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Checa Invites Rossi to Race the WSBK

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Sic did with Aprilia...seems Rossi wants to and it would be a spectacle in Italy.



Carlos seems very confident that it will help Rossi and seeing as the Superbike was faster at a couple of tracks this year it may do just that.



The Rossi - Biaggi showdown would no doubt score higher viewership than the Flamini's have seen since the late 90's
 
Seeing as Valentino has no real political weight in this series and therfore no hope for gaining an unfair machine advantage I would expect Biaggi and Checa to have his measure in WSBK and beat him consistently.



However, on the Ducati superbike he may get a few more podiums than he has so far been able to achieve on the GP11.1
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Seeing as Valentino has no real political weight in this series and therfore no hope for gaining an unfair machine advantage I would expect Biaggi and Checa to have his measure in WSBK and beat him consistently.



However, on the Ducati superbike he may get a few more podiums than he has so far been able to achieve on the GP11.1
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Oh dear, oh dear..............................
 
Seeing as Valentino has no real political weight in this series and therfore no hope for gaining an unfair machine advantage I would expect Biaggi and Checa to have his measure in WSBK and beat him consistently.



However, on the Ducati superbike he may get a few more podiums than he has so far been able to achieve on the GP11.1
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wow
 
This kind of thing is excellent for Checa. He gets to challenge the GOAT to a race on the same equipment knowning that its unlikely to happen, and that if it did happen he would have the advantage of a years experience on the bike to help him. Rossi has everything to lose and pretty much nothing to gain, he is right to say no as he is above it. Besides the risk and organisation that it would require, Rossi would have to face Checa in his paddock, his team on his track and knowing that Checa and that bike have clicked all season. I still think if it did go ahead Rossi would be likely to win, but its just not worth it.
 
Seeing as Valentino has no real political weight in this series and therfore no hope for gaining an unfair machine advantage I would expect Biaggi and Checa to have his measure in WSBK and beat him consistently.



However, on the Ducati superbike he may get a few more podiums than he has so far been able to achieve on the GP11.1
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This is getting ridiculous. I wouldn't expect biaggi et al to have his measure at all. I think he would beat them easily with a week-end's preparation; he was easily faster than colin edwards when colin was a leading superbike rider, in the japanese long distance superbike race. If he was allowed more preparatory riding he would beat them more easily.



The interesting thing would be to see him ride the ducati wsbk on a track common to motogp and see how his times compared on the ducati superbike vs the ducati motogp bike.
 
I think Rossi would compete pretty easily. What would be interesting would be how he would react if they duffed him up a bit which I am pretty sure they would if given the chance.
 
This is getting ridiculous. I wouldn't expect biaggi et al to have his measure at all. I think he would beat them easily with a week-end's preparation; he was easily faster than colin edwards when colin was a leading superbike rider, in the japanese long distance superbike race. If he was allowed more preparatory riding he would beat them more easily.



The interesting thing would be to see him ride the ducati wsbk on a track common to motogp and see how his times compared on the ducati superbike vs the ducati motogp bike.



Exactly.....it would prove some things no doubt about rubber for one, and what a brilliant piece of kit the 1198 is...and always has been. For the benefit of all involved I think its really worth a shot, and it is very gracious of Carlos who is in the middle of a title fight, it could be a game of one-upmanship between the two facets of Ducati as well, the WSBK Ducati boys seem pretty confident.....it sure as hell would be entertaining, I think Rossi would enjoy the closer and sometimes rough world of WSBK...its much more akin to what use to be......
 
lets not forget how well Simoncelli did on the Aprilia when he'd never even raced a 4 stroke before!
 
Seeing as Valentino has no real political weight in this series and therfore no hope for gaining an unfair machine advantage I would expect Biaggi and Checa to have his measure in WSBK and beat him consistently.



Sorry Squigs and I get the feeling that it was a fishing expedition, but I have to respond.



In short, no bloody way would VR struggle against those guys and I will try to outline why I feel that way.



Firstly, a number of riders have 'gone up' from WSBK to GP and have done little in the way of results (note it says WSBK Jums and please read the lot first
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). Edwards has had podiums but never looked like a championship contender (if we are fair), nor did Bayliss who only got a few results, Vermuelen etc etc, none produced with one exception.



That exception of course is Spies who went from a domestic US series to WSBK, smashed the butts of far more seasoned riders to graduate the next season to MGP where he produced good results only to produce serious results the following year with a race win and podiums. He is the exception.



Alternately, over recent years a number of riders have made the step from MGP to WSBK and near all (the immediate exception being Vermuelen who choose a poor option) have gone on to multiple race wins and/or a championship or near championship.



For example lets look at the three more recent examples of Biaggi (probably the best credentialled at MGP level), Melandri and Checa. All produced race wins and multiple podiums in MGP, but none to the level of Rossi yet when all have gone to WSBK they have either dominated or gone close and have won championships (Biaggi) or should not lose from here.



Coupling this with the well reported scenario of VR last year riding a WSBK Yamaha and producing supreme times I do feel that to suspect he could not compete is absurd.



That said, I would go so far as to say that all of the recognised aliens (and yes to the doubters - that includes VR) would be around 0.5 seconds per lap, yes per lap quicker than a WSBK regular within a short period of time of acclimatisation to tyres etc.



Rossi is an exceptional rider who is suffering at the moment, but no way has he forgotten how to ride a bike













Gaz
 
Sorry Squigs and I get the feeling that it was a fishing expedition, but I have to respond.



In short, no bloody way would VR struggle against those guys and I will try to outline why I feel that way.



Firstly, a number of riders have 'gone up' from WSBK to GP and have done little in the way of results (note it says WSBK Jums and please read the lot first
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). Edwards has had podiums but never looked like a championship contender (if we are fair), nor did Bayliss who only got a few results, Vermuelen etc etc, none produced with one exception.



That exception of course is Spies who went from a domestic US series to WSBK, smashed the butts of far more seasoned riders to graduate the next season to MGP where he produced good results only to produce serious results the following year with a race win and podiums. He is the exception.



Alternately, over recent years a number of riders have made the step from MGP to WSBK and near all (the immediate exception being Vermuelen who choose a poor option) have gone on to multiple race wins and/or a championship or near championship.



For example lets look at the three more recent examples of Biaggi (probably the best credentialled at MGP level), Melandri and Checa. All produced race wins and multiple podiums in MGP, but none to the level of Rossi yet when all have gone to WSBK they have either dominated or gone close and have won championships (Biaggi) or should not lose from here.



Coupling this with the well reported scenario of VR last year riding a WSBK Yamaha and producing supreme times I do feel that to suspect he could not compete is absurd.



That said, I would go so far as to say that all of the recognised aliens (and yes to the doubters - that includes VR) would be around 0.5 seconds per lap, yes per lap quicker than a WSBK regular within a short period of time of acclimatisation to tyres etc.



Rossi is an exceptional rider who is suffering at the moment, but no way has he forgotten how to ride a bike













Gaz



I agree with you 100%.......forgive my fishing trip - sorry to waste your time
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Rossi has won on a superbike already! He teamed up with Edwards to win the Suzuka 8 hours...
 
That exception of course is Spies who went from a domestic US series to WSBK, smashed the butts of far more seasoned riders to graduate the next season to MGP where he produced good results only to produce serious results the following year with a race win and podiums. He is the exception.



I agree with you about Rossi and the other Aliens probably form in WSBK racing. As for Spies being the exception, i only think that is true to an extent. He seems to be the exception in that he is regarded to have top level motogp talent and most of us would agree he has a bright future ahead of him, but so far he hasn't actually produced anything significantly more exceptional than other wsbk riders in the past. Ben has 6th place last year, lies 5th now (unlikely to get higher) and 1 win. Bayliss and Vermuelen both won a race each and got a 6th spot overall in motogp, while Edwards has been 5th twice and 4th once.



My point is that superbike riders have been close to the top before, but none have quite made it. Spies looks like he is more likely than any before him to manage it, but he hasn't done it yet
 
Rossi loaths & contempt for Wsbk. Wouldnt happen. Given the transition of Meladri, i have no doubt Rossi would be a contender. But this is as likely ti happen as Rossi racing in BSB or AMA. End of.
 

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