Assen GP

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 25 2006, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not quite side by side, Katt.
looked pretty close from where i was sitting ... but the camera work was .... ... ill have to have a look at finish times

That`s my point. Tissot do some great work, they can always tell who got over the line first, and it wasn`t Crashey

One other thing to mention...and this isn't to wish any ill will....but if you are a superstitious type.....Hayden is the one guy that really hasn't had a string of bad luck, or an injury.....if he makes one slip, in any one of the nine remaining races...(still half the season to go folks)..things could change in a second. The way I look at it, he's got 4 guys in second place...give or take a couple points....if Hayden gets a DNF or hurts himself.....these guys will feast on him like wild animals...

imagine if Rossi had qualified in 12th or 13th.....he might have been knocking on Hayden's and Edwards door on the last few laps...

This season is hardly decided......bring it on.....its gonna be down to the wire....

I was thinking the same thing, Doc. Hayden is the last man standing after the bad luck plauge has attacked the front runners, but I didn`t want to say anything, because i`m starting to scare myself with bad luck predictions. And I don`t want that to happen to Nicky.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 25 2006, 04:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was thinking the same thing, Doc. Hayden is the last man standing after the bad luck plauge has attacked the front runners, but I didn`t want to say anything, because i`m starting to scare myself with bad luck predictions. And I don`t want that to happen to Nicky.

I hear ya....I hope we're both wrong....I hate when riders get hurt...I'd much rather see a head to head...healthy battle....

as for smiling just think back a few years rainey, schwantz, and at times doohan, they hated it being 2nd or 3rd,

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Jun 25 2006, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>as for smiling just think back a few years rainey, schwantz, and at times doohan, they hated it being 2nd or 3rd,


That's what I called "professional true racers". They race with the intention of only winning. Nothing will ever get them satisfied until they won. I think that explains why Dani isn't smiling a lot.......unless he won of course.

hey come on, whats all the banter about nicky being lucky,and about him picking up injuries,he won the race,and for rossi starting 13th and knocking on haydens door,dont think so he was 24secs off the pace at the end,and even rossi would not have pulled that back on nicky,rossi ran a good race,but hey before this season,when did rossi have any really bad luck,you cant win all the time,nicky's up there now so lets show some respect of where he is,at the top, and on a Honda. ??????

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Jun 25 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey come on, whats all the banter about nicky being lucky,and about him picking up injuries,he won the race,and for rossi starting 13th and knocking on haydens door,dont think so he was 24secs off the pace at the end,and even rossi would not have pulled that back on nicky,rossi ran a good race,but hey before this season,when did rossi have any really bad luck,you cant win all the time,nicky's up there now so lets show some respect of where he is,at the top, and on a Honda. ??????

agreed nicky drove very good yesterday, maybe this could be the push that he needed to start winning more races!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jun 25 2006, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>One other thing to mention...and this isn't to wish any ill will....but if you are a superstitious type.....Hayden is the one guy that really hasn't had a string of bad luck, or an injury.....if he makes one slip, in any one of the nine remaining races...(still half the season to go folks)..things could change in a second. The way I look at it, he's got 4 guys in second place...give or take a couple points....if Hayden gets a DNF or hurts himself.....these guys will feast on him like wild animals...

Another thing is that he now has a solid lead. This IS going to do something to his mind. He will start to think hard on that title. What that will do with his riding remains to be seen. It could go either way but I'd say a 60 - 40 that it will be negative.
In a fight he might back off because he can "afford" or way behind after a bad start he "must" take more spots than he can handle.
Any way, it's going to be interesting to watch.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Jun 25 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey come on, whats all the banter about nicky being lucky,

Simply fact.
- All the other main contenders has been taken out by others in turn 1, one or more times.
- Other riders injuries make his job so much easier.
- If Edwards had kept his head cold he could have walked in the victory by keeping the bike on the track at low speed as Hayden was far outside and would have recived a minimum penalty of one spot down ( if he gained a position by crossing the sand).
- Compared to previous seasons he has a bike that work every race while before his team has had a problem making the bike work.

This is more or less all events that he himself could not controll and all works grately to his favor. If thats not luck, then what is?

Part of that is not all luck but by stratgy and consistent driving thats true, but not all. He HAS been lucky. Nothing wrong with that really. Many championships has been won with the help of luck.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Jun 25 2006, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey come on, whats all the banter about nicky being lucky,and about him picking up injuries,he won the race,and for rossi starting 13th and knocking on haydens door,dont think so he was 24secs off the pace at the end,and even rossi would not have pulled that back on nicky,rossi ran a good race,but hey before this season,when did rossi have any really bad luck,you cant win all the time,nicky's up there now so lets show some respect of where he is,at the top, and on a Honda. ??????

Costa, you're not looking at that information the right way......that 24 seconds has nothing to do with PACE....you need to look at the individual lap times of each rider per lap to determine pace......buy the mid to end of the race, Nicky and Edwards were riding 1:38s, whereas Rossi was running high 1:37s....gaining.....
The 24s is just the natural time difference from running 1st to running 8th.....total time has nothing to do with pace.....Now like I said, if you start Rossi off in 12th on the grid, with his PACE.....he might have passed 10 riders starting from 12 instead of 18..... 12 minus 10 = 2......aka Nicky.
As for Hayden, he has been very consistent.....and that alone is why he is on top...and kudos for that, but remember....he is not the most skilled....if you take away consistency with a DNF.....he'll be beaten....

Hayden: 10 points
Stoner: 5 points
Suzuki: 6 points
Fastest Lap: 1 point

More importantly:
Hayden: $3 million
Stoner: $1.5 million
Suzuki: $1.2 million
Fastest Lap: $0.5 million

Overall, 22 points, and $6.2 million. Pretty good weekend I'd say.

if fit id like sumone to tell me in english how nicky would have won this race? and when i say fit i mean rossi... the yam is now on fire,, with a 46 lead its ok for u to say nicky this and that but cum on,,, now id say nicky has improved lots and is now the 2nn best in gp with his consistancy and yes that wins points,,, if things was on the other foot then uud bleat i bet,,,
on hayden id like to say he is way to easy to get past at the sharpe end,,
but hey thats my own veiw

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jun 25 2006, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Costa, you're not looking at that information the right way......that 24 seconds has nothing to do with PACE....you need to look at the individual lap times of each rider per lap to determine pace......buy the mid to end of the race, Nicky and Edwards were riding 1:38s, whereas Rossi was running high 1:37s....gaining.....
The 24s is just the natural time difference from running 1st to running 8th.....total time has nothing to do with pace.....Now like I said, if you start Rossi off in 12th on the grid, with his PACE.....he might have passed 10 riders starting from 12 instead of 18..... 12 minus 10 = 2......aka Nicky.
As for Hayden, he has been very consistent.....and that alone is why he is on top...and kudos for that, but remember....he is not the most skilled....if you take away consistency with a DNF.....he'll be beaten....

Honestly, Rossi could never win that race with his injury. He had one high 37 lap then settled for medium 38s if I remember right. I think he did the 37 when he did his last overtake or just after, but with none in sight he setteled back to his race pace of the day, 38's. Also look at how he strugeled in the start to find a "comfort" zone between pain and gain, how he went off the track trying to pass Capirossi and so on. If he was pushed he might have been able to get down to high 37s at the end of the race but that was about it.

On a different fora I guessed him in the top 10 if he didn't DNF and that checked out. The reason is that for what ever race pace you usually have, dropping only a few 10th's a lap put you into what feels like slow riding. Your brain suddenly have heaps of time to get the brake points and power curves just smoth and perfect and you feel it is real easy to ride that "slow" pace and you are surpriced of how fast you went in such a relaxed pace. That was about the pace Rossi could do in that race, enableing him to soften the ride and brace himself for the pain. Any faster and he would have to take impacts on the injury that wold paralyse him in pain as I suspect some manouvers in the first laps did. He could not afford another crash and luckily found a good pace to complete a fantastic race.

The race pace of the leaders on the other hand was 37.5. they were around that number all the race trhough except for in the end where they had the takeovers and misstakes so that was no match at all.

Hayden has been lucky and I doubt he could have won if Rossi was fit. But as they say, that`s racing. It`s not all about skill. Theres a lot of contributing factors, such as luck. Yes, Hayden`s been lucky, and he`s not as good a rider as Rossi week in, week out, but he`s still working his ass off. I`ve said before it`s not a two rider championship. It`s not like Hayden waits for Rossi to crash then glides to a win. He`s still gotta beat the rest of the grid too. And I think Edwards' performance this weekend is proof that while Rossi`s bad luck has made Hayden`s life a lot easier, it`s still no cake walk for him. He`s been working really hard trying to develop the RCV with HRC being indecisive this year, being the most consistent rider on the grid and, generally riding his ass off. Luck has blessed Hayden this season, but it`s still no holiday for him.

What a race!

All i want to say is that..... (and this is the gods honest truth)

After watching Colin crash at the last corner on the last lap. my heart sank. I nearly felt sick, honestly. That put me in a bad mood for the rest of the day. I snapped at my mum. i snapped at my girlfriend. I even think it lead to a headache i got later that day which caused me to stay in when i had arranged to go out. I was SO disapointed that Colin lost by, what must have been a few metres. SICK

Sick, sick sick i tell ya.....

Nicky deserved it. But not as much as Colin. I think the worst thing was that he lost after making the comeback of a lifetime. When he went dow that sliproad i thought "race over".

Both Colin AND nicky messed up that last corner.

Fair play to Nicky, but IMHO that last chicane was luck.

Good luck for Nicky, and BAD BAD luck for Colin.

(sob-sob)

Ps. Can i also just say fair play to Shinya and Dani EVEN THOUGH they must be the two most boring riders ever apart from Gregorio Lavilla and GLen RIchards.

Feel sorry for Edwards.

T'was a fantastic race & a valiant effort by the injured trio.

some pictures from the TT! I'll post more in the gallery section

the new corner! with melandri, hayden and edwards
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start and finish, from the new geert timmer tribune
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dick, me, jan, peter and dennis at the tribune. do you see how old these guys are
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stoner
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Lorenzo
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if you look very good you see hayden pulling a wheelie
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more pics in the gallery!

Nice!