http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new...ntary_team.html
Dorna you truly screwed motogp fans, .... you and the horse you rode into town on...
Dorna you truly screwed motogp fans, .... you and the horse you rode into town on...
BBC Announces Moto GP Commentary Team
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Stupid old farts at the top of the BBC ladder (no change then for 2009) again we know what we are doing we are good for the public...
NOT
Hate this fukcing Corporation with a passion and always have.
2009 time to get another fine for not paying there rip off fee.!!
NOT
Hate this fukcing Corporation with a passion and always have.
2009 time to get another fine for not paying there rip off fee.!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chockmoose @ Jan 19 2009, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new...ntary_team.html
Dorna you truly screwed motogp fans, .... you and the horse you rode into town on...
Out of all their .... ups, this is probably by far the most serious one.
They will loose a lot of viewers and at next sponsor renewal they will be a lot less atractive and they will loose huge sums on sponsors, next time around the TV-rights will be less worth becuase of the decreasing viewer numbers, and so on....
Dorna you truly screwed motogp fans, .... you and the horse you rode into town on...
Out of all their .... ups, this is probably by far the most serious one.
They will loose a lot of viewers and at next sponsor renewal they will be a lot less atractive and they will loose huge sums on sponsors, next time around the TV-rights will be less worth becuase of the decreasing viewer numbers, and so on....
Guys! Here in germany we had eurosprt commentators taht simply were BRILLIANT!
the made sexual jokes that were almost too much for TV and knew what they were talkin bout concerning the sport itself!
now we have to watch it on Deutsches Sport Fernsehen (DSF) what translates into "German Sports Television"...
just tell U to see were suffering too over here! :-(=
the made sexual jokes that were almost too much for TV and knew what they were talkin bout concerning the sport itself!
now we have to watch it on Deutsches Sport Fernsehen (DSF) what translates into "German Sports Television"...
just tell U to see were suffering too over here! :-(=
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jan 19 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Out of all their .... ups, this is probably by far the most serious one.
They will loose a lot of viewers and at next sponsor renewal they will be a lot less atractive and they will loose huge sums on sponsors, next time around the TV-rights will be less worth becuase of the decreasing viewer numbers, and so on....
Motogp racing is a product as far as they are concerned, which needs to be placed for maximum benefit.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term. They would appear not to have picked the ideal time in the economic cycle to experiment, just as in (imo) dispensing with long-term supporters with a natural affinity for gp racing like michelin and to a lesser extent dunlop.
They will loose a lot of viewers and at next sponsor renewal they will be a lot less atractive and they will loose huge sums on sponsors, next time around the TV-rights will be less worth becuase of the decreasing viewer numbers, and so on....
Motogp racing is a product as far as they are concerned, which needs to be placed for maximum benefit.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term. They would appear not to have picked the ideal time in the economic cycle to experiment, just as in (imo) dispensing with long-term supporters with a natural affinity for gp racing like michelin and to a lesser extent dunlop.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 19 2009, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Motogp racing is a product as far as they are concerned, which needs to be placed for maximum benefit.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term. They would appear not to have picked the ideal time in the economic cycle to experiment, just as in (imo) dispensing with long-term supporters with a natural affinity for gp racing like michelin and to a lesser extent dunlop.
I'm not even sure it's related to stupidity. We will have to wait for an announcement from motogp.com before we can pass judgment.
Given the number of home made videos on youtube and other websites, I'm sure Dorna are aware that the GP product is widely pirated and distributed around the globe. I highly doubt they are angry about all of the fan videos and the free advertising they get, but they may have realized their is a fair amount of interest in FP2 and Qualifying.
If motogp.com expands it's services to include streaming hq playback of FP2 and Qualifying, it may be a smart move from a business perspective. Personally I believe it would be even smarter to add FP1 and FP3, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
Given Dorna's propensity to negotiate deals that don't actually exist in contracts, it wouldn't surprise me if expanding services on motogp.com is part of their plan after obtaining a gentleman's agreement with the major terrestrial providers like BBC.
Technically, if all sessions are made available without commercial interruption, it will be a benefit for the fans, even if you have to pay more to get a motogp.com subscription.
We shall see.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term. They would appear not to have picked the ideal time in the economic cycle to experiment, just as in (imo) dispensing with long-term supporters with a natural affinity for gp racing like michelin and to a lesser extent dunlop.
I'm not even sure it's related to stupidity. We will have to wait for an announcement from motogp.com before we can pass judgment.
Given the number of home made videos on youtube and other websites, I'm sure Dorna are aware that the GP product is widely pirated and distributed around the globe. I highly doubt they are angry about all of the fan videos and the free advertising they get, but they may have realized their is a fair amount of interest in FP2 and Qualifying.
If motogp.com expands it's services to include streaming hq playback of FP2 and Qualifying, it may be a smart move from a business perspective. Personally I believe it would be even smarter to add FP1 and FP3, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
Given Dorna's propensity to negotiate deals that don't actually exist in contracts, it wouldn't surprise me if expanding services on motogp.com is part of their plan after obtaining a gentleman's agreement with the major terrestrial providers like BBC.
Technically, if all sessions are made available without commercial interruption, it will be a benefit for the fans, even if you have to pay more to get a motogp.com subscription.
We shall see.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jan 19 2009, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm not even sure it's related to stupidity. We will have to wait for an announcement from motogp.com before we can pass judgment.
Given the number of home made videos on youtube and other websites, I'm sure Dorna are aware that the GP product is widely pirated and distributed around the globe. I highly doubt they are angry about all of the fan videos and the free advertising they get, but they may have realized their is a fair amount of interest in FP2 and Qualifying.
If motogp.com expands it's services to include streaming hq playback of FP2 and Qualifying, it may be a smart move from a business perspective. Personally I believe it would be even smarter to add FP1 and FP3, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
Given Dorna's propensity to negotiate deals that don't actually exist in contracts, it wouldn't surprise me if expanding services on motogp.com is part of their plan after obtaining a gentleman's agreement with the major terrestrial providers like BBC.
Technically, if all sessions are made available without commercial interruption, it will be a benefit for the fans, even if you have to pay more to get a motogp.com subscription.
We shall see.
My main argument against that is divided in two points
1. The general public are not willing to pay another €150 just to see more. The die hard fans is not the issue here, they are few and thereby pocket change.
2. People, even die hard fans, doesn't want to watch the race on a computer, they want their flat screen sofa and a beer. Few, very few have the capability to stream through a computer to their TV. (reminds me I have to install the streaming plugin for media portal
)
Add to that streaming problems dorna allways had, and for people like me that live in the middle of nowhere, bandwith problems I can't see a huge increase for the web site.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 19 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Motogp racing is a product as far as they are concerned, which needs to be placed for maximum benefit.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term.
I agree and by .... up I did indeed mean stupidety.
It's greed that took overhand and they didn't realize the importance of a broad quality presentation like they had through Eurosport. Almost any sport can be made interesting if they include engouh quality side information, and likewise, almost any sport can be made boring by bad commentators. UK moan but they are of the ones that are better off right after Spain and Italy. For the rest of Europe I expect a rather dark future.
Given the number of home made videos on youtube and other websites, I'm sure Dorna are aware that the GP product is widely pirated and distributed around the globe. I highly doubt they are angry about all of the fan videos and the free advertising they get, but they may have realized their is a fair amount of interest in FP2 and Qualifying.
If motogp.com expands it's services to include streaming hq playback of FP2 and Qualifying, it may be a smart move from a business perspective. Personally I believe it would be even smarter to add FP1 and FP3, but that might be a bridge too far at this point.
Given Dorna's propensity to negotiate deals that don't actually exist in contracts, it wouldn't surprise me if expanding services on motogp.com is part of their plan after obtaining a gentleman's agreement with the major terrestrial providers like BBC.
Technically, if all sessions are made available without commercial interruption, it will be a benefit for the fans, even if you have to pay more to get a motogp.com subscription.
We shall see.
My main argument against that is divided in two points
1. The general public are not willing to pay another €150 just to see more. The die hard fans is not the issue here, they are few and thereby pocket change.
2. People, even die hard fans, doesn't want to watch the race on a computer, they want their flat screen sofa and a beer. Few, very few have the capability to stream through a computer to their TV. (reminds me I have to install the streaming plugin for media portal
Add to that streaming problems dorna allways had, and for people like me that live in the middle of nowhere, bandwith problems I can't see a huge increase for the web site.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 19 2009, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Motogp racing is a product as far as they are concerned, which needs to be placed for maximum benefit.
I think in actuality like many of the rule changes this may be more an example of stupidity than malevolence, in that they may have a genuine belief that placing motogp with a general broadcaster rather than with pay TV might give the sport wider exposure in the long term.
I agree and by .... up I did indeed mean stupidety.
It's greed that took overhand and they didn't realize the importance of a broad quality presentation like they had through Eurosport. Almost any sport can be made interesting if they include engouh quality side information, and likewise, almost any sport can be made boring by bad commentators. UK moan but they are of the ones that are better off right after Spain and Italy. For the rest of Europe I expect a rather dark future.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jan 19 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My main argument against that is divided in two points
1. The general public are not willing to pay another €150 just to see more. The die hard fans is not the issue here, they are few and thereby pocket change.
2. People, even die hard fans, doesn't want to watch the race on a computer, they want their flat screen sofa and a beer. Few, very few have the capability to stream through a computer to their TV. (reminds me I have to install the streaming plugin for media portal
)
1. The general public rarely watch FP2 or even qualifying. The races will still be provided to the gen pub free of charge, but FP2 and Qualifying may end up as pay per view services on motogp.com. If the coverage is better and motogp.com expands their services to offer FP1 and FP3, I think it may be beneficial to the sport.
2. You're right. I would prefer to sit on the sofa with a beer and watch the races with friends. But for the record, I haven't watched a race on the tele since 2005 for better or worse.
You Europeans have it good.
1. The general public are not willing to pay another €150 just to see more. The die hard fans is not the issue here, they are few and thereby pocket change.
2. People, even die hard fans, doesn't want to watch the race on a computer, they want their flat screen sofa and a beer. Few, very few have the capability to stream through a computer to their TV. (reminds me I have to install the streaming plugin for media portal
1. The general public rarely watch FP2 or even qualifying. The races will still be provided to the gen pub free of charge, but FP2 and Qualifying may end up as pay per view services on motogp.com. If the coverage is better and motogp.com expands their services to offer FP1 and FP3, I think it may be beneficial to the sport.
2. You're right. I would prefer to sit on the sofa with a beer and watch the races with friends. But for the record, I haven't watched a race on the tele since 2005 for better or worse.
As I suspected, no FP2 and qualifying on the red button so it looks like I'll be missing a lot of action from now on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jan 19 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1. The general public rarely watch FP2 or even qualifying. The races will still be provided to the gen pub free of charge
Only in the contries where motorcycle racing is big. In the scandinavian countries it was unsellable and ended up on a premium sattelite package only. Another $60 a month for 50 channels where of 49 is uninteresting or overlapping my current package. I suspect the situation is much the same in many other contries.
Reminder to self: Set up cardsharing client. The satelite providers has ...... with me for the last time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>2. You're right. I would prefer to sit on the sofa with a beer and watch the races with friends. But for the record, I haven't watched a race on the tele since 2005 for better or worse.
You Europeans have it good.
...., that sucks. Get yourself a media PC with a couple of DVB cards and Media Portal. Then you can again sit back in your sofa watching internet content through your TV.
Only in the contries where motorcycle racing is big. In the scandinavian countries it was unsellable and ended up on a premium sattelite package only. Another $60 a month for 50 channels where of 49 is uninteresting or overlapping my current package. I suspect the situation is much the same in many other contries.
Reminder to self: Set up cardsharing client. The satelite providers has ...... with me for the last time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>2. You're right. I would prefer to sit on the sofa with a beer and watch the races with friends. But for the record, I haven't watched a race on the tele since 2005 for better or worse.
...., that sucks. Get yourself a media PC with a couple of DVB cards and Media Portal. Then you can again sit back in your sofa watching internet content through your TV.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The BBC has confirmed that its MotoGP commentary team will remain unchanged for the 2009 season.
With Eurosport's long broadcasting agreement with MotoGP having come to an unpopular end last season, there had been speculation that some of the British Eurosport team - consisting of Toby Moody, Julian Ryder and Randy Mamola - might have joined the BBC for 2009, when it will become the exclusive MotoGP broadcaster on British television.
However, the BBC has decided to keep its existing line-up intact.
"Suzi Perry will be presenting with commentary coming from Steve Parrish and Charlie Cox and pit lane reports from Matt Roberts," said a report on the BBC website.
The BBC's exclusive deal has generated concern from fans regarding the amount of track action it will broadcast at each MotoGP weekend, compared with Eurosport's extensive coverage, particularly with the corporation also acquiring the rights to Formula One from this season.
The report stated that "Schedule times, channels and services will be provided for each [MotoGP] event in due course," but it seems that the MotoGP races will be shown live on BBC2, with qualifying and the 125/250cc races available via the 'Red Button' option for those with digital TV. No practice action is expected to be shown.
"The BBC Red Button will allow viewers to watch qualifying, then the 125cc and 250cc races and all the post-race reaction and interviews on MotoGP Extra," said the report.
"All the action will also be available on the BBC Sport website (UK users only) so you can watch the races if you cannot get to a TV.
"Or if you missed the race or simply just want to watch it again you can do so on our iPlayer service for seven days after it has happened."
What a load of ....!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The BBC has confirmed that its MotoGP commentary team will remain unchanged for the 2009 season.
With Eurosport's long broadcasting agreement with MotoGP having come to an unpopular end last season, there had been speculation that some of the British Eurosport team - consisting of Toby Moody, Julian Ryder and Randy Mamola - might have joined the BBC for 2009, when it will become the exclusive MotoGP broadcaster on British television.
However, the BBC has decided to keep its existing line-up intact.
"Suzi Perry will be presenting with commentary coming from Steve Parrish and Charlie Cox and pit lane reports from Matt Roberts," said a report on the BBC website.
The BBC's exclusive deal has generated concern from fans regarding the amount of track action it will broadcast at each MotoGP weekend, compared with Eurosport's extensive coverage, particularly with the corporation also acquiring the rights to Formula One from this season.
The report stated that "Schedule times, channels and services will be provided for each [MotoGP] event in due course," but it seems that the MotoGP races will be shown live on BBC2, with qualifying and the 125/250cc races available via the 'Red Button' option for those with digital TV. No practice action is expected to be shown.
"The BBC Red Button will allow viewers to watch qualifying, then the 125cc and 250cc races and all the post-race reaction and interviews on MotoGP Extra," said the report.
"All the action will also be available on the BBC Sport website (UK users only) so you can watch the races if you cannot get to a TV.
"Or if you missed the race or simply just want to watch it again you can do so on our iPlayer service for seven days after it has happened."
What a load of ....!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jan 19 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>NO WAY!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kez_91 @ Jan 19 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh
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it's ah right....
it's ah right....
What a complete load of ...... How the .... can they say it's free to air on the BBC when we have to pay the ....... license fee to watch it? It goes to prove, as it is with F1, that the people in charge haven't got a scooby. Looks like I'm going to have to watch it with the sound off instead of listening to those bunch of cs.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nomad @ Jan 19 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Looks like I'm going to have to watch it with the sound off instead of listening to those bunch of cs.
I might make up my own commentary.....i reckon it would be more entertaining
I might make up my own commentary.....i reckon it would be more entertaining
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kez_91 @ Jan 19 2009, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I might make up my own commentary.....i reckon it would be more entertaining
yes talking about cocks, balls, and bare chested men is what we all want
yes talking about cocks, balls, and bare chested men is what we all want
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jan 19 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes talking about cocks, balls, and bare chested men is what we all want
My commentary would be nothing like that!
but com'on, we all know that watching paint dry is more interesting than Parrish & Cox
My commentary would be nothing like that!
but com'on, we all know that watching paint dry is more interesting than Parrish & Cox
