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can hayden beat stoner

Answer: not today.

if hayden can imrove the duc over this year to reach top 5 level....next year he will finish ahead of stoner not only once!

well see...I personally hope so. i dont like stoner THAT much, I know this is gettn a little lame, but I think there are other riders (even similar age) that are way cooler and have more fighting spirit (even though puking into Ur helmet proofes U got SOME balls...)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jul 9 2009, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Answer: not today.

if hayden can imrove the duc over this year to reach top 5 level....next year he will finish ahead of stoner not only once!

well see...I personally hope so. i dont like stoner THAT much, I know this is gettn a little lame, but I think there are other riders (even similar age) that are way cooler and have more fighting spirit (even though puking into Ur helmet proofes U got SOME balls...)

other riders that are way cooler and have more fighting spirit = Jorge Lorenzo

puking into helmet proofes nothing

and who knows on indi or philip hayden can catch the front guy i'll think that why he move to ducati
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cygnus88 @ Jul 9 2009, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>other riders that are way cooler and have more fighting spirit = Jorge Lorenzo

puking into helmet proofes nothing

and who knows on indi or philip hayden can catch the front guy i'll think that why he move to ducati

well...i think like so else has written here, that hayden has some extramotivation in the USA and laguna is a track he likes.....not even a fighter like him can come from the back of the grid to no 1 in a few races.

realistic i think hes in 7 or 8. at the moment (what he can do with the bike in a regular, dry race without too many guys going down...

but i wish him the best to be battling in front 2010!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jul 8 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Aye thats fishin alright, but more importantly, congrats on your Diary for Plague Lovers pic.

Big Manics fan myself!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jul 9 2009, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Answer: not today.

if hayden can imrove the duc over this year to reach top 5 level....next year he will finish ahead of stoner not only once!

well see...I personally hope so. i dont like stoner THAT much, I know this is gettn a little lame, but I think there are other riders (even similar age) that are way cooler and have more fighting spirit (even though puking into Ur helmet proofes U got SOME balls...)
If Hayden has his bike on par with Stoner sure he can beat him. Look it is any given sunday type rules really when you think of it.
 
AND AGAIN can HAYDEN beat STONER at sachsenring
it's look like ducati it's already rideable by hayden
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cygnus88 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ROSSI already beat STONER FAIR and SQUARE,
LORENZO this year beat stoner


Yes on a bike anyone could win WC on .....
 
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nope stoner win wc07 because the bike ......and because he suite with the duc and that year the duc 800cc is fastest than other bike, at 08 still the duc it's fastest that other bike however rossi had into stoner little mentaly guts and boom stoner LOST (i repeat) L.O.S T
and now YAMAHA looks like already has a SAME power as DUCATI and lorenzo is way in the front of stoner so lorenzo already beat stoner and now hayden it's seem already comfort with his bike so i think he can beat stoner also
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cygnus88 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ooo
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nope stoner win wc07 because the bike ......and because he suite with the duc and that year the duc 800cc is fastest than other bike, at 08 still the duc it's fastest that other bike however rossi had into stoner little mentaly guts and boom stoner LOST (i repeat) L.O.S T
and now YAMAHA looks like already has a SAME power as DUCATI and lorenzo is way in the front of stoner so lorenzo already beat stoner

Yeah! ..... you reckon thats right? ..... I'll just go check .....









nope .... I'm right. Thought so.
 
oo and 1 more thing stoner puke at his helmet that makes his a dirtiest rider have ever ride
 
Not sure if its been asked, but; IF (i know its a big "if") Hayden should find himself in a position to pass Stoner, will he do it? Should he do it?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 18 2009, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not sure if its been asked, but; IF (i know its a big "if") Hayden should find himself in a position to pass Stoner, will he do it? Should he do it?
Good question. I would say 69 is a team player so I would think not. But we all know your teammate is the first person you have to beat. I know he won't do a Pedro thats for sure.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 18 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good question. I would say 69 is a team player so I would think not. But we all know your teammate is the first person you have to beat. I know he won't do a Pedro thats for sure.

Personally, I don't think he should do it UNLESS it was for a win. Which in that case it would minimize the points taken by Casey's rivals. (Even though it would be taking points from Casey, it would mean less points taken by Rossi/Lorenzo). Anyway, I know its a LONG shot, but I just thought it might be something being discussed. Stoner is a mad man, and I think he might pull off a win or at least a podium, but the reality is he has faded lately and he might be in the clutch of Hayden toward the end of the race (basing my assumption on Nicky's qual position).

Yes, I know I'm ahead of myself, but its worth a thought.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 18 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know he won't do a Pedro thats for sure.
Well, he did take out Canepa in qualifying. Of course he didn't sit there blaming Canepa and his bike had barely quit moving before he was headed over to Canepa to apologize or check that he wasn't too badly ...... up.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Jul 18 2009, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, he did take out Canepa in qualifying.

Hi Matt, not sure what your point is (since you highlighted "did"); I don't think I would need to point out the WORLD OF DIFFERENCE in crashing in pouring down conditions, behind the guy you inadvertently hit, and during qual (as oppose to the penultimate race on the cusp of a championship). Most every highside you've seen in your life did NOT collect another rider. He was not trying to put some hard pass on Canepa. To say this crash was BIZARRE would be a gross understatement. (Again, not sure what your point is above).


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Of course he didn't sit there blaming Canepa and his bike had barely quit moving before he was headed over to Canepa to apologize or check that he wasn't too badly ...... up.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Jul 18 2009, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You think Takacrashy is watching and wondering why Nicky ran over to see if Canepa
is allright


True. This is the difference why Peders deserve all the .... he gets--he deserves it! Peder's character is not only ......, but its opposite of Nicky's. I'm reminded of the torpedo on the penultimate round at Portugal, it still gets me fired up. Piece of .... Peders takes out Nicky in a fit of blind jealously, then not only so much of a look in the direction toward the man he might have just killed, less injured. (I just watched the video several times). ....... Peders throws up his hands as if in disgust to Hayden for getting in his way, ....... amazing. Honda, even more stupid to favor this piece of .... and his .... pusher, will forever baffle me.

A case study in opposing character:

Nicky crashes a fellow rider, in what could only be called a bizarre circumstance, and Hayden's first reaction is to check on the rider.
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Check out the marshall trying to get Nicky out of harms way, but Hayden refuses and continues to show his concern for a fellow rider. (If you look at the video, you can detect a limp as Nicky comes over to check on Canepa).
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Racing aside, what does this tell you about the man's character?

AND HERE WE HAVE THE OPPOSITE!

Peders throws his hand up in disgust, as if the rider he just torpedoed was somehow to blame. He does not so much as even glance over to see if the rider who is laid out on the ground is ok. (I just watched the video for any sign of Peders glancing over, none what so ever). He only gets close enough to his bike to see if he can continue then about 5 feet from it, turns his back toward Nicky and walks off flailing his hands. (See the position of the marshals, not even arrived at the scene, who where running toward them).
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Peders turns his back! Take a look at the marshals running to the crash. They haven't even reached Peders bike, much less Nicky; when Peders turns his back, he makes his character known to the world (that is except the blind people who somehow chalk it up to a mere racing incident and have attached nothing about the man—Peders and this test of character). At this point, Peders has left his "teammate" for dead or alive, of no concern to him. He couldn't have known if Nicky would have started convulsing or been alright, because he had his back turned, and did so all the way to the fence. In fact, as if his dastard character had already not been revealed, he continued to flail his arms in disgust, as if to blame the man who was laying in the gravel behind him.

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is Pedrosa--the man; not just the racer. He is both small in stature and in decency. Make no mistake, he has NOT changed, he remains one in the same as his mentor, both vial and worthless in human terms.

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No, I haven't let it go.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 18 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This, ladies and gentlemen, is Pedrosa--the man; not just the racer. He is both small in stature and in decency. Make no mistake, he has NOT changed, he remains one in the same as his mentor, both vial and worthless in human terms.

No, I haven't let it go. .... you if you disagree!
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Amen, Brutha!
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Peddles, this one's for you (and your apologists, wherever they may be!) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

Jumkie, how do you find such heroic strength? It must be a such a terrible, crushing burden for you, finding your way through life with such a shy, introverted personality.
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Maybe your buddy Roger can help 'therapize' you and bring you out of your shell.
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