gresini unhappy

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60495weve heard about this already but here it is in black & white.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jul 5 2007, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60495weve heard about this already but here it is in black & white.

good for him.. stand your ground. make em .... some real parts. .... or get off the pot.

it will be even worse for marco if duhamel finishes higher than him, mabe marco has lost his bottle.

Is it really the bike or is it just him being crap??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqar 46 @ Jul 5 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it really the bike or is it just him being crap??
when marco's head is right and he's happy he is a great rider, but he's defo on a downer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 5 2007, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>when marco's head is right and he's happy he is a great rider, but he's defo on a downer.
I still can't see why he's being so rubbish at the moment. What went wrong?

While Marco may be justified in feeling the way he has. Making such statements in public does no one any good, especially him.. He needs to remember that there are more riders than manufacturers. If a rider repeatedly complains about a bike (like Biaggi) no manufacturer will give him a chance to ride their bikes after a while.

There is always WSBK Marco...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (news1213 @ Jul 5 2007, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always WSBK Marco...


and ducati. ??

I wolld be POd if I was Gresini... Marco has basically said he won't put in any more effort. All this with his team mate recovering from a broken leg.

I like Marco, but he does tend to run his mouth on occasion...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Waqar 46 @ Jul 5 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it really the bike or is it just him being crap??

A bit of both probably....considering Elias has had a podium and better finishes then Marco this year and Elias has never been a champion like Marco...so perhaps the balance is tiping toward Marco over the bike being crap!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chanchan @ Jul 5 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and ducati. ??

I was actually referring to crvlvr's statement about Marco going down the 'Biaggi' road if he keeps his current attitude towards his teams..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chanchan @ Jul 5 2007, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and ducati. ??

Oh, I would hate to see that....If a Malboro Ducati seat does become available then I would prefer to see Hopper get the ride. Give the Mad Hopper American/Brit a shot a really competative bike for 1 year and see if he is as good as he as it is belived he can be or is....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Jul 5 2007, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, I would hate to see that....If a Malboro Ducati seat does become available then I would prefer to see Hopper get the ride. Give the Mad Hopper American/Brit a shot a really competative bike for 1 year and see if he is as good as he as it is belived he can be or is....
i am pretty sure the monster/ hoppa/kwacka deal is done.

there are still rumours about capriex resigning for Ducati but for less money aswell as the kwacka 2 year deal for him ,

Cant see Ducati not having at least one Italian rider.

Silly season is in full swing.

have more news after Germany, things will start to settle back down i hope and get on with racing


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (news1213 @ Jul 5 2007, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was actually referring to crvlvr's statement about Marco going down the 'Biaggi' road if he keeps his current attitude towards his teams..

soz i get the pun now

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chanchan @ Jul 5 2007, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>there are still rumours about capriex resigning for Ducati but for less money

Cant see Ducati not having at least one Italian rider.

Capirossi is not delivering as well as the bike can deliver, so all options should be on the table for Ducati...besides if Ducati and Harley D are considering a paper merger then an American Rider would statisfy the American Money men from HD....so anything is possible...

Actually no team want a bad mouther. Both Yamaha and honda have directives that Boaggi won't be allowed to ride their works bikes in any serries. Other factories will probabel do the same. the Ducati's may be performing well right now. But, then that may not continue forever. Manufacturer's support like riders that are supportive of their bikes.

When Rossi lost the first race to the Ducati this year, he almost said, "my bike was not as fast the Ducati.." but then he quickly changed it to ".. not as fast as the "other " bike".

If I was looking a hiring a rider he would be bottom of the list. I cannot stand it when someone doesn't want to fight for every position on the track. In one of the earlier races this year I was listening to Darryl Beattie talk about Vermuelen and Barros battling at Jerez. Barros apparently said 'why is this guy banging bars with me for 10th place'. Chris 'because thats my job'.

The bike isn't working well for him, so thats it? He'll never improve on the bike with that attitude, can you imagine spannering for this guy, why ....... bother he isn't going to give you 100% so whats the point.

This is a quote from Andrea Dosoli the EFI technician at Kawasaki

Who do you think is the greatest Grand Prix rider of all time and why?

It seems too easy to say Valentino Rossi but honestly, it is difficult for me to say anyone else. He has stunned me many times: being able to overcome problems and resolve critical situations at the very last moment. I really admire him from the technical side but also from the charge that he transmits to his team. With his attitude, Rossi encourages and creates a positive team spirit and that helps to get an optimal result on the track. There are many talented riders who collapse at the first sight of a problem. Rossi pulls everybody together instead.

Brilliant summary of what Marco is not.

"We always had a motto: 'Never, ever, give up,'" Colin Stoner

I'm disappointed in Marco's comments. I am a fan of his, so reading this is a bitter pill. My “bias” side wants to defend his comments and say, well the guy should say something about the machine if he feels its terrible or he is not getting the support to be competitive. But on the other hand, there are some things that are inappropriate to admit in public—to say he will not try for lower positions is disrespectful to the sport and the other competitors. This decreases the integrity of the sport. Suppose you are one of those that are fighting for a position and you get ahead of Melandri, can you fully rely on the fact that you beat him? That’s almost like taking a dive in a match. Melandri should not have said that at all, and unfortunately, the cat is out of the bag and he cannot take it back. I do think being honest about your machine is fair game to a degree, but never, do you ever, as a competitor say you're not going to try as hard as you can. The moment you think and say it, you’ve already lost. I’m sure it’s a human emotion and naturally those feeling emerge when frustration sets in, but you never admit it publicly. I feel bummed out, he is one of my favorites.

I think Marco's shooting himself in the foot. HONDA will get there .... sorted sooner or later and bad mouthing-making excuses is not going to do his future any good. Does he deserve a factory DUCATI ride???? I dont know,.............
His one-handed salute smoking the rear tyre on his way to winnig Philip Is last year was the last time #33 impressed me

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crvlvr @ Jul 6 2007, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When Rossi lost the first race to the Ducati this year, he almost said, "my bike was not as fast the Ducati.." but then he quickly changed it to ".. not as fast as the "other " bike".

Actually in all his Italian interviews that I've heard Vale's had no problem saying the ducati went faster. It is, after all, the truth. He's praised the Ducati all the way to heaven this season. He is after all Italian and he's pretty fond of them though that doesn't mean he'll give them an easy time on track. He doesn't refrain from praising other bikes or riders he has respect for, and when his Yam isn't going well he doesn't mince words about it either. BUT I've never heard him say 'they'. He always says 'we', when he refers to his team and crew. He considers himself to be part of the package and if that package is not perfect then he still doesn't hesitate to say 'we'. I think that makes a huge difference and also explains why his crew are so loyal and break their backs for him every race weekend.

As for Marco, he's an incredibly moody guy. He has these mega highs and the mega lows to match them. He's a great rider and certainly not riding up to his potential this season. You've also got to understand that he's very susceptible to words and mind games and media pressure. He's not made of the sterner stuff Rossi's made of (although I do suspect the media speculation about Vale's private life lately hasn't exactly contributed to peace of mind). Add to it that the Italian press tend to act as though the sun shines out of Vale's a$$ while everyone else gets second-rated, and Marco's sense of inferiority just grows. He does badly, they bad mouth him, he does worse. It's a vicious circle he needs to break out of. I think his riding is there but mentally he's not as strong as he needs to be. He's also very bitter Gresini didn't let him go last year. He tried to put a brave face on it at the beginning but it must be a hell of a bitter pill to swallow seeing Casey on the Ducati which can get nothing wrong this season when he's stuck on a satellite honda which hasn't had any new bits for ages. I'm not trying to justify him, but he's just human after all.