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Times this year were 1 second slower than last year, in the race, and the pole was 5 tenths slower.
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Times this year were 1 second slower than last year, in the race, and the pole was 5 tenths slower.
Hard to explain, but BS control rubber seems to be having a much greater effect, but to be same/similar to seven years ago with a dry race is surprising, and with all of the 'advancements' since then-disappointing. Its a wonder the Superbikes are catching and in some cases faster than Motogp these days.....
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hu what...oh man i just woke up..fell sleep durring the race
This is closer racing Curve. The formula is far better thought out, it benefits from far better organisation than those clowns at Dorna, there is no tc, or electronics, or crazy tyre rules,; there are plenty of changes in position and you never know who's going to win. Even better, the commentary pisses all over Speed or 'Parish and Charlie ....'.
In all honesty, I seriously believe that Dorna would somehow find a way to .... this up too.
Apparently Kawasaki are back for 2012 with Fleagle as a fully fledged factory rider.
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Maybe its that conspiracy you, Talps, Bops Inc. are on about, except they made the entire grid slower, not just Rossi?
I guess weather conditions have no effect on lap times in your world right?
Reality, something that is missing in your universe.
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That is evident to anybody who has eyes! Which does not mean it is an "unfair" advantage -- it can be just better setup exploiting the tires better, better tuning of the the TC, whatever. It is fact that the current Bridgestones have left all riders complaining, all BUT Lorenzo. Explain it the way you want, but the fact is there.
Unless of course you want me to believe that Lorenzo has 5 tenths/1 second up his right wrist, vis a vis riders like Rossi or Stoner. Such preposterous claims have only been made by your hated Rossi boppers for their idol, in the past, and I always considered them ridiculous. Have you become a Lorenzo bopper?
This post is gold!
Wow, so you are saying that perhaps Lorenzo's tires are better or suit him? Wait, wait, wait, so you can gain an advantage by having tires that suit the rider? Uhm, like those Saturday night special that Talpa thinks are fantasy and never existed, only in Area 51? Uhm, I think you boppers need to have a meeting, because you boys are being inconsistent with you rationalizations and fantastic explanations.
Better set up? I thought only Rossi could manage to have the best set up ever, and ever. You mean to say Lorenzo, a professional rider with lower class titles, can do that too? Unbelievable? Oh, and so they use TC at Yamaha? Oh I though only Stoner used that. Amazing. You guys been telling us that Rossi can rider around issues, etc. We've also been telling you, some success has come partly because he's (Rossi) had certain advantages, and now you are proving my point, except not accepting (especially ...... Talpa & sidekick inam) that these " advantages" can make a major a difference. So do these advantages only become a problem when they are detrimental to Rossi? Anyway, this doesn't entirely make sense because these two are on the same team, on a package developed by Valentino (that's what you and the Boppers have been telling us right, or did you forget?--Lorenzo is only doing good on because Rossi made the bike good). No matter what I say, I know this doesn't make sense in your world. You just can't handle that Lorenzo is extraordinary. Just like you guys couldn't handle when Stoner had an extraordinary season. You guys must find some devious and dubious explanation to belittle rival's accomplishments. Is this hating? You guys invented it and then try to say others do it to deflect from your lame attempts at logic.
So Lorenzo is faster than other riders (yes, I know, hard to believe), therefore, there must be some conspiracy by Yamaha against Rossi? Uhm, so then how do you explain Vales titles where he would beat everybody in sight? Did he or didn't he have a "technical advantage"? (Oh snap, you might get into an argument with Talpa, that is if you follow the logic that you are proposing for Lorenzo.) Not likely, as I'm sure your brains can't follow common sense.
Would you two lame brains like to continue digging yourselves an impossible hole? (Not that it matters, as common logic does not exist in your world.) Its not us hating or whatever you guys want to deflect from showing how crazy you guys are buddy.
I know some of you get tired of the back and forth, but if you can read a post like the ones from J4rno & Talps lately telling us how Yamaha or some supernatural force must be behind Lorenzo & Rossi's pace, and not get a reaction out of you, then I guess you're better than me. Or perhaps just smarter, as ignoring would certainly be less time consuming.
Maybe its that conspiracy you, Talps, Bops Inc. are on about, except they made the entire grid slower, not just Rossi?
I guess weather conditions have no effect on lap times in your world right?
Reality, something that is missing in your universe.
Oh Ok, the weather has had a 7 year effect on how slow the restricted current crop of 800's are?
The weather has also only shined for WSBK allowing them to gain major ground on Motogp times of late, and in some cases (suzuki) beating them?
Of course you missed the point, intentionally, to bring up your normal bopper rubbish......
Brno 2010
Weather conditions,
Track: Dry
Air: 26 deg
Humidity: 43%
Ground: 40 deg
Race winner Lap 22: JL 1.59.166
Brno 2003
Weather conditions,
Track: Dry
Air: 27 deg
Humidity: 30%
Ground: 45 Deg
Race winner Lap 22: VR 1.59.966
You would expect that there would be at least a few seconds difference in 7 years.
My point is, that the engine rule, the control rubbish rubber, the fuel restrictions, and all the other rot is contributing much more heavily to a slower and more boring spectacle this year.
Maybe global warming slowed them all down............? Whats your take being a resident conspiracy theorist?
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I've always said that JL is extraordinary, And Casey only had an extraordinary season? Isn't he extraordinary as well? Or does one only qualify for extraordinary status when one continues on with their massive talent to win multiple titles in your book? Jorge hasn't even won the title yet and he is extraordinary, but Casey having already won a title only had an extraordinary season???? Great logic..........does this mean that Nicky only had an extraordinary season in 2006 or is he extraordinary as well?
I never said that the Sat night specials never existed, oh chosen one.......only that other riders could also access them as well. Maybe you will edit your post again to not seem like such a .... now.....oh sorry that's impossible.
Hang on, I thought that you said 'can you please stop this crap and let the rest of us fans of the sport simply admire Rossi for his awesome talent and record breaking accomplishments'
Does this mean that Rossi is extraordinary too?? or does the your theory that VR has had so much of a technical advantage over the field his entire career mean that he is just a pretender.......?
You are arguing with yourself in a ridiculous bid to exert your deluded self-made Messiah image on PS. And this is what is really funny
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Oh Ok, the weather has had a 7 year effect on how slow the restricted current crop of 800's are?
The weather has also only shined for WSBK allowing them to gain major ground on Motogp times of late, and in some cases (suzuki) beating them?
Of course you missed the point, intentionally, to bring up your normal bopper rubbish......
Brno 2010
Weather conditions,
Track: Dry
Air: 26 deg
Humidity: 43%
Ground: 40 deg
Race winner Lap 22: JL 1.59.166
Brno 2003
Weather conditions,
Track: Dry
Air: 27 deg
Humidity: 30%
Ground: 45 Deg
Race winner Lap 22: VR 1.59.966
You would expect that there would be at least a few seconds difference in 7 years.
My point is, that the engine rule, the control rubbish rubber, the fuel restrictions, and all the other rot is contributing much more heavily to a slower and more boring spectacle this year.
Maybe global warming slowed them all down............? Whats your take being a resident conspiracy theorist?
Are you serious?!? OMG, you are dumber than I had originally thought. Breathtaking! And you actually looked it up? Wow...Uhm, 990cc vs 800cc and you bite on the weather comment? You are hilarious! Nothing get's past you.
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But lately you've been on a tizzy trying to explain how there is some unseen hand holding down Lorenzo's rivals. Yeah, we believe you NOT.
Did you have an emergency meeting with J4rno? Oh so Sat Nites exist now? I thought you said they only exited in Area 51. Its a good thing you know how to backpedal, but you only fool yourself.
I know it hard for Boppers to come up for air, but not all of us suck his .... and still think the man is an amazing talent and accomplished rider. Even with some technical advantages, we realize the bikes don't ride themselves (unlike Stoner's 07 Ducati, which was ridden by remote control--wisdom according to Bopperdumb).
Yes, extraordinary. But not Deity, as you would like everybody to worship. We can admire him without worshipping him, and those that don't in your book are "hating".
You are arguing with yourself in a ridiculous bid to exert your deluded self-made Messiah image on PS. And this is what is really funny
Yes, but I'm the one always laughing. Quick, call your sidekick J4rno & Inam, I want to laugh at them too.
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Maybe its that conspiracy you, Talps, Bops Inc. are on about, except they made the entire grid slower, not just Rossi?
I guess weather conditions have no effect on lap times in your world right?
Reality, something that is missing in your universe.
Weather conditions, in my universe, affect all riders in the same way. So if one rider is 1 second faster than all others under the same weather, either you are saying Lorenzo is immune even from the weather while the others suffer it (which would be an instance of unashamed Lorenzo-bopperism) or you are saying that Lorenzo is worth -- as a rider -- that much difference over all others (he did not have such divine power last year, but never mind, maybe God visited him during the winter). Believing that would make of you the Lorenzo-bopper of the forum. Your choice, -- anyway I note that your allergy to bopperism is one-sided, that's clear...
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Such a long post, only to throw on me your (mis)interpretation of the intentions that, according to you, is "behind" my word. Boring game. Please answer to the words I put in front of you, not to those that you think are behind -- if you can read
I never spoke of conspiracy for instance... so stop throwing your conspiracy crap at me
And of course you still avoided the simple question: please explain me why Lorenzo is the only one who does not complain about tires, and why he can cruise with such ease faster than the others this year. What is your explanation? I'm still waiting to hear it. Spell it out clearly.
I say that he must be enjoying a technical advantage, for the simple reason that only some kind of technical advantage can explain that kind of domination. You say he's not, so please spell out your explanation. Tell me you believe he is so much faster than Rossi or Pedrosa or Stoner, simply based on his supernatural skill. Reveal the Lorenzo-bopper in you even more
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