EBoz out in 09

EBOZ says he is going to Brazil to run a Mango farm,is that not a hoot.Raised by hippie parents,they are free spirited.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 27 2008, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's been asked before, how much green do the Bostroms smoke?

surely he will have a few acres under plantation in the middle of his mango orchard ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 27 2008, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's been asked before, how much green do the Bostroms smoke?
Isn't the there an elder brother Tory who was supposedly the most talented on the dirt but went whacko and disappeared to live like a hermit in a cabin somewhere - or have I merely imagined it?

Both Boz Brothers claim their oldest bro had the most natural talent but just wanted to do his own thing.
I don't have any animosity towards them but I am glad to see one of them is finally gone.
I've looked at them for years and it pisses me off that 2 guys with so much talent do nothing with the great opportunities they are given.
If you're heart is not in it than move over and let some young kid take your spot.
The problem with my logic is AMA teams always seem to fill their vacated seats with more
hodgson errrrrrrr I mean old hasbeen riders.
Remember this year when some journalist covering an AMA race pointed out that ten years ago
the same guys were racing and Jamie Hacking got all pissed off.
The journalist was dead on and that is one of the reasons the AMA is crap

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Oct 28 2008, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Both Boz Brothers claim their oldest bro had the most natural talent but just wanted to do his own thing.
I don't have any animosity towards them but I am glad to see one of them is finally gone.
I've looked at them for years and it pisses me off that 2 guys with so much talent do nothing with the great opportunities they are given.
If you're heart is not in it than move over and let some young kid take your spot.
The problem with my logic is AMA teams always seem to fill their vacated seats with more
hodgson errrrrrrr I mean old hasbeen riders.
Remember this year when some journalist covering an AMA race pointed out that ten years ago
the same guys were racing and Jamie Hacking got all pissed off.
The journalist was dead on and that is one of the reasons the AMA is crap
I can sympathize with your viewpoint, after all he's hardly set the paddock alight stateside. That said the Parts Unlimited Ducati Austin ride was not competitive as the rules at the time did not favour the 999 twin, whilst by the time he arrived at Honda America, the factory support that had boosted the season of Zemke had evaporated at the end of '06. I guarantee that if Hodgson had landed Haga's ride at Xerox Ducati he's have probably bagged the WSB title, at the very least a championship contender.

The problem with your AMA series is that for many going into it it's a fast tack to career oblivion/obscurity - (or it certainly is set to be now) and the easiest way to consign yourself as an older rider to the where are they now files albeit on a big fat retirement plan.

One of the reasons that Nicky's World Championship was so valuable, and why I was so pissed that Rizla Suzuki didn't sign Spies is because it does and always has historically produced massively talented riders, (not sure about the hype surrounding Herrin), and I think the championship and circuits are a lot harder than us European's give credit to. The percentage of 'also rans' is frustratingly high - and the disparities/inequities in machinery frustratingly higher than most domestic championships - the two horse race between the Blimpie Makita Rockstar Yoshi .....blah blah Suzuki's has become absurd. Perhaps the 'two horsepower' races proposed for next year will tighten things up a bit.

Realistically, Hodgson probably needed a competitive ride in BSB, where he could have asserted himself again paving the way for a return to WSB.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 28 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm a strong believer in most of the factory guys on the Superbike grid as well as Herrin, BBoz and Jake Zemke. The problem with the series is the gap between Suzuki and everyone else. A combination of exploited loopholes (remember Suzuki's TC?), lack of qualified engineers (American Honda's fall from grace following HRC's departure) and inability to maintain a set of rules for more than two years at a time/rules that coincide with WSBK and BSB (this is why Ducati left Superbike racing in the states).

If the series and manufacturers could get their .... together and address these problems, we could regularly see Tommy Hayden, Jamie Hacking, Neil Hodgson, Ben Bostrom, Roger Hayden and others winning Superbike races. It also wouldn't hurt that Mladin and Spies will be gone.


First let me say that im not a fan of Yoshimura Suzuki but i give credit where credit is due.Although i think the Suzuki is a little better bike,i believe the BIG difference was the riders and team continuity.The TC thing was, as you say, a loophole, but it was not illegal.Thats inituative and out of the box thinking and thats what good teams do.Remember,the spankings only got worse when TC was alllowed.The last 4 years was a combination of things that caused a perfect storm for lousy competition.Honda was more than a little bit competitive till Honda USA quit leasing the bikes from HRC.Find the ....... that made that decision and can his ... today.Duhamel just got old in this time frame and has nothing left.Kawasaki and Yamaha were just making their way back to Superbike and it takes time to catch up to a team that has been running like a watch forever.Throw in a little,or a lot of AMA ineptitude and Viola,you have a ...... up series.Now Spies is gone but Mladin is still around,he said he wouldnt race 600 Superbike.Thats changed and i expect him to be around next year.Now,we will have one rider dashing off into the sunset instead of 2 and the championship will be decided with 5 races to go.The new Superbike is a Superstock machine,they will by most standards be equal but i truly believe the racing will not be.Remember what Spies did when he was in Superstock,it will be the same scenario with Mladin dominating and everyone will be talking about the good ole days when Spies and Mladin used to split the wins and had a damn good title battle.Until the next Hayden or Spies comes along or Mladin just gets to damn old to ride,we are looking at the same book,different chapter.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 28 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spot on Povol. Except that TC was illegal, the AMA just decided to legalize it because it was too difficult to police. It makes life easier for Yoshi to open a gap in TV development when you've been illegally using it for the majority of a season and who knows for how long before that.
The way Suzuki did it was not illegal and that is why they were never punished.Everyone down to novice fan could hear what was going on with the Suzuki's.The rule stated that TC was illegal using wheel sensors,Suzuki did it in the mapping without using wheel sensors,so according to the rule book,it was fine.Like i said,out of the box thinking,pushing the limit,finding rules that are worded wrong and manipulating them,is what a good team does.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 29 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was under the impression that Suzuki were using wheel sensors. I must have misread.
I dug up this quote from Houseworth,

Tom Houseworth, crew chief for Yoshimura Suzuki’s Ben Spies: “I was a little surprised that the AMA did it so quick, and it’s kind of weird they did it now, because truthfully, we can’t put traction control on the bike right now because we don’t have it. We can’t just mount up a front-wheel speed sensor and do it the traditional way—I don’t think anyone has it. If they do, good on them, but we’re just doing electronically the same thing that your Audi, your Lexus, or any of those things have.



“Only system I’ve been working on is trying to make sure Ben happy and the bikes the way he wants it. I’m sure you’ve heard our bikes going around the track and it kills the ignition a bit, but the rules state you can’t have traction control with the front-wheel sensor and we didn’t, and we don’t. And if we do it in the future, it’s going to be a while. We’d have to test at pretty much every track and get data at every track to make the stuff work. And for now, the bikes as pretty strong as they are.”

There were rumours flying around mid year that Mladin was coming home (to Australia) to run the Australian Superbike series.
Well that ain't happening. The series is being run by a company call Frontline Media Group. They run the MX series and do a couple of dirt bike mags among other things.
So the incentive to come home to run Aus SBK is no longer there.

As far as competing in AMA or coming home to run his import business or go visit Eric in South America is anyone's guess ATM.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Corr @ Oct 31 2008, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There were rumours flying around mid year that Mladin was coming home (to Australia) to run the Australian Superbike series.
Well that ain't happening. The series is being run by a company call Frontline Media Group. They run the MX series and do a couple of dirt bike mags among other things.
So the incentive to come home to run Aus SBK is no longer there.

As far as competing in AMA or coming home to run his import business or go visit Eric in South America is anyone's guess ATM.

I say he runs AMA now that DMG has folded on their ridiculous plans to run 600's as the main attraction.He will do it to spite DMG just to show them that he can make that series boring on cookie cutter bikes.What will be interesting is to see how the new R1 with the big bang engine does against the coventional inline 4's.Could that turn the tables on Suzuki or is it a marketing ploy when it come to selling road bikes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uG2PASKepw

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 31 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Could you possibly imagine Mladin hanging out with EBoz on a mango farm in Brazil? That man hates the Bostroms more than he hates Roger Edmundson and the AMA put together.
Being Matt, he probably hates mangos too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Oct 31 2008, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Being Matt, he probably hates mangos too.

and south america