Assen 2016

moto vudu said:

Were you not willing to talk some .... when you were replying to someone about Rossi? You only wanted to participate in mature discussions?

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Was I talking .... to you when I made the response to the particular poster? Nope. But you felt it was your appointed duty to defend VR.

michaelm said:

The Red flag conspiracy theory was rather disproved by RD re-starting the race.

Still doesn't exonerate you really though, since you basically are reduced to nit- picking details and spur of the moment reactions and positing moral equivalence between disparate events and pretending this disproves entire arguments which you ate unable to re-but.

As I have repeatedly said and you have repeatedly ignored it is fairly ludicrous for you to try to accuse a few individual posters on here of being conspiracy theorists in defending your boy Rossi given the overarching conspiracy theory your boy propounded to the world press at large last year rather than on an obscure Internet forum and from which he has not resolved.

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I ignored you before because I don't know why you think I can't argue the conspiracy theories put forth here because of what Rossi said last year. You guys are really reaching if you think this is more than entertainment for me. I got one browser tab on Game of Thrones forum and the other tab is here to bs about racing. This isn't serious bro.

JPSLotus said:

Was I talking .... to you when I made the response to the particular poster? Nope. But you felt it was your appointed duty to defend VR.

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No, you weren't initially talking suit to me... But I jumped in the argument the same way people jumped into ours when we were going back and forth.

povol said:

Yep, i didnt see the Marquez or Lorenzo fans celebrate Rossi's crash, didnt see anyone on this forum cheer when he went out, but the Rossi fans couldnt wait to flood the internet to discuss the worthiness of Lorenzo's occupation of a factory M1. It doesnt matter to them that he scored more points than Rossi or that he actually leads him in the championship, he didnt meet their standards while scoring six crucial points, but Rossi looked great crashing out. Boppers are so transparent, they obsess over the 3 riders who have kicked Rossi's ..., Stoners a weak minded quitter who didnt like to race, Lorenzo is a weak minded malcontent who stole Rossi's bike and conspired to cheat him out of a title, Marquez, they hate because he stole the spotlight, ripped down the curtain and exposed the great and powerful Oz, shattering just about every myth of how he loves a good scrap and how mentally tough he is. Rossi tried the tortoise and hare approach last year and it almost worked, this year he is trying to outrun faster riders and is making mental mistakes commonly known as choking, and cracking under pressure. Lorenzo and Marquez are clearly in his head.

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Well said. It's the same .... year after year where they have to tear down any other rider who is participating in the championship, or even those who no longer do as a way of propping up VR. I can't imagine being that insecure about the rider I support that no matter the race result, I have to tear down every other rider. 2015 was as legendary a choke job as 2006 was. He wasn't fast enough when it mattered, and you can see VR's approach this year has been to try and rectify this. He knew he wasn't fast enough, and that's what his smoke and mirrors ........ about MM was all about. The riding coach he hired was about trying to fix all of this, which I can appreciate and respect. But, it has him making mistakes he doesn't normally make now.

povol said:

Yep, i didnt see the Marquez or Lorenzo fans celebrate Rossi's crash, didnt see anyone on this forum cheer when he went out, but the Rossi fans couldnt wait to flood the internet to discuss the worthiness of Lorenzo's occupation of a factory M1. It doesnt matter to them that he scored more points than Rossi or that he actually leads him in the championship, he didnt meet their standards while scoring six crucial points, but Rossi looked great crashing out. Boppers are so transparent, they obsess over the 3 riders who have kicked Rossi's ..., Stoners a weak minded quitter who didnt like to race, Lorenzo is a weak minded malcontent who stole Rossi's bike and conspired to cheat him out of a title, Marquez, they hate because he stole the spotlight, ripped down the curtain and exposed the great and powerful Oz, shattering just about every myth of how he loves a good scrap and how mentally tough he is. Rossi tried the tortoise and hare approach last year and it almost worked, this year he is trying to outrun faster riders and is making mental mistakes commonly known as choking, and cracking under pressure. Lorenzo and Marquez are clearly in his head.

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You have never seen me celebrate a JL or MM crash. But, you don't find it a bit tough to act like you're somehow above a bopper when you're in the top 3 for conspiracy theories against Rossi?

povol said:

How convenient they red flagged the race when Rossi was about to be swamped by 3 more bikes.

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povol said:

And Rossi, he was about to be swallowed up by Marquez , Pedrosa and Crutchlow

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moto vudu said:

You have never seen me celebrate a JL or MM crash. But, you don't find it a bit tough to act like you're somehow above a bopper when you're in the top 3 for conspiracy theories against Rossi?

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Those are factual statements

actually it wouldnt surprise me if rossi wins like 5 in a row or something. best bike best rider best pace.

Casey will be participating in the test at Misano this week.

MotoGP News - MotoGP: Casey Stoner to test at Misano

I bet stoner is hiding a comeback!

Should be interesting to see if he is doing development work on the GP16 or if they will have him working on the GP17. My guess is with the winglet ban, they need to start getting the GP17 squared away now for Lorenzo since they're losing that facet of the bike.

imunderandoverit said:

I bet stoner is hiding a comeback!

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He isn't coming back.

JPSLotus said:

Should be interesting to see if he is doing development work on the GP16 or if they will have him working on the GP17. My guess is with the winglet ban, they need to start getting the GP17 squared away now for Lorenzo since they're losing that facet of the bike.

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Although I'm sure Ducati would like to continue working on the GP16 in hopes of getting a win this season. It makes sense to me to focus on the GP17 in hopes of getting multiple wins next season.

JPSLotus said:

Should be interesting to see if he is doing development work on the GP16 or if they will have him working on the GP17. My guess is with the winglet ban, they need to start getting the GP17 squared away now for Lorenzo since they're losing that facet of the bike.

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And i believe they started using them right so they could have more control of the bike while braking from the high speed straights right??

imunderandoverit said:

And i believe they started using them right so they could have more control of the bike while braking from the high speed straights right??

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Mainly wheelie control, but i guess it helps in braking as well. That wont be a factor to Lorenzo as he is an early braker who doesnt generate forces on the front tire that it cant handle.

birdman said:

Doing your damn best to make him sound like a 'coward'. Running away scared of big bad Marq.

BTW you are working very hard at making the guy who rode what was almost universally agreed on to be the hardest machine on the grid requiring the biggest set to ride to the limit to a number of wins, a 'coward'.

Nice try, we all know who lacked the courage to ride the Duc to the limit. No hang on that's something you would say, its not lacking the courage or being a coward he simply didn't have the talent.

To match.

His ambition.

No shame in that.

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Moreover by Vudu's yardstick, after Ducati poured millions of Euros into the bike to make it fit the specifications of "The Best Bike Developer In MotoGp" - Rossi left them in the lurch without a single win, Rossi would qualify as the "The World's Biggest Quitter". Not only was he was too cowardly to ride the bike at it's limit, but he was too mentally weak to adapt his riding style to the bike.

I like how it's come down to what could be done on a Ducati.

Lorenzo' up next. Wc titles v's results on the duc.

Just cam across this comment which is said to be from Jack Miller to a journalist after he (Miller) had driven to Assen with his MX bike in the back so he coudl have a little fun.



Quote; "If youse see me next week with a broken leg you'll know what happened..."



The kid has humour, irony and humour

I thought he might stay off it for a while now.

Have to admit, following his Instagram account. He seems like he is having a great time and loves riding.

moto vudu said:

I ignored you before because I don't know why you think I can't argue the conspiracy theories put forth here because of what Rossi said last year. You guys are really reaching if you think this is more than entertainment for me. I got one browser tab on Game of Thrones forum and the other tab is here to bs about racing. This isn't serious bro.

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I am well aware of what you are doing, which is arguing for the fun of it, which is what most of those you oppose are also doing.

I was merely pointing out the weakness of your case in terms of most of what you have argued on this thread ie drawing moral equivalence between Suzuki remarking on a tow from a future team-mate currently in their employ being involved in Rossi's pole by a small margin at Mugello, and the lack of comment about a pole won by 0.715 seconds by someone who is not Rossi's future team-mate next year at Assen, of taking issue with a few posters on here for "hating" Rossi when in the wider world actual hatred of MM and Lorenzo including cheering of crashing by them is massively greater, and most of all calling posters on here on being conspiracy theorists when your boy has alleged a massive conspiracy to the world press, and has far from withdrawn said allegations. Unless and until he does, those of your allegiance are not in much of a position to complain about conspiracy theories I wouldn't have thought.

I do have occasional things with which I take genuine umbrage, questioning the courage or toughness of a man who raced 2 days after having a clavicular fracture plated being one of them, although that was more Paps than you.

(EDIT I read the Game of Thrones books as they came out, and amusingly was asked on visits to the USA 15 years ago why I was reading such stupid long books. In general the show has been better than the books, although I am not sure in more ways than one about where it is all going now with the show advancing past the books. Jumkie was a big GOT fan btw.)

Gaz said:

Miller gets emotional, and a great sportsmanship and mate effort at the end from Cal

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Jesus h ....... buddha.
Did Dorna really block a non race video. How pathetic is this organization