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I went back and checked as well, I don't see the light on at the start. Easy to notice when looking for it, but I certainly didn't notice while watching the race live and nobody here noticed and posted anything either. Who knows when RD was aware of it or what the exact reason for it not functioning. If the rules say the rider shouldn't be penalized if the light is out due to a technical malfunction, RD should be certain before they black flag anyone. Again, you cannot undo a black flag penalty if it turns out later that the rider shouldn't have been penalized.

An inop rain light is not equivalent to monsoon conditions & flooded track. Easier to notice the standing water on track and the crashes than a rain light that isn't illuminated on one of the bikes.
 
Jorge is very lucky to have walked away with any points. I mean Kudos for staying on when so many fell off, but LAST place on a ....... factory Yam?

I'd almost rather crash.
 
Had to be a bit surreal for Rabat and Pirro to catch and pass Lorenzo.

Rabat: Lorenzo! What are you doing back here?
Lorenzo: Ssshh! Hey man! Did you see a scary monster in turn 3 or is just me? I swear there's something out here on track with us! Zombies or some ....... lets slow down bro.
 
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Those two "dogs" actually finished the race unlike your hero who crashed out.

Lets not even bring up where your hero is. We know he didn't fall unless he tripped over a loose cable in pit lane.

Stoner: As official test rider I have determined that this loose cable running across our garage is a hazard and should be adjusted.
 
I'm not dreaming. Marquez does not have the championship won before the halfway point of the season. If motorsports was so predictable that you just knew for sure MM will podium from here on out with no issues... most of us wouldn't even watch.



Just like he almost kissed the tarmac in FP3, he can have a major problem in an upcoming race.



Wasn't George down double digit points at about this point last year?


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Wasn't George down double digit points at about this point last year?


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I believe Jorge turned things around for himself starting at Jerez last year. He still has time this year to get into a groove, but wouldn't be a surprise if rains or is damp next round at Sachsenring. He's going to need to make some adjustments.
 
Lets not even bring up where your hero is. We know he didn't fall unless he tripped over a loose cable in pit lane.

Stoner: As official test rider I have determined that this loose cable running across our garage is a hazard and should be adjusted.

Stoner's record against Rossi in the premier class is quite well documented, and he vastly exceeded anything Rossi did over the same time period. After all did Rossi win on a Ducati? I also don't recall Stoner threatening to quit if he wasn't given the tires of another manufacturer. Nice try though. I don't attach my enjoyment of this sport to the success of one man the way you and others of your ilk do.
 
Stoner's record against Rossi in the premier class is quite well documented, and he vastly exceeded anything Rossi did over the same time period. After all did Rossi win on a Ducati? I also don't recall Stoner threatening to quit if he wasn't given the tires of another manufacturer. Nice try though. I don't attach my enjoyment of this sport to the success of one man the way you and others of your ilk do.

But who DID quit?
 
But who DID quit?

False equivalence argument, hello.

Stoner didn't quit, he retired.

Yes...there is a difference between the two even though you likely don't want to believe this.

It amuses me how Stoner is still in your head and he hasn't raced competitively in nearly 4 years.
 
False equivalence argument, hello.

Stoner didn't quit, he retired.

Yes...there is a difference between the two even though you likely don't want to believe this.

It amuses me how Stoner is still in your head and he hasn't raced competitively in nearly 4 years.

He quit. He quit on himself and hit quit on his fans. He robbed you of a chance to get to see him compete against Marquez. Now all you have left is to make excuses for him. Can't be one of the great ones without longevity. Rossi still adding chapters to his story, even if you hate him you can't get deny that he still tests his skills vs the best in the world. Stoner is irrelevant, he is a brand ambassador for Ducati. Maybe they'll put him in a commercial for the Panigale, but perhaps he's not even relevant or marketable enough for that.
 
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Valentino Rossi was bitterly disappointed to throw away a golden chance to claim points on his MotoGP title rivals at Assen on Sunday.

Fast all weekend, the Italian was holding third when a rain storm forced the original race to be halted.

The Movistar Yamaha rider than charged into the lead on the first lap of a 12-lap restart an was starting to pull away. But it counted for nothing when he slid from his M1 on lap 3.

“It is a great shame, because today was a good chance to make a good result and take some important points for the championship. In the dry I had a good pace, but also in the wet I was not so bad,” began Rossi, speaking in the paddock on Sunday evening.

“I think it was right to red flag the first race because the amount of water was too much and it began to get very dangerous. The bike started to aquaplane a lot and you couldn't see anything behind another bike.

“But I felt good and I had a good pace. So for the second part we put the soft rear tyre [instead of the hard] and it felt even better. I had a good start and I tried to go fast because with the soft rear I had a lot more grip.

“But I did a mistake. I was too fast. I pushed too hard. It was too much. It was a stupid mistake unfortunately and I'm very sorry for all the team because today we can win.”

Rossi explained that the accident occurred because the extra grip from the soft rear tyre meant he arrived at Turn 10 faster than expected and should have braked earlier to compensate.

“We put the soft in the second part of the race and in Turn 9 I was a lot faster because I can open the throttle earlier and I arrive at Turn 10 and brake in the same point. But I arrived 4-5 km/h faster and I lost the front.”

The Doctor was visibly frustrated after the accident and admitted it was tough to leave Assen with zero points after producing such a strong performance until the error.

“All weekend, I was always very precise in the riding style and I never make a mistake because all the other guys make mistakes, crash and everything,” he said. “But unfortunately I made the mistake in the most important moment.

“I couldn't hear the noise of the other riders, so I already I had a good advantage [in the lead]. On lap 2 I saw 49.3 on my pit board so I say 'I want to push another lap to take advantage and after try to control the situation'. But unfortunately the mistake was that I pushed too hard.

“When you lose a race like this is a shame. I try to restart but unfortunately the guys don't help me a lot! But anyway already the disaster was the same, maybe [I could get] one point.”
Although only 13 riders finished the race and Rossi's team-mate Jorge Lorenzo struggled to tenth, world championship leader Marc Marquez claimed a hefty 20 points for second place.

“I am very sorry, especially for the championship, because we had an advantage compared to the others and could gain some important points - especially on Lorenzo, who was in difficulty this weekend, but of course against Marquez. And now all is more difficult because the advantage of Marquez is quite big.”

Rossi is now 42 points behind Honda's Marquez and 18 from Lorenzo as the championship reaches its midway stage at Sachsenring next time out. Marquez has finished every race (although he fell in France), while Lorenzo has two DNFs and Rossi three.

“I think that one '0', my mistake in Austin, you can put in account,” Rossi said. “But this one is a problem for the championship. Especially if you add the '0' in Mugello for the engine.

“But you know, is not finished until it's finished. Now we have just to try the best every race track, try to be competitive every weekend. The championship is long. We will see.”

Although there wasn't much for Rossi to smile about on Sunday, a shock victory for Jack Miller was the notable exception.

“The victory of Jack is the only good thing of today for me,” Rossi declared. “Because we have a good relationship. I like him a lot. I love it when he drinks from the boot [on podium]!

“I'm very happy for him. He deserves it after the injury at the beginning of the year. He is a great guy and I think he has a good talent. He risked a lot to go to MotoGP. I don't know if it was the right choice, from my point of view, but with the victory of today maybe he is right and I am wrong!”
Read more at MotoGP News - MotoGP Netherlands: Valentino Rossi: ?A stupid mistake?
 
He quit. He quit on himself and hit quit on his fans. He robbed you of a chance to get to see him compete against Marquez. Now all you have left is to make excuses for him. Can't be one of the great ones without longevity. Rossi still adding chapters to his story, even if you hate him you can't get deny that he still tests his skills vs the best in the world. Stoner is irrelevant, he is a brand ambassador for Ducati. Maybe they'll put him in a commercial for the Panigale, but perhaps he's not even relevant or marketable enough for that.

Quit on himself?

Talk to Mike, the Australian dream is different from the American dream.

Rossi is a glory boy much like his fans are as you've just illustrated with what reads as a vigorous defense and justification for why Rossi is so great.

Your ignorance is quite well documented here, and your attachment to the idea that his longevity is a key part of his greatness, even though any unbiased observer would tell you his longevity was made possible because of the commercial considerations of his fanbase first and foremost.

In any event, Wayne Rainey competed in 500cc for not even 6 full seasons. He won 3 championships in 5 full seasons, and was on his way to making it 4 titles in 6 seasons when fate said otherwise. Yet in spite of his lack of longevity, he is one of "the great ones". There's more to it than longevity. As usual, you being one who has bought into all of Rossi's marketing ........ have now come to the ill-informed conclusion that greatness can only be achieved with longevity. Greatness is not defined by solely longevity. It can be a component of it, but not all situations are equal, so it's not the only determining factor.

The trouble with Rossi fans is they think GP history began in the year 2000.
 
Rainey was forced out of the sport due to injury. Stoner was young, healthy, and still competitive. He quit.
 
watching the telly!

I was watching full race coverage with no commercials and their were no interviews with riders during the brief lull between the red flag and the restart. I'll assume you were watching Sky TV or something like that - and even so, there's no way in such a short time while riders were taking fluids and discussing set-up and tire options for leg two, that they got access to every single garage and interviewed every single rider from the grid to get a 100% unanimous agreement from all the riders.
 
Rainey was forced out of the sport due to injury. Stoner was young, healthy, and still competitive. He quit.

You're still a fool who has been proven wrong countless times.

It doesn't matter how he was forced out since by your own moronic claims, you think longevity determines greatness because you bought lock, stock, and barrel into the marketing myth surrounding Valentino Rossi. Again, there is a difference between quitting and retiring.

It's embarrassing to watch you flailing about like every other bopper who sees the world through yellow-tinted glasses. Keep crawfishing.
 
JPS,

Marquez would've broken Stoner for good if he didn't quit. Seriously, Stoner wouldn't even show his face back at the paddock once Marquez got through with him. Stoner never liked close racing and having to battle it out, Marquez would've drove him mad and sent him packing to never be seen again.
 

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