Guareschi: I've never seen a talent like Casey

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 5 2010, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure Pigeon posts these for "..... and giggles"!
Pigeon did post it though ! More proof you dont actually read who said what

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nghiemlong @ Mar 5 2010, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who is Vito? An average test rider who never know how to ride fast, and never work with other top riders.

Keep dreaming TP70.

Seems a bit harsh considering the time Vito spent racing
Didn't some auld grumpy Aussie called Doohan do similar on them thar 500cc lawnmower thingys years ago
If I remember rightly he made a comment about his right wrist being all the traction control and anti wheelie stuff he would ever need.................a true master of the art.not an electronics boy like most are now.


tongue firmly in cheek here ..................cos it seems casey can ride a bit

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 5 2010, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure Pigeon posts these for "..... and giggles"!


Yeah same thing happened with the Tardossi thread ...... the Boppers inundated it with protestation

Tis good entertainment though

That's what where here for..... Giggles.Entertainment.and hopefully stuff stays <span style="color:#FF0000On <span style="color:#FF0000Topic.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Mar 5 2010, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's what where here for..... Giggles.Entertainment.and hopefully stuff stays <span style="color:#FF0000On <span style="color:#FF0000Topic.

oops sorry Jr4no and Pigeon, just used to Pigeon posting not long after crash puts em up.

Still stands on the ..... and giggles though

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 5 2010, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nothing to go crazy about, it's just a fact---a postulate really. Just watch him ride.

Having the most raw talent doesn't mean you're the best rider in the paddock, it just means you can do special things with the bike. In Stoner's case, he's also pretty consistent so he's a perennial contender as well.

Well said Lex,we only have to refer to Phillip Island in 09 to see it.And NO! boys and girls I`m not a Stoner bopper! The lad just has raw talent.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nghiemlong @ Mar 5 2010, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>who is Vito? An average test rider who never know how to ride fast, and never work with other top riders.
Guareschi is one of the most respected test riders in the world, I don't think there's any current test rider who has stayed in one spot as long as Guareschi has been with Ducati. His work is clearly very much appreciated by Ducati, otherwise I don't think they would have promoted him to team manager. He was also a WSBK star.

Just because he doesn't work with Valentino doesn't make him a nobody.

Thanks Austin for info.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 5 2010, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Guareschi is one of the most respected test riders in the world, I don't think there's any current test rider who has stayed in one spot as long as Guareschi has been with Ducati. His work is clearly very much appreciated by Ducati, otherwise I don't think they would have promoted him to team manager. He was also a WSBK star.

Just because he doesn't work with Valentino doesn't make him a nobody.

yeah casey is rising for sure but i don't think vale is declining just yet, phisically maybe a little but certainly not mentally!! he looks hungrier than ever

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 4 2010, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Vitto Guareschi interviewed by "Riders" magazine:

"Casey has so much talent, I've never seen the same in anybody else, not even in Rossi. I know the bike he rides and I can assure you, he does incredible things...".

"Casey brakes with his toes in the middle of a corner and opens the throttle at the same time. He's capable to manage the power of the bike in acceleration using the rear brake, a sort of do-it-yourself antispin. Crazy stuff. They asked me to replicate the same maneuver in order to analyze the data better, but I answered: if he earns four or five millions more than me, there must be a reason".


Surely not usage of the rear brake

....Berry?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 5 2010, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely not usage of the rear brake

....Berry?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 5 2010, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ben Spies as well remarked that he's been passed by Casey in the recent Sepang tests in such a way, that he felt like returning to the garage and throwing his helmet away for good. He confirms Stoner can do things with a bike, no other rider does.



Nice quote, do you remember where you saw it?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 6 2010, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely not usage of the rear brake

....Berry?


Which I never disagreed with .......

Its the initiating it with the rear brake I disagree with, keep trying

trying to avoid that now ?


He's pretty much doing exactly what I said.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Vitto Guareschi interviewed by "Riders" magazine:

"Casey brakes with his toes in the middle of a corner and opens the throttle at the same time. He's capable to manage the power of the bike in acceleration using the rear brake, a sort of do-it-yourself antispin.


He's not breaking traction with it, he's controlling how much of the traction he is breaking with acceleration. Ie Acceleration/power is breaking it, the rearbrake is controlling that.
( H's not skidding it to break traction as you say should be done )
Again a technique he very likely got from his young days as a dirt track rider here. As I tried to discuss, but got so much sooking that that kinda got lost.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Mar 5 2010, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wise decision considering the past 2 seasons

i was thinking the same dam ....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Mar 6 2010, 07:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nice quote, do you remember where you saw it?

Not suprised really ...... Adrianna needs to watch those two ..... bit of a lovefest going on between Stoner and Spies.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...mp;R=EPI-122515

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...sed-with-spies/

Doesn't include your quote, but does show that theres a lot of "lovin" goin on there, and one could easily believe such was said.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 5 2010, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not suprised really ...... Adrianna needs to watch those two ..... bit of a lovefest going on between Stoner and Spies.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...mp;R=EPI-122515

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...sed-with-spies/



thats cool..lets see how buddy buddy they stay when Spies pulls a hard pass on Stoner...

By the way..its all in the plan...Spies is gonna get in Adriannas panties

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 6 2010, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats cool..lets see how buddy buddy they stay when Spies pulls a hard pass on Stoner...

By the way..its all in the plan...Spies is gonna get in Adriannas panties


Thats some serious "kiddy crap" you got going there Curve.



Geeeeez , you have no idea Curve

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 5 2010, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Geeeeez , you have no idea Curve

no YOU dont

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 5 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Which I never disagreed with .......

Its the initiating it with the rear brake I disagree with, keep trying

trying to avoid that now are? we I see.

He's prettymuch doing exactly what I said.




He's not breaking traction with it, he's controlling how much of the traction he is breaking with acceleration. Ie Acceleration/power is breaking it, the rearbrake is controlling that.
( H's not skidding it to break traction as you say should be done )
Again a technique he very likely got from his young days as a dirt track rider here. As I tried to discuss, but got so much sooking that that kinda got lost.
Who mentioned skidding? - and you yourself earlier said that there was no use of the back brake whatsoever on the dirt - I can quote this if you wish. Backtracking again Berry?

As Rog said, you should concentrate on reading other peoples posts, instead of punctuating every other word with emotions.

Actually, I fully understand that he's not breaking traction thanks Berry - it takes seconds to reel you in, and throw you back - and you fell for it as usual.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 28 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interestingly today they were discussing during the Superbike Coverage that the Doohan style handlebar mounted thumb back brakes were now widely deployed in adition to the back brake lever in the main to dampen wheelies (in spite of the abundance of electronics) and as an added control to wheelspin.

Touch a raw nerve here Berry? You seem a tad flustered - or could it be because it seems yer boy Casey uses the rear brake. If I'd suggested this yesterday, as an aid to traction, you'd have ridiculed me again. Feel free to carry on - I'll just post those quotes where you said there is no use for the rear brake at all in any motorcylcle racing - and you weren't just referring to backing in. Go back and look berry - it's all there. (Clue: Nicky's rear 255mm disc posts)

Give it up and take a tablet you sicko !!

You got it wrong ....... live with it.