Did Anyone See A Formal Release?

Austin

Joined Mar 2005

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Woody Creek

Discussion Starter
• Nov 9, 2005

• #1

All I had heard about Casey Stoner and Carlos Checa riding for Pons Honda were rumors that looked very promising. I hadn't seen anything on www.crash.net, www.superbikeplanet.com or www.motogp.com that mentioned anything about them signing. I'm looking at all the debuts today and to my surprise I see Stoner and Checa out riding the RC211V. Just wondering if anyone saw that. I'll post the results of todays times...

1. Nicky Hayden, Honda - 1'34.4 / 53 laps
2. Marco Melandri, Honda - 1'34.7 / 8
3. John Hopkins, Suzuki - 1'34.9
4. Casey Stoner, Honda - 1'35.0 / 69
5. Carlos Checa, Honda - 1'35.1 / 33
6. Sete Gibernau, Ducati - 1'35.2 / 32
7. Daniel Pedrosa, Honda - 1'35.5 / 62
8. Toni Elías, Honda - 1'35.7 / 34
9. James Ellison, Ducati - 1'35.7 / 74
10. Roberto Rolfo, Ducati - 1'35.7 / 55
11. Nobuatsu Aoki, Suzuki - 1'35.8 / 41
12. Olivier Jacque, Kawasaki - 1'35.9 / 32
13. Chris Vermeulen, Suzuki - 1'36.3
14. Randy De Puniet, Kawasaki - 1'36.5 / 58
15. Loris Capirossi, Ducati - 1'36.8 / 17
16. Andrea Dovizioso, Honda - 1'39.5 / 27
17. Thomas Luthi, Honda - 1'44.2 / 27

 

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Dr Costa

Joined Mar 2005

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Lancashire

• Nov 9, 2005

• #2

Your close Ooost but our national bike news paper MCN,had it that Casey Stoner,who was apparently snatched from under Yamaha's nose ?and will partner Checa but the problem at the moment lies with the fact that after Honda have dumped biaggi, and that Camel may pull the plug with their sponsership after this incident,but could do a u turn yet ?

rumours, rumours !here's a link for the MCN view of the rider's for 2006 !

motogp rides for 2006 !?

 

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teomolca

Joined Jun 2005

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Valencia, Spain

• Nov 9, 2005

• #3

Stoner's deal is done, here's a link Stoner @ Pons

He's signed for 3 years, now Pons need to fix the sponsor problem, either make Camel stay or find someone else who'll pay 4€ million.

Checa has also signed, although there's an option to dump him in case Pons had to stick with Camel and Biaggi.

 

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Marbles

Joined Aug 2005

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• Nov 9, 2005

• #4

Wow Stoners time looks pretty good!!

Whats Luthi riding a 250 if so who for????

 

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RallyeRon

Joined May 2005

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• Nov 10, 2005

• #5

Interesting stuff Guys!

So Stoner is on a Pons RCV along with Checa.

Honda are really putting their faith in young blood arent they?!! Its good to see and it brings new life to motogp.

 

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frosty58

Joined Sep 2005

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washington DC, USA

• Nov 10, 2005

• #6

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Nov 10 2005, 06:14 AM)<div class='quotemain'>Honda are really putting their faith in young blood arent they?!! <div align="right<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they always have for the most part. what the hell is yamaha doin. no youngins at all. they better get on it ! rossi ain't gonna stick around for ever.

 

Austin

Joined Mar 2005

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Woody Creek

Discussion Starter
• Nov 10, 2005

• #7

They're digging their own grave just as they did since the early 90's. In the early 90's they had Rainey and that was good enough for them, they were winning championships and didn't have to worry about finding the next rider to be heir to the throne. We all know Wayne's career ended abruptly and Yamaha were left with their thumbs up their ..... for 10 years. The same thing will happen when Rossi leaves. Yamaha are too busy celebrating all the titles they're winning to search for their next heir to the throne and when Rossi leaves it will be another 10 years before they find someone to save them.

 

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frosty58

Joined Sep 2005

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washington DC, USA

• Nov 11, 2005

• #8

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Nov 10 2005, 01:33 PM)<div class='quotemain'>They're digging their own grave just as they did since the early 90's.  In the early 90's they had Rainey and that was good enough for them, they were winning championships and didn't have to worry about finding the next rider to be heir to the throne.  We all know Wayne's career ended abruptly and Yamaha were left with their thumbs up their ..... for 10 years.  The same thing will happen when Rossi leaves.  Yamaha are too busy celebrating all the titles they're winning to search for their next heir to the throne and when Rossi leaves it will be another 10 years before they find someone to save them.
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ain't that the truth!!!!!!

 

Austin

Joined Mar 2005

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Woody Creek

Discussion Starter
• Nov 11, 2005

• #9

Just to reply to my own post I just read that there is no official lineup for Honda Pons in 2006 despite the fact that Checa and Stoner have both signed.

 

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GeNeRaL

Joined Jul 2005

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Connecticut, USA

• Nov 17, 2005

• #10

So at this point, where are the teams/riders/sponsors at?

By Rider - Team - Sponsor, can someone list whats final and whats left? whos left? whos unsigned, what are possable teams/sponsors, etc?

 

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Captain Snow

Joined Aug 2005

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USA

• Nov 17, 2005

• #11

(Alice??) Yamaha - Rossi & Edwards
Repsol Honda - Hayden & Pedrosa
Fortuna Honda - Melandri & Elias
Pons Honda - Checa & Stoner (Camel may be the sponsor or not)
Konica Minolta Honda - Tamada
Malboro Ducati - Capirossi & Gibernau
D'Antin Ducati - Ellison & either Cardoso or Rolfo
Kawasaki - Nakano & de Puniet
Suzuki - Hopkins & Vermeulen (Some rumors say Rizla may sponsor)
Roberts Honda - KrJr latest rumor says he is with Biaggi
(Blata?) WCM - ?? & ?? Who will they run and with what?
Tech 3 (Yamaha?) - ?? & ?? No sponsor leaves them with no riders. Stoner was supposed to come here but after no sponsor he went to Pons. Ironically enough he has no sponsor (for now) too.

 

Austin

Joined Mar 2005

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Woody Creek

Discussion Starter
• Nov 17, 2005

• #12

Should the Tech 3 team exist next season I've heard they have big interest in Rolfo. I also am not sure if the Biaggi to KR will work out, I see too much trouble with HRC's feelings towards the Roman and them supplying powerplants to KR, I forsee a single man team on Michelin rubber fielding KRjr.

 

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frosty58

Joined Sep 2005

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washington DC, USA

• Nov 17, 2005

• #13

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Nov 17 2005, 01:50 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Should the Tech 3 team exist next season I've heard they have big interest in Rolfo.  I also am not sure if the Biaggi to KR will work out, I see too much trouble with HRC's feelings towards the Roman and them supplying powerplants to KR, I forsee a single man team on Michelin rubber fielding KRjr.
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i think so to. i read somewhere that big kenny would'nt be able to put up with max's ........ anyway. i think his gp career is nearly over. but ya never know!

 

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GeNeRaL

Joined Jul 2005

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Connecticut, USA

• Nov 17, 2005

• #14

perfect, exactly what i was lookin for!, thanks!

 

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DRILL

Joined Jun 2005

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• Nov 18, 2005

• #15

Bin a coupla reports of WCM securing KTM motors.

 

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frosty58

Joined Sep 2005

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washington DC, USA

• Nov 18, 2005

• #16

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL666 @ Nov 18 2005, 12:55 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Bin a coupla reports of WCM securing KTM motors.
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????!!! i can't see that ! i don't think ktm will get involved with the big class until the new regs in 07 at the very earliest. if ever again.

 

Austin

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Woody Creek

Discussion Starter
• Nov 18, 2005

• #17

I've heard the same things. I would assume they are just leftovers from the Team KR KTM project. I can't see KTM putting anymore money into a formula that will expire after this season after all the fuss they made about funding in 2005. Even 2005 spec KTM V4s would be better than what Peter Clifford can produce in house.