CRY me a river

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 21 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very valid point.
Two completely different animals here man.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 21 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Two completely different animals here man.
I would disagree. A smug remark about how it wouldn't be any fun to race Stoner on the same bike while in his first season on a new tire because of Stoner's success with it in the previous season? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Good for a quote, and as I've said before, he's an entertainer; but there isn't much to it other than that, entertainment.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 21 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would disagree. A smug remark about how it wouldn't be any fun to race Stoner on the same bike while in his first season on a new tire because of Stoner's success with it in the previous season? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Good for a quote, and as I've said before, he's an entertainer; but there isn't much to it other than that, entertainment.

He's a RACER first brother...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:06 AM)
Rossi should have signed with Ducati while he had the chance. HE says it wouldn't be any fun beating stoner with his bike. Oh so ROssi your such a bad ... I guess you didn't need his bridgestones either! LOL.

Rock...if you bought tires and the craps fell apart while you were riding...2 years in row at that...would YOU buy those tires again?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 21 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He's a RACER first brother...
No denying that. But there is nothing to his quote other than entertainment value.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 21 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rock...if you bought tires and the craps fell apart while you were riding...2 years in row at that...would YOU buy those tires again?
No but the decision isn't up to Valentino. He can certainly make his wishes known or he can ride for a team that uses the tire he wants, but the rider does not decide what tires to run. He forced the issue with his bike being Bridgestone shod and I would be surprised if there was not some sort of breach of contract between Yamaha and Michelin for doing so.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 21 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No but the decision isn't up to Valentino. He can certainly make his wishes known or he can ride for a team that uses the tire he wants, but the rider does not decide what tires to run. He forced the issue with his bike being Bridgestone shod and I would be surprised if there was not some sort of breach of contract between Yamaha and Michelin for doing so.

Oh well, i don't give a .... about tires...i care about riders, bikes, and racing....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 21 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh well, i don't give a .... about tires...i care about riders, bikes, and racing....
Now. You don't give a .... about tires now. The joys of not having to deal with Michelin anymore.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 21 2008, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would disagree. A smug remark about how it wouldn't be any fun to race Stoner on the same bike while in his first season on a new tire because of Stoner's success with it in the previous season? Can't have your cake and eat it too. Good for a quote, and as I've said before, he's an entertainer; but there isn't much to it other than that, entertainment.
I hear you for sure man, a cocky comment to say the least.
But I think the tire situation was different though and revolved less around overconfidence but instead out of necessity to be able to race up front at all.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 21 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now. You don't give a .... about tires now. The joys of not having to deal with Michelin anymore.

No it means i've NEVER cared about tires EVER...i've NEVER bought tires cause they were used in GP..or bought tires cause Lawson used them, or Spencer, Doohan, or Rossi, or Nick, or Stoner, or any of them....... i'd rather have a controlled tire..... anyone who says otherwise, is lying and full of ....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 21 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I hear you for sure man, a cocky comment to say the least.
But I think the tire situation was different though and revolved less around overconfidence but instead out of necessity to be able to race up front at all.
That was my point, sorry so roundabout.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No it means i've NEVER cared about tires EVER...i've NEVER bought tires cause they were used in GP..or bought tires cause Lawson used them, or Spencer, Doohan, or Rossi, or Nick, or Stoner, or any of them....... i'd rather have a controlled tire..... anyone who says otherwise, is lying and full of ....
Oh no I'm not talking about for personal use, I'm saying as an issue in GP.

Michelin tyres have been having major problems across many sports alately, not just moto gp. The tyre situation last year was poor it saw the likes of many top riders finding it nearly impossible to keep up with those who were bridgestone shon. Rossi's decission to switch from michelins to bridgestones was gutsy but blatently the most logical way to go if he was to stand any chance of fighting for another championship. Did anyone else notice how shredded rossi's bridgestones were at laguna the other day ?? they were shredded on the left hand side, could you imagine if they were michellins ?? it would be like riding on ice.... using tyres made from ice...


Remember this statement!... Bridgestone will be the sole provider either next year or the year after

LINK

Interview with Corriere dello Sport, Rossi dismissed Stoner's comments about the unfairness of certain moves.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>'On the podium he told me that he'd lost respect for me because he's been racing for many years and he doesn't remember ever having a race like that,' said the Italian.

'Well if he's been racing for many years, I've been racing for a lifetime and I don't know who he's been racing against but I remember all my races being like that and my rivals always fought that way.'

'He's used to the mentality of racing at the front with a four second advantage over the field but racing shoulder-to-shoulder brings other factors into play,' said Rossi.

'Hence this time I won and I'm happy.'

Thanks for the link curve

I got to say I'm starting to lose some respect for Stoner, If he wants the title again this year hes got to expect one hell of a battle from Rossi

Can you imagine if that was Barry Sheene that put out his hand to Stoner and Stoner blew him off, Barry would have punched him senseless around Parc Ferme

Stoner isn't the first person to ever complain about close racing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I'm also quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous - more than once he passed me on the inside and then altered his line. This is not a correct way to race.
I don't think Rossi was dangerous on Sunday, but I don't recall Elias being dangerous last year at Turkey either. Just another instance of people villainizing anyone who challenges Rossi.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 24 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner isn't the first person to ever complain about close racing.


I don't think Rossi was dangerous on Sunday, but I don't recall Elias being dangerous last year at Turkey either. Just another instance of people villainizing anyone who challenges Rossi.


For one I'm not villainizing Stoner or anyone else, There is nothing more I like to see than a battle between the two and I'm happy with whoever wins as long as I get to see a some decent racing.
I just thought his behaviour off the track was immature, rather than having a few quiet words with Rossi he blew him off then turned around to the BBC interviewer and started bitching, The comments he made didn't annoy, if he thought the racing was over the top well fair enough, but would he have said the same thing if he had won... like hell, he would have probably said something like, Rossi gave me his all today and I still beat him, I have now proved I like to battle and can race as hard as the next guy.
It was just the way he dealt with the situation acting like a stupid school girl

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jul 21 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What the .... curve? I'm not crying and also not worried at all about the results. Stoner will win the championship by the end of the year. Especially at some of these tracks where the Yam is going to struggle. You must have never taken reading comprehension in school cause I wasn't crying bout .....

I don't think The Yamaha struggled at tracks so much as the Bridgestones did. This one may go down to the wire.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 22 2008, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's really a shame, these people make rooting for Rossi impossible. I have always been a big admirer of Rossi, as a talent

This bit is pretty right ..... I find myself wondering about how different motogp might be without Rossi even these days ....... he's good but the leaning toward the "need to be needed", by the constant ........ that goes on, is way past tiring for me .... I kinda long for a new start ... thats why Haydens win was a breath of fresh air, and Stoners is just another level.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jul 22 2008, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't stand to listen to you dipshits spout off about how great he is and how second class all the others are. So .... off.

End rant.

Now come on Austin .... aren't you afraid of being branded a crybaby for speaking your mind!?? ....... well said!.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Jul 25 2008, 07:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The comments he made didn't annoy, if he thought the racing was over the top well fair enough, but would he have said the same thing if he had won... like hell,


How short are the Rossifan's memories

Have a look at Stoners comments after Catalunta 07 ........ then try and take it in ..... perhaps chant it for a few moments each ight and the memory might come back.

Don't you guys get it .... Stoner is not the type to sit back and say "yes sir, no sir, I worship the ground you walk on sir!" ......

The whole Rossi is god stuff that gets spouted here is pretty wacko .... but if you want to see real sadness check out some of the Rossi forums .......

Dont really know what's going on here, Im too high to read from the beginning,

but stoner needs a few more years under his belt to realize that you keep your mouth shut off the track and race hard on the track.
Im MX racing (at least in the states) a good pass and a hard block is considered good racing (not to be confused with dirty racing).
Had stoner one the race, do you think we'd have heard one word from casey about all of this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Jul 25 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dont really know what's going on here, Im too high to read from the beginning,

but stoner needs a few more years under his belt to realize that you keep your mouth shut off the track and race hard on the track.


Yeah but I like watching Pissed off young guys going fast on bikes .... not doped up "trip heroes" taking their lounge for a good ride .....

how can some of you guys find the keys to type ... and gee ... if you are high ..... isn't there better things to be doing

On your comment on whether Stoner would have said it if he won ..... well ask Curve about Catalunya 07 ..... his comments there brought on many a grand spatty from the Rossinfantry.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Jul 25 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im MX racing (at least in the states) a good pass and a hard block is considered good racing (not to be confused with dirty racing).

um ..... a block pass ..... in the corkscrew! ...... yes you are right it was a similar move it excepts Rossi was out of control for one thing ...... on the validity of using an mx style block pass at say 100km/h on a road circuit ....... you might be considered everso-slightly foolhardy I would think

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 24 2008, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but I like watching Pissed off young guys going fast on bikes ....
are we having gay tendencies