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Burgess defends Rossi's tyre move

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64520

wasnt sure about posting this but it is the off season and we dont have much to do.

Burgess defends Rossi's tyre move:

Fiat Yamaha crew chief Jeremy Burgess has defended Valentino Rossi's campaign last year to get a switch to Bridgestone tyres for 2008.

Rossi was adamant that the strong form of Bridgestone rubber last season played a key factor in him not being able to take the fight to Casey Stoner - and was not afraid of turning his back on Michelin after enjoying several title successes with them.

Although that behaviour prompted some to label Rossi a bad loser, Burgess thinks that Rossi had no choice if he was to increase his chances of landing another MotoGP crown.

"I think the tyre situation is exactly how professional people handle things," Burgess said in an interview with Motor Cycle News.

"He was aware of what he needed to improve, or believed he knew what he needed to improve his performance, and without that product he didn't think he could achieve it.

"He was in a position to push to the very end, even perhaps to throw his last card on the table and say, 'well I won't race unless I get Bridgestones, that's how important it is to me.'"

He added: "Alarm bells would have been ringing because Valentino probably pulls anywhere between 20 and 60 percent of the crowd at any European race.

"When he didn't get the tyres through the usual channels he needed to play his trump card, as any businessman would. I just think that's normal.

"There has been no criminality or underhand dealing going on, so the fact Bridgestone is super-keen to work with Valentino and he wants to use the tyres is a normal things that happens during the course of negotiations at the end of every season."
 
I just read the blub on Autosport myself and then rushed to the site to see if anyone else had read it.....

I am totally shocked. Rossi did have a total whinny moment and threaten to throw in the towel if he didn't get his precious bridgestones.

I must say... Totally shocked. I have to step up and say that I got it wrong when I said no man can itch and complain, throw a tantrum to get what they want. Rossi threaten and Dorna/Bridgestone jumped.

The conspiracy theories are true.... I guess a standardize ECU may be next on the horizon...

Rossi - your cache just went down a level or two.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Jan 5 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]105862[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I just read the blub on Autosport myself and then rushed to the site to see if anyone else had read it.....

I am totally shocked. Rossi did have a total whinny moment and threaten to throw in the towel if he didn't get his precious bridgestones.

I must say... Totally shocked. I have to step up and say that I got it wrong when I said no man can itch and complain, throw a tantrum to get what they want. Rossi threaten and Dorna/Bridgestone jumped.

The conspiracy theories are true.... I guess a standardize ECU may be next on the horizon...

Rossi - your cache just went down a level or two.


Umm it's been pretty obvious from the beginning that's exactly what happened. Some choose even now not to believe it.
 
yes and i will look forward to the standard ecu, a race win should be decided by the rider and mechanics as a team rather than having electronics masking problems if the mechanics failed to do there job properly.
even if when a standard ecu comes into to play and rossi still doesnt win, i will still be for the standard ecu because it makes things more even so the rider and mechanics will have to work harder and i think the racing will be much closer.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 5 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]105864[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Umm it's been pretty obvious from the beginning that's exactly what happened. Some choose even now not to believe it.

Some people are not in touch with reality. ...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Jan 4 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]105875[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
rossi = 07 wc of whingers



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I read burgess theory, its all about building towns around water, and in a certain order. Thanks.

I wonder if we would have all you aussie ...... whinging if Randy De Puniet was kicking off because he wanted bridgestones. No.

Stoner-rodes

G Crosby would kick stoners ..., and he is a Kiwi.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 4 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]105877[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
pinky = 07 WC forum .....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 4 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]105877[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
pinky = 07 WC forum .....
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to quote on of the best movies ever made The Godfather, "it's not personal, just business...."

Burgess said Rossi is a businessman with a certain leverage in the Dorna community and he used all his available resources to get his way.

Ruthless? Cunning? Shameful?

We can only voice our opinions, but he flexed his muscle and got his way. End of story.

Thats my opinion... Oh, well.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 4 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]105864[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Umm it's been pretty obvious from the beginning that's exactly what happened. Some choose even now not to believe it.


I agree.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Jan 4 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]105862[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

The conspiracy theories are true.... I guess a standardize ECU may be next on the horizon...



Uh, where was the conspiracy? I thought Burgress just cleared that up.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Babelfish @ Jan 5 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]105898[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Uh, where was the conspiracy? I thought Burgress just cleared that up.



Do you close your eyes when you get to the bits you don't want to believe?
Here I'll put the quote in bold. This is what the topic starter is talking about.
Straight from his own team. No matter what you say about him deserving it or any other excuse, the way it was handled was plain wrong and no other rider would have been able to pull that sort of behind the scenes stuff off.

"He was in a position to push to the very end, even perhaps to throw his last card on the table and say, 'well I won't race unless I get Bridgestones, that's how important it is to me.'"

He added: "Alarm bells would have been ringing because Valentino probably pulls anywhere between 20 and 60 percent of the crowd at any European race.

"When he didn't get the tyres through the usual channels he needed to play his trump card, as any businessman would. I just think that's normal.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 5 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]105900[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Do you close your eyes when you get to the bits you don't want to believe?
Here I'll put the quote in bold. This is what the topic starter is talking about.
Straight from his own team. No matter what you say about him deserving it or any other excuse, the way it was handled was plain wrong and no other rider would have been able to pull that sort of behind the scenes stuff off.

"He was in a position to push to the very end, even perhaps to throw his last card on the table and say, 'well I won't race unless I get Bridgestones, that's how important it is to me.'"

He added: "Alarm bells would have been ringing because Valentino probably pulls anywhere between 20 and 60 percent of the crowd at any European race.

"When he didn't get the tyres through the usual channels he needed to play his trump card, as any businessman would. I just think that's normal.


Thanks Fizzle for you reply to Bable.

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The consipiracy was Rossi acted like a spoiled brat and Dorn acquiesced to the brats demands and pulled this "Controlled tyre" threat to give the baby his bottle..
Bable where have you been? I distinctly remember you being a part of the conversation.
 
who gives a monkeys anyway about what goes on behind the scene's its none of our dam buisness, our business is what happens on the tv, if it wasnt rossi you lot wouldnt give a toss, as long as we see better racing who cares, im sure many of us have pulled stunts in our lives to get something we need. Just because your name isnt valentino rossi doesnt mean its any different.

if he thinks he needs bridgestones to compete then so be it, why should he rubbish his name and have people say he has lost it because of a set of tyres, the same goes for yamaha if they keep giving him a half developed bike/engine then he is entitled to switch manufacturers

if your bike tyres were crap im sure you would want a different make next time you purchased some, he requested them at the end of the season, its not like hes had them changed half way through the season so whats the problem?.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 5 2008, 03:56 AM) [snapback]105903[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
who gives a monkeys anyway about what goes on behind the scene's its none of our dam buisness, our business is what happens on the tv, if it wasnt rossi you lot wouldnt give a toss, as long as we see better racing who cares, im sure many of us have pulled stunts in our lives to get something we need. Just because your name isnt valentino rossi doesnt mean its any different.

if he thinks he needs bridgestones to compete then so be it, why should he rubbish his name and have people say he has lost it because of a set of tyres, the same goes for yamaha if they keep giving him a half developed bike/engine then he is entitled to switch manufacturers

if your bike tyres were crap im sure you would want a different make next time you purchased some, he requested them at the end of the season, its not like hes had them changed half way through the season so whats the problem?.

I agree entirely, especially with the bit I bolded
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 4 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]105900[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Do you close your eyes when you get to the bits you don't want to believe?


Lord help us.

Some may have noticed I totally dropped off the debate that we were having in the thread: Being Valentino Rossi... because after carefully and comprehensively dispelling every single angle to dispatch the defenders of Rossi's-Bridgestone issue, I realized that the Rossi apologists continued to refuse to see the reality of the debate. This is very frustrating. Its amazing how you can show people the truth, put it in front of their face, and they still can't see it. So, I decided to just stop. You just can't show blind people the light.

Yes, Frizz, it’s amazing. Its like they read the words but cannot understand the meaning. It really is a strange and frustrating phenomena. You can bold it, quote it, send it to them in a you tube video, but really it doesn't matter. After addressing every single point they use to defend Rossi's preferential treatment and his ill-gotten demands by threats, coercion, and strong-arm tactics, both Dorna and Rossi are to blame for the impartial treatment of one rider that has destroyed the integrity of the sport--what about this seems to get lost?!? Both are culpable.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Jan 4 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]105903[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
who gives a monkeys anyway about what goes on behind the scene's its none of our dam buisness, our business is what happens on the tv, if it wasnt rossi you lot wouldnt give a toss, as long as we see better racing who cares, im sure many of us have pulled stunts in our lives to get something we need. Just because your name isnt valentino rossi doesnt mean its any different.


Hahaha, this is really truly the gist of the problem that Rossi fans seem to overwhelmingly have. And it doesn't surprise me that Y46 would agree.


Do you guys know what it means to have an authentic contest? Ask yourself this question (not that it really will make a difference judging from what you think anyway but:) Why do professional sport/contests have a governing body? So it doesn’t matter what goes behind the scenes? Wow, I have neither the time nor the inclination to address such a narrow minded, ludicrous, and absurd statement that I have highlighted in bold.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Jan 4 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]105901[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Thanks Fizzle for you reply to Bable.

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The consipiracy was Rossi acted like a spoiled brat and Dorn acquiesced to the brats demands and pulled this "Controlled tyre" threat to give the baby his bottle..
Bable where have you been? I distinctly remember you being a part of the conversation.


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Jan 5 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]105905[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

Some may have noticed I totally dropped off the debate that we were having in the thread: Being Valentino Rossi... because after carefully and comprehensively dispelling every single angle to dispatch the defenders of Rossi's-Bridgestone issue, I realized that the Rossi apologists continued to refuse to see the reality of the debate. This is very frustrating. Its amazing how you can show people the truth, put it in front of their face, and they still can't see it. So, I decided to just stop. You just can't show blind people the light.




You can’t put brains in statues........
 
yer all pissing againts the wind on this one


i think G.W.B. showed us that if you have enough muscle and powerfull influence with the backing of a lot of people there is no such thing as fair or right and wrong

as a fan i could'nt care less i just wish it was march already

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alex29 @ Jan 5 2008, 05:18 AM) [snapback]105907[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
You can’t put brains in statues........



wow did you come up with that yourself
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