Edwards signs with Tech 3 for 2010

Edwards signs with Tech 3 for 2010.
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One down one to go

Damn, well it certianly does get interesting now. It sounds like Yamaha "forsees" Spies in MotoGP next year if the WSBK title is won.

Though Edwards is staying with the same team, the crucial detail here is the subtle change in his position. If Edwards has a contract from Poncharal rather than Yamaha Japan, then he no longer occupies the seat that Yamaha Japan has inside the Tech 3 team, but has been shifted sideways into James Toseland's seat.

Oh Snap, Toseland is beig replaced not by Spies, but Edwards. That has to sting a little considering their relationship.

David Emmet's theory that Spies has a seat in Motogp if he wins the WSBK title makes sense. After this weekend in Germany, the title picture is markedly changed. I'm with Emmet that Yamaha is now making preparations to honor their supposed agreement with Spies. The big question will be....
How long will it take for Yamaha to pull the trigger and announce their reserved seat filler @ Tech 3.

Should Spies not win the championship, do Yamaha really want their factory place in the Tech 3 team held by Toni Elias?

This won't be a popular view with the yanks on here I know but how many more 6th places will we have to watch before this guy loses his seat? This ride should have gone to someone who can actually use it to learn and grow like Aleix Espargaro ar another youngster who doesn't have shitload of $$$ in the bank already. Edwards doesn't want to risk his bejewelled arse on the track getting results and why should he as the "Angel of MotoGP Contracts" always seems to turn up at this time of year - amazing really!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lad @ Sep 11 2009, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This won't be a popular view with the yanks on here I know but how many more 6th places will we have to watch before this guy loses his seat? This ride should have gone to someone who can actually use it to learn and grow like Aleix Espargaro ar another youngster who doesn't have shitload of $$$ in the bank already. Edwards doesn't want to risk his bejewelled arse on the track getting results and why should he as the "Angel of MotoGP Contracts" always seems to turn up at this time of year - amazing really!

It's quite easy really. Look at the rookies that arrive over the years and you will see that very few are doing as good as Edwards does, in fact most are not even close to his performance before they are kicked out again. Those few that succeed beyond Edwards level are usually title challengers as soon as their contract are written (Lorenzo, Pedrosa...)
I think Yamaha got into problems this year as they had to secure Spies and they wanted Lorenzo to stay. With Rossi on a two year contract that potentially blocked three out of four seats in the two teams.
By Rossi's recommendation I'm sure they sniffed at Simoncelli amongst others but the waited for the situation to clear up and the interesting riders went elsewhere.
Besides, the really interesting riders are usually doing at lot better than Espargaro in their first entry. Hell, even JT did a lot better and that's the one leaving the team. Btw didn't he do a 6th at his debut in quatar? Ah, irony.

I suppose you have some good points here Babel - perhaps it's his interviews before the race where he states something similar to "I'll be looking to stay with the front guys and hoping for a win" that ..... me up the wall. The thing is the rookies may not have the same results but they are just that - ROOKIES - not a guy that has had his arse parked on a motgp bike since way back when Aprilia had the cube. I just find it hard to stomach colin-oscapy tootling around mid pack his whole grand prix career and keeps getting the nod for it...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lad @ Sep 11 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I suppose you have some good points here Babel - perhaps it's his interviews before the race where he states something similar to "I'll be looking to stay with the front guys and hoping for a win" that ..... me up the wall. The thing is the rookies may not have the same results but they are just that - ROOKIES - not a guy that has had his arse parked on a motgp bike since way back when Aprilia had the cube. I just find it hard to stomach colin-oscapy tootling around mid pack his whole grand prix career and keeps getting the nod for it...


There is so much more involved with 2nd tier teams than race wins. Sure they would like to have the next super star rider to put their brand on the podium but these rookies are a huge risk. Look at Toes; Multi time WSB champ giving it his all no doubt, and barely a mid packer in this class. Colin and Cappers both are cagey vets who are worth their weight for some teams. I would say Ponch is appreciative of how Colin has helped developed their racing platform. That goes abit further than a finicky 250 Euro midget looking to climb the ladder as fast as he can. Colin does not repeatedly wad up hardware either. He offers an experienced, steady hand with a cool head. The ideal combo for Tech 3 would be a vet and a rookie up and comer (like they thought Toes was).

I think Suzuk is glad to have Cappers but is proly, Like Tech 3, on the look for the right new guy if they can get them, otherwise stick with a solid vet and try to move forward without taking a huge step back or loosing the way developmentally.

Edwards is battling Dovi for 4th (A factory effort) and just outside the Super 4; So he is near best of the rest and may yet end up that way (also beating other factory efforts.

You comments reveal a lack of insight into the sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 9 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Should Spies not win the championship, do Yamaha really want their factory place in the Tech 3 team held by Toni Elias?

Errrrrrrrrrrr, No.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick.. Rossi.. 46 No1... @ Sep 11 2009, 11:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Errrrrrrrrrrr, No.
I wouldn't think so either but it appears that's what's left if Spies doesn't win the title this year. Strange that Yamaha requested Edwards be put in the satellite seat at Tech 3 before knowing with any certainly the future of Spies. I can't imagine Elias being any better at development than Edwards and now it appears Yamaha could well be stuck with it unless a) Spies wins the title and this discussion is all for naught or Yamaha have a clause with Edwards/Poncheral that states should Spies not come over, Edwards will retain his factory seat.

Or maybe they will just keep JT and keep Dorna happy with a Brit on the starting grid?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lad @ Sep 11 2009, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I suppose you have some good points here Babel - perhaps it's his interviews before the race where he states something similar to "I'll be looking to stay with the front guys and hoping for a win" that ..... me up the wall. The thing is the rookies may not have the same results but they are just that - ROOKIES - not a guy that has had his arse parked on a motgp bike since way back when Aprilia had the cube. I just find it hard to stomach colin-oscapy tootling around mid pack his whole grand prix career and keeps getting the nod for it...
WTF - are you an agist crack addict laddy-boy? Don't really need to reply to your uber-dense post... I'll just say I agree with what he said below...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bojuhl @ Sep 11 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is so much more involved with 2nd tier teams than race wins. Sure they would like to have the next super star rider to put their brand on the podium but these rookies are a huge risk. Look at Toes; Multi time WSB champ giving it his all no doubt, and barely a mid packer in this class. Colin and Cappers both are cagey vets who are worth their weight for some teams. I would say Ponch is appreciative of how Colin has helped developed their racing platform. That goes abit further than a finicky 250 Euro midget looking to climb the ladder as fast as he can. Colin does not repeatedly wad up hardware either. He offers an experienced, steady hand with a cool head. The ideal combo for Tech 3 would be a vet and a rookie up and comer (like they thought Toes was).

I think Suzuk is glad to have Cappers but is proly, Like Tech 3, on the look for the right new guy if they can get them, otherwise stick with a solid vet and try to move forward without taking a huge step back or loosing the way developmentally.

Edwards is battling Dovi for 4th (A factory effort) and just outside the Super 4; So he is near best of the rest and may yet end up that way (also beating other factory efforts.

You comments reveal a lack of insight into the sport.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 11 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't think so either but it appears that's what's left if Spies doesn't win the title this year. Strange that Yamaha requested Edwards be put in the satellite seat at Tech 3 before knowing with any certainly the future of Spies. I can't imagine Elias being any better at development than Edwards and now it appears Yamaha could well be stuck with it unless a) Spies wins the title and this discussion is all for naught or Yamaha have a clause with Edwards/Poncheral that states should Spies not come over, Edwards will retain his factory seat.I'm sure Edwards would be the "#1" over Toni. It's also possible that there won't be a "factory Tech3 seat" next season, as per Poncheral. It's also unclear what being in the factory seat means beyond who's writing the checks.

The situation might be that if Spies comes yamaha writes the checks, and if not Tech3 (or Dorna) writes them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 11 2009, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Strange that Yamaha requested Edwards be put in the satellite seat at Tech 3 before knowing with any certainly the future of Spies. I can't imagine Elias being any better at development than Edwards and now it appears Yamaha could well be stuck with it...
Oost... WTF? If Spies comes he's the man development wise. If not... its still Colie no matter who's writing the cheques...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Sep 11 2009, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oost... WTF? If Spies comes he's the man development wise. If not... its still Colie no matter who's writing the cheques...
I would think so, I just find it odd that Yamaha requested that Poncheral sign him rather than Yamaha doing it themselves. If Spies doesn't win, I'll be interested to see what plays out in that garage.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 12 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would think so, I just find it odd that Yamaha requested that Poncheral sign him rather than Yamaha doing it themselves. If Spies doesn't win, I'll be interested to see what plays out in that garage.
Sorry man - clarification... If Spies doesn't win ______________ ... what WSBK?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Sep 11 2009, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry man - clarification... If Spies doesn't win ______________ ... what WSBK?
Yeah, sorry. There have been a few articles out there indicating that there is a clause in Spies's original contract stipulating that should he win the SBK title in his rookie year then he gets to go to MotoGP in 2010. A lot of people are looking at the wording in the Yamaha press release, where they say they "foresee" Spies staying in WSBK in 2010 and moving to MotoGP in 2011.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 11 2009, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, sorry. There have been a few articles out there indicating that there is a clause in Spies's original contract stipulating that should he win the SBK title in his rookie year then he gets to go to MotoGP in 2010. A lot of people are looking at the wording in the Yamaha press release, where they say they "foresee" Spies staying in WSBK in 2010 and moving to MotoGP in 2011.
Mamola seems to think its MotoGP for Ben. He just wishes it weren't at the expense of other riders.