Assen GP

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jova @ Jun 24 2006, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I agree he is not boring, its his personality, Dani doesn't show much emotion.Pedrosa is seriously pissed off with himself. His poor starts are the cause. He used to let others push during the first four or five laps until the tyres got hot, move up and lead the race in 250 cc. He can't do that in MotoGP because since Stoner and he landed in the class everyone is awaken and the first laps are riden knife in mouth. Then you have Melandri testing everyone's patience with his weird traces. Stoner and Pedrosa had to put up with that again in Assen.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (46marijke69 @ Jun 26 2006, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dick, me, jan, peter and dennis at the tribune. do you see how old these guys are
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Looks like you're the rose among the thorns. Dennis seemed pretty bored there, doesn't he?
Anyway, nice pics

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jun 25 2006, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Costa, you're not looking at that information the right way......that 24 seconds has nothing to do with PACE....you need to look at the individual lap times of each rider per lap to determine pace......buy the mid to end of the race, Nicky and Edwards were riding 1:38s, whereas Rossi was running high 1:37s....gaining.....
The 24s is just the natural time difference from running 1st to running 8th.....total time has nothing to do with pace.....Now like I said, if you start Rossi off in 12th on the grid, with his PACE.....he might have passed 10 riders starting from 12 instead of 18..... 12 minus 10 = 2......aka Nicky.
As for Hayden, he has been very consistent.....and that alone is why he is on top...and kudos for that, but remember....he is not the most skilled....if you take away consistency with a DNF.....he'll be beaten....
but he did'nt start from 13th,he started from the back of the grid,enough said me thinks,the IF factor is getting out of control. !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Jun 26 2006, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ps. Can i also just say fair play to Shinya and Dani EVEN THOUGH they must be the two most boring riders ever apart from Gregorio Lavilla and GLen RIchards.


I beg to differ. To me, the most boring riders right now would be Jose Cardoso and James Ellison. I don't think I need to explain why, a waste of breath really.

At least james is down to earth and speaks his mind, AND he's british!

Hasn't JE cracked some bones in his foot after that off during the race??

Nice shots 46marijke69, your grandstand looked kinda empty, was that on the Friday???

And did you see Ben & the Gang anywhere flying the forum flag

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ros @ Jun 26 2006, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Looks like you're the rose among the thorns. Dennis seemed pretty bored there, doesn't he?
Anyway, nice pics

actually, dennis was sleeping during the motogp practise!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dazza @ Jun 26 2006, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hasn't JE cracked some bones in his foot after that off during the race??

Nice shots 46marijke69, your grandstand looked kinda empty, was that on the Friday???

And did you see Ben & the Gang anywhere flying the forum flag

those pics on the big tribune were taken at friday, realy fantastic places to sit at. we're considering to order these places for next year

I haven't seen ben and matt no to bad, I did looked for them and the flags, but there were so many people at the track and in assen, it would have been pure luck if I did met them. next time we need to exchange phone numbers!!!

First and foremost, as a Nicky fan I'm really pumped about the win on European soil and the 25 points. But Ron really summed up my emotions when I watched the race. "Nicky deserved the win but Colin deserved it more." I couldn't have said it better myself. I was out of town so I had to watch it last night and I couldn't believe it. Half of me was cheering for Nicky to take that win and get those five extra points but the other half of me wanted Colin to win because it was the chance of a lifetime for him. Just like Ron, I felt pretty down after the race. But hats off to Nicky for the win and I think it's understood that there were no two better riders on the grid on Saturday than those two.

Super Shinya, hats off bud. I don't know what happened but he put it together. Solid rides from Pedrosa, Stoner and KRJR. Really felt bad for Hopper as well, sounds like the Suzuki is a bit worse for wear on tires than the rest. Heroic rides from Melandri, Rossi and Capirossi. All the best that they recover and are at least closer to 100% for Donny.

As far as all the luck talk goes, that's racing. You take the good with the bad. Everyone wants to talk about all the good luck Hayden is having this season as all his competitors keep crashing out or getting injured. If you want to win a title, you have to stay on the bike and Nicky has done that this season and his competition hasn't. Period. No one wants to talk about the unbelievably good luck Rossi has had each year in the premier class up until 2006. No one seems to mention Capirossi having a dismal run in 2004 and the first part of 2005 because Ducati couldn't get it sorted. No one wants to talk about Melandri's injury plagued seasons in 2003 and 2004. No one really talks about Nicky's 2004 season expect for the fact that it should have led to his departure from MotoGP. No one mentions him racing Brno on with a broken collarbone or his back to back mechanical failures. This 'luck' happens to every rider, be it good or bad. Nicky just happens to be enjoying a fortunate streak.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 26 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As far as all the luck talk goes, that's racing. You take the good with the bad. Everyone wants to talk about all the good luck Hayden is having this season as all his competitors keep crashing out or getting injured. If you want to win a title, you have to stay on the bike and Nicky has done that this season and his competition hasn't. Period. No one wants to talk about the unbelievably good luck Rossi has had each year in the premier class up until 2006. No one seems to mention Capirossi having a dismal run in 2004 and the first part of 2005 because Ducati couldn't get it sorted. No one wants to talk about Melandri's injury plagued seasons in 2003 and 2004. No one really talks about Nicky's 2004 season expect for the fact that it should have led to his departure from MotoGP. No one mentions him racing Brno on with a broken collarbone or his back to back mechanical failures. This 'luck' happens to every rider, be it good or bad. Nicky just happens to be enjoying a fortunate streak.
Bravo Ooost,take a bow,not luck,life. !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Jun 26 2006, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bravo Ooost,take a bow,not luck,life. !
Cheers bud.

very well said...Luck plays a big role with these riders. Like will the tires last or a back marker moving over properly..etc.

I was sick about Colin...at least Nicky kept it up on two wheels and was able to come in first.

It was a great race that also reminded me of the Schwantz -Rainey days.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ros @ Jun 26 2006, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I beg to differ. To me, the most boring riders right now would be Jose Cardoso and James Ellison. I don't think I need to explain why, a waste of breath really.

Dunno about Ellison, I've never really heard any interviews with him and I hardly know what he looks like. But can you blame me? I`m not in England and he`s not on the podium. So JE isnt getting much airtime where I am. How am I supposed to know the bloke？:lol: and I don`t know what Cardoso`s like as a person, but I know as a GP racer he`s a waste of space.
Dani does seem a bit boring, but the kid is under tons of pressure from almost everywhere. Spain wants him to beat Rossi, HRC wants him to beat Yamaha, Repsol want him to be champion and Katt wants him to get a lot of bad luck. Besides, I`d like to see how many of you could jump and dance around like Rossi does on international television.
Or has everyone forgot the robot theory? Honda are at the head of human-style robotics here in Japan. Maybe Dani is literally a machine. Everyone who`s anyone has seen Terminator 2. Arnie only has 18 lines in that movie. Dani is HRC`s lightweight compact terminator. built to win races, not to smile! Besides, he`s not as bad as that boring F1 driver. I forget his name, but he`s one of the well known ones. The F1 fans will know who I`m talking about. I remember him crashing out in Sepang and they asked him what happened and he said somthing like "My suspension broke"... that`s it. Pedrosa's not the least charismatic guy in international motorsport!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Jun 26 2006, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>At least james is down to earth and speaks his mind, AND he's british!


And who cares about that. He doesn't give me any thrill to watch him race at all. So hence, BORING is the right word to describe him right now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 27 2006, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Everyone who`s anyone has seen Terminator 2. Arnie only has 18 lines in that movie.


I can't believe you counted!

Ellison is a strange case.... i know very little about him. Doesn't seem to be able to run with the big boys .... and never has been able to step up to that plate. Same with Cardoso ... there seems to be a similarity there, both are consisently at the bottom end of the field...
anyone care to provide me with a background or overview on Ellison &/or Cardoso?...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 27 2006, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>...and Katt wants him to get a lot of bad luck

snot workin... and im paying the consequences

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 24 2006, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I hope Colins fire is lit!!!

It looked very like it, hopefully it'll make Nicky wake up for the rest of the season just as it did at Assen. It was a real joy to see Colin and Nicky looking so hungry for the win. I thought the last corner incident was quite funny really, nerves got the better of them and each rider was totally responsible for what happenned to them. Nicky just went a little too deep to make the turn and Colin was so worried about Nicky making a pass that he turned in too late to make the second apex, got on the gas a bit too eagerly in the wrong place, scrappy as a novice race. There's gonna be more of that this year.

Try this Kat ?
James Ellison/Profile.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 27 2006, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Besides, he`s not as bad as that boring F1 driver. I forget his name, but he`s one of the well known ones. The F1 fans will know who I`m talking about. I remember him crashing out in Sepang and they asked him what happened and he said somthing like "My suspension broke"... that`s it. Pedrosa's not the least charismatic guy in international motorsport!
I believe you're thinking of Kimi Raikkonen. He says very little to the press. Although he gets in the papers from time to time for having a bit too much fun on weekends off. Or so I've been told, we don't get the best F1 coverage/rumors here in the states.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Jun 27 2006, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ellison is a strange case.... i know very little about him. Doesn't seem to be able to run with the big boys .... and never has been able to step up to that plate. Same with Cardoso ... there seems to be a similarity there, both are consisently at the bottom end of the field...
Ellison is a bit of an odd case. He's a guy you really want to see succeed because he rode the wheels off that WCM and anyone who could do that competitively you would think has got some real talent. He just hasn't showcased it yet on the M1 this year. I get the feeling that it has to do with tires though. Checa was a regular top 10 guy on the factory Yam in 2004 and factory Duc in 2005 and now is regularly around 13th or worse and Ellison is generally only a place behind. Bit of a sad case really.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 27 2006, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>scrappy as a novice race. There's gonna be more of that this year.
I certainly hope so.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Jun 27 2006, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Try this Kat ?
James Ellison/Profile.

cheers .... im just being a lazy git

Ellison was pretty fast on the WCM, considering what a peice of .... it was. And low budget tech 3 M1`s on Dunlops ain`t the fastest bikes either, but even if he was on a competitive bike I`m not sure he`d be a frontrunner. Other Tech 3 graduates have done greater things in their time on the satellite M1, like Melandri and Elias, but that was back when Tech 3 was in a more financially secure postion, so I`m not sure. In my opinion the best Dunlop rider is definately Checa, because he proved last year that he`s can run with the fast guys, on a bridgestone Ducati, not an RCV. Next I`d say Hofmann, as an asset. He`s not the fastest guy, but he`s not the slowest either. He`s also pretty smart and a good guy to have in your pit if youre trying to develop a bike on a budget. Next I`d put Ellison. He did go fast on the WCM, and he might be able to prove himself worthy on a fast bike, but he hasn`t yet, so the jury`s still out on how good he actually is. And Cardoso is a distant last. Total waste of space, that guy.