda and Yamaha...and that is far easier said than done given the sort of advantage they are working with...and have been working with for decades. Suzuki since the early-80s has only sporadically challenged that hegemony, and Ducati only ever managed it once successfully. KTM has good intentions of challenging those two, but as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

With that said, one thing is for certain, success is also going to be predicated on their ability to attract a top flight rider for I would say the 2019 season. Watching the engine firing order change have the sort of impact was a good step in the direction of putting together a package that can attract such a rider. My thought now is that I suspect Lorenzo will leave Ducati and go to the KTM for 2019 assuming they continue progressing throughout 2017 and through 2018. I believe Zarco is destined for Rossi's seat barring any major unplanned event that would close that off, so Lorenzo's best option could actually be KTM and not Suzuki.
 
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Just seen that Miller crash ............. ...., and while it may be bad form, geez I saw some initial similarity to the Simoncelli crash in the way the front acted together with the right turn momentum, but hell that fence and the box his head hits ......... shiiiiit as we say down here.

Then, he gets up walks away (probably for an underwear change) and goes out in q2 and is quicker .................. and footballers reckon they are tough playing on with a hamstring twinge

As for the rest, well time will tell but I hope that Zarco holds his head together with the pressure of home race and gets a podium, any step
 
I'm still of the opinion the final hurdle KTM is going to have to surpass is to be on even ground with Honda and Yamaha...and that is far easier said than done given the sort of advantage they are working with...and have been working with for decades. Suzuki since the early-80s has only sporadically challenged that hegemony, and Ducati only ever managed it once successfully. KTM has good intentions of challenging those two, but as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

With that said, one thing is for certain, success is also going to be predicated on their ability to attract a top flight rider for I would say the 2019 season. Watching the engine firing order change have the sort of impact was a good step in the direction of putting together a package that can attract such a rider. My thought now is that I suspect Lorenzo will leave Ducati and go to the KTM for 2019 assuming they continue progressing throughout 2017 and through 2018. I believe Zarco is destined for Rossi's seat barring any major unplanned event that would close that off, so Lorenzo's best option could actually be KTM and not Suzuki.

I think KTM still have a very long way to go yet, they have only competed in 4 GP races with a best finishing place of 14th. GP is an enormous challenge for any team, they have made a good start don't get me wrong, but its not surprising given they have so many concessions and a huge factory budget to make every use of it. The season is still young, I think the big factory teams like Yamaha and Honda will see some considerable improvement before too long ... the "small/if any" performance advantage they have currenlty over Tech 3, MarcVDS and LCR won't last forever.

The Ducati was a challenging bike even for Casey Stoner .. nothing has changed there. Since 2007 it has struggled as years went on but I think in the last few years they are making some small but solid improvements to have a bike that is slowly becoming more consistently competitive with both of their riders .... baby steps.
 
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I'm suprised i haven't seen anyone mentioning rossi cruising in qualifying and messing up reddings lap. That's the second time this season. First it was at austin with vinales.

When rea cruised at assen this year messing up davies his lap he got a 3 place grid penalty. And i think that was rea his first time of doing that this season.
 
I'm watching the warm up and the commentators made a mention of rumours around a spat behind the scenes between Lorenzo and Miller - anyone know what that's about?

Totally irrelevant I know but I'm curious as I was only noticing their bromance on ig
 

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