Gibernau to test for Ducati!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jun 12 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why does someone testing the Ducati have to say anything about Stoner or Melandri?

Rossi has 3 test riders working at adapting the Yamaha to the Bridgestones - can't Rossi develop a bike?

It is like Ducati is the only team that uses test riders by the comments that go up about these topics. What is wrong with trying to use someone who can lap close to the pace of the race riders? Why did Okada test the pnematic engine for Honda at the last round - what can't Dani or Nicky develop a bike?

Grow up for F sake!

Since Stoner is so far up his own arse... he's only looking to get the bike working individually.

Melandri doesn't have a ...... clue, and Stoner doesn't care.

Maybe they need someone like Sete to make some small overall improvements to the bike, which is better than nothing.

Rather seem him working on the Suzuki myself replacing Capper for the short term. Good to see him back though in any form testing or whatever

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 12 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Gibbers is being primed for a OJ style comebackSimpson??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jun 12 2008, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Simpson??
I thought the same thing. Bring back The Juice...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 12 2008, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> I thought the same thing. Bring back The Juice...

Thats what i thought he meant! He's gonna kill a white girl??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 12 2008, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>it just looks like you always want to stir up .... with peeps who support rossi and that has .... all to do with this thread imho.
Yeah, whats up with TP700, Geez, just a .... stir with peeps who support <strike>stoner</strike> rossi.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 12 2008, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Since Stoner is so far up his own arse... he's only looking to get the bike working individually.

Maybe it's pinky or cscvawmdwgetcetc

I would love to see Marco do well on the duc but he has been soooo bad on it. He has had some breif flashes of hope but the dude is not going to survive unless someone like Sete can help. Stoner is then man right now so what are you going to do if your in his position, help your teammate win? Hell No! Sete is very good and maybe this time off has given him a renewed sence of competition. I hope so cause so far Stoner is the only one to get the Duc to win.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 12 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, whats up with TP700, Geez, just a .... stir with peeps who support <strike>stoner</strike> rossi.
shut up jumkie, im being nice to farmboy aint i ? give me some sport

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 12 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Since Stoner is so far up his own arse... he's only looking to get the bike working individually.


Um, well, correct me if I am wrong but isn't his job to worry about himself and therefore get the bike set-up to suit his requirements and style?

You can bet any level of money you want that when VR, DP etc are out riding their bike to obtain set-up they could not even care about their fellow 'team' riders, all they care about is themselves which at this level is expected.






Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 13 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Um, well, correct me if I am wrong but isn't his job to worry about himself and therefore get the bike set-up to suit his requirements and style?

You can bet any level of money you want that when VR, DP etc are out riding their bike to obtain set-up they could not even care about their fellow 'team' riders, all they care about is themselves which at this level is expected.






Garry
damn right, there all after one thing, points. if anything they will want to beat there team mate rather than help them to much i would have thought.

Interview with Sete on the topic, link (in Spanish)

The header says, he will decide after the test if his status remains "retired" or not. The rest ... can't bother translating now, learn Spanish if you want to know what he says!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 13 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Um, well, correct me if I am wrong but isn't his job to worry about himself and therefore get the bike set-up to suit his requirements and style?

Yea primarily, but what about making the bike better overall?
Its a team sport and theres a constructors championship to be won.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 13 2008, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You can bet any level of money you want that when VR, DP etc are out riding their bike to obtain set-up they could not even care about their fellow 'team' riders, all they care about is themselves which at this level is expected.

I think Rossi and Colin had a really good relationship, how it should be really. I remember even Rossi taking colins setup and vice versa... There was no bad feeling.

Also the development thats been done on the yamaha has improved it for everybody as the results show, not just Rossi.

Ducati and Honda have failed badly with team relations.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jun 12 2008, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Autorsport link

Doesn't say much in favour of Stoner and Melandri's development skills.
That's because, frankly, they have none.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jun 12 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Found this link: http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new...idgestones.html

About the comment that is flamming. What about the first comment on the thread by the thread starter. I am sick of that .....
Then LEAVE. Buh-bye...don't let the door hit you on the way out!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Jun 12 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What happens if he is instantly faster than Marco?
I reckon Melandri might be a little nervous about this news.
His being faster than Marco is sadly almost a given. Gib's been away a couple of years but I think he can deal with that bike better than Marco's been doing. Sad really as I'd so looked forward to seeing him do well on the Duc.

Gibernau (or any other occasional rider) can't really be testing to develop the bike, it would make little sense... But there could be one plausible objective: to ascertain whether the Ducati 800 is really so peculiar to ride that only Stoner can take it to the limit.

If Gibe happens to be faster than Melandri on the GP8, I have no doubt they'll invite Macho (and the others) to leave. The whole story reminds me of the time Cagiva invited Kenny Roberts to test their (apparently ......) bike.

What ever happened to the Bayliss and Biaggi thing early in the season when they were supposedly going to be called up to help with the Moto GP Ducati?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Jun 12 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe it's pinky or cscvawmdwgetcetc

what ever happened to cscvawnd or whatever it was called ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 13 2008, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yea primarily, but what about making the bike better overall?
Its a team sport and theres a constructors championship to be won.

Whilst his job is to win races and garner points, to do this he has to develop a bike that assists him in doing so, not his 'team mate' but himself. If he develops a bike that his 'team mate' can ride then so be it, but it is not his role as he must first and foremost look after himself.

The reason I have also put 'team mate' in the inverted commas is because at this level very few of these 'teams' are truly teams in terms of riders. Most of these guys may well get on at times socially but they all want to beat their 'team mates' behinds so bad as this is now a business and they should only care for themselves.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jun 13 2008, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Rossi and Colin had a really good relationship, how it should be really. I remember even Rossi taking colins setup and vice versa... There was no bad feeling.

Also the development thats been done on the yamaha has improved it for everybody as the results show, not just Rossi.

Ducati and Honda have failed badly with team relations.

I will be honest and say that it may well be true that VR and CE got on so well when in the same team , but I also have the opinion that this is because VR never saw CE as a threat to his reults but as a 'monkey' to use to test (no offence intended here). The difference being that (according to numerous written articles) when it was suggested that Yamaha employ CS, VR stopped it happenning and allegedly made similar comments with Jorge, but Yamaha did not listen to those.

I actually have no problem with a #1 team rider having a say in who their #2 rider is but no doubt they do not want someone that they feel may well take points from them and lets be honest, CE was never going to take points from VR.

There is no saying that a rider must dislike their 'teammate' either and I have heard no reports regarding MM and CS but out on the track they 'hate' (but still respect) one another (in sporting terms).





Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 13 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Gibernau (or any other occasional rider) can't really be testing to develop the bike, it would make little sense... But there could be one plausible objective: to ascertain whether the Ducati 800 is really so peculiar to ride that only Stoner can take it to the limit.

If Gibe happens to be faster than Melandri on the GP8, I have no doubt they'll invite Macho (and the others) to leave. The whole story reminds me of the time Cagiva invited Kenny Roberts to test their (apparently ......) bike.

Spot on.

For someone who hardly posts, it is always well worth the wait.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Gibernau (or any other occasional rider) can't really be testing to develop the bike, it would make little sense... But there could be one plausible objective: to ascertain whether the Ducati 800 is really so peculiar to ride that only Stoner can take it to the limit.

If Gibe happens to be faster than Melandri on the GP8, I have no doubt they'll invite Macho (and the others) to leave. The whole story reminds me of the time Cagiva invited Kenny Roberts to test their (apparently ......) bike.


Thank you. A voice of reason.

Everybody else can stop posting now.