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Had the top 4 riders,hypothetically,been at 100 % fitness all year long,who would take the title?

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anoR6ikos

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I know it sounds pretty silly,but what the f@ck,we have to wait another 20 days to smell rubber at Brno,so we can discuss ........ threads!
But,joking aside,imagine the situation!
I think that it would be the closest championship in the history of motorcycle racing,at this level!
I really can't be sure who would be crowned...
But i would exclude Dani for sure...
What do you believe?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (anoR6ikos @ Jul 29 2009, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What do you believe?
I believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Lucky Charms Leprechaun. There, how's that for silly?
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But to entertain your hypothetical question, I "believe" it would have went like this: Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner, Pedrosa. Which oddly is how it is right now.
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i think it will be between stoner and rossi, i mean , lorenzo is very good but he has been there fighting with rossi cause he got a better base setting earlier in the season,something that rossi didn't manage to achieve that early until this last races but still jorge is a step ahead on the setting of the bike, and we all know stoner is ....... fast(still a moaner tho!
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) , he always managed to be .5 secs ahead of the rest on practice and ...., but this year he apparently has stamina problems (i think is a cover up for some kind of tyre life problem). pedrosa is good but he need everything perfect in order to win so i will say the title would have been between rossi and the lady in red,and of course after some pressure ... vale will have taken the title
 
Its terrible that both WSBK & GP take breaks at the same time. This is rather cruel of them.

To answer your question, I think it would be: Stoner, Rossi, Lorenzo, and a very distant Peders.

Stoner has show when healthy he was consistently faster.

(BTW, I really doubt you will get any significant insight on this question.)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 29 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its terrible that both WSBK & GP take breaks at the same time. This is rather cruel of them.

To answer your question, I think it would be: Stoner, Rossi, Lorenzo, and a very distant Peders.

Stoner has show when healthy he was consistently faster.

(BTW, I really doubt you will get any significant insight on this question.)
Why in that order ??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 29 2009, 07:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why in that order ??
Well the guy asked the question if everybody was 100% fit. I think the only reason Stoner hasn't won more races is because of his "mystery illness".
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I believe he would be leading right now.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 29 2009, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well the guy asked the question if everybody was 100% fit. I think the only reason Stoner hasn't won more races is because of his "mystery illness".
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I believe he would be leading right now.
but a completely fit stoner aint ever likely to happen
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Hypochondriac's like the attention illness brings. if theres no attention for winning races then this is the next best thing
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besides, i thought we all agreed the yam is the bike to have and the duc and a patch on the old 07 bike
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 29 2009, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but a completely fit stoner aint ever likely to happen
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Hypochondriac's like the attention illness brings. if theres no attention for winning races then this is the next best thing
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Maybe he should run wets all the time then, look how much "attention" that got him.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 29 2009, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe he should run wets all the time then, look how much "attention" that got him.
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maybe your on to something, and hayboy was just being a sheep and following stoner style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (anoR6ikos @ Jul 29 2009, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know it sounds pretty silly,but what the f@ck,we have to wait another 20 days to smell rubber at Brno,so we can discuss ........ threads!
But,joking aside,imagine the situation!
I think that it would be the closest championship in the history of motorcycle racing,at this level!
I really can't be sure who would be crowned...
But i would exclude Dani for sure...
What do you believe?
1. Rossi
2. who cares..... (same for 3 & 4)

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Not many contenders were hurt...Stacey Moaner's periods don't count. The championship would be about the same
QAT
Pedrosa +6
USA
Lorenzo + 8

Stacey was never fast enough to catch Jorge and Rossi at CAT and finished where he belonged, 3rd and 9 seconds off the leaders.
 
I agree it really wouldn't matter Rossi would still be at the top maybe with Lorenzo close behind and Casey at 3 or a healthy Peders at 3 either way Rossi would still be at the top! in 07 when Stoner kicked everyones ... he was the only one of these guys on Bridgestones and jorge was in the 250's maybe that had something to do with his dominanence. In Racing .... happens all the time its partof the racers Job to deal with that .... and find a way to win!
 
1. Rossi - I still believe he has what it takes to beat any challenger in MotoGP, so long as he has a decent machine between his legs.

2. Stoner - Lorenzo is the future without question, but at the moment Stoner is the main contender when healthy.

3. Lorenzo - Will only improve as time goes on...

4. Pedrosa - I have been saying from the beginning that he doesn't have what it takes. He rides with no balls anytime the going gets tough. On an empty track going against the clock I would put him up there with the rest of them, but in a race, anytime pressure is put on him he crumbles. Good rider, bad racer.

MotoGP centers around these four at the moment, compared to the rest of the field they are simply in a different league.
 
I think it'd be the same as it is now, just alot closer.

I think Stoner is faster than Lorenzo if he was fully fit, but only just, and Lorenzo will only get better.
 
No excuses are valid in this area. Ensuring fitness/lack of injury is very much part of the game, and rossi's phenomenal durability and ability to avoid injury are very much major contributors to his record.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DirtyD86 @ Jul 30 2009, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>4. Pedrosa - I have been saying from the beginning that he doesn't have what it takes. He rides with no balls anytime the going gets tough. On an empty track going against the clock I would put him up there with the rest of them, but in a race, anytime pressure is put on him he crumbles. Good rider, bad racer.


hahhahah typical stupid comment "he can only lead from the front to finish first"

why has it then that pedrosa has rarly cracked the front row in qualifying this year? yet he finishes in most races ahead of his qualiifying position. a .... "racer" couldnt do that.

also welll duuuuuuuh obviosly if someone is leading they have a better chance of winning. jeezez fucken christ.
 
VR of course.....any doubt about that has to reside in the relms of lunacy fueled by copious amounts of bias.

Jorhenzo is certainly faster than CS when both are fit too, proved it at CAT and Mot, and he has access to those network drives at Fiat Yamaha for the best settings in the game. So I would have to go with him for second.

Pedderobot for third as he has had a bad trot with stacks and soreness. His speed at Laguna just a glimpse of what we may have seen otherwise.....

CS fourth, Donny's dumb-... gamble proved that they do not have the answers for 2009, and fourth is a good spot for him....we get to watch him ride a little bit, then we get the post-race exaggerated look at the tyre or shake head at team on pit wall and then the Grandpa Simpson walk which is entertaining. But we don't have to listen to the moan in the interviews.....perfect!

5th would be Dovi 'the Hat'. The nearly there man.....as always
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Aug 2 2009, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>VR of course.....any doubt about that has to reside in the relms of lunacy fueled by copious amounts of bias.

Jorhenzo is certainly faster than CS when both are fit too, proved it at CAT and Mot, and he has access to those network drives at Fiat Yamaha for the best settings in the game. So I would have to go with him for second.
Lorenzo is better than stoner thus far this year, no excuses can be made, if stoner is less fit or has a slower bike he should make efforts to change this.

However you seem happy to argue whilst accusing others of bias that it is lorenzo rather than his bike that is faster than stoner, whilst denying the same argument when it is applied to stoner.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Aug 2 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo is better than stoner thus far this year, no excuses can be made, if stoner is less fit or has a slower bike he should make efforts to change this.

However you seem happy to argue whilst accusing others of bias that it is lorenzo rather than his bike that is faster than stoner, whilst denying the same argument when it is applied to stoner.

Did you read the part about the 'access to the Fiat Yamaha Network drives' in that post? I have mentioned this before as well, make what you want from it (and no doubt you will) I've always blatantly expressed my dislike for Stoner.....at no point have I said that Jorhenzo was a better rider.

My point I will express again, as previously it was so drowned in subtlety some couldn't comprende, Jorge would be in better shape than Stoner fully fit as he is an 'exceptional rider', on the best bike in the field thanks to his teammate and Jeremy Burgess.

Pretty ordinary effort at disrepute........
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