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Alarm bells for MotoGP

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Alarm bells for MotoGP

Mon Feb 15 09:03AM

No, no, no, no!

It was Vitto Guareschi that started a few alarm bells ringing over the past week.

The Ducati MotoGP team manager was going through the big changes to the bike that Ducati are putting out in this year's championship. He was very proud about the development of the machine as he pointed out that the engine, forks, rear, swingarm and electronics were new.

This, he was at pains to point out, was virtually an all-new bike. Reading between the lines it all sounds like a manager who is at length to point out the amount of work they need to do in not much time.

Then there are the comments of Dani Pedrosa's chief mechanic Mike Leitner, who said that the Honda is getting new suspension for this year and is still chasing the balance issue that dogged Dani last year.

He said: "The biggest difference from the 2009 bike is the change in suspension. We will use Öhlins suspension this year so we have to work hard to find the correct setting for that.

"We have to improve the general performance of the bike. We have a handicap in braking and turning so we need to try and find a better balance in the bike with the chassis set-up. We are modifying our engine control so we're working hard on this.

"The tests have started so it will be a very busy workload to manage and fix everything in the six test days before the first race in Qatar."

Doesn't sound very happy with his lot there, does he?

Then we hear that Nicky Hayden has had to go under the knife to remove scar tissue build up after an earlier operation to try and help him get over arm-pump issues. Oh yes, the team assured us that this wasn't a big deal and that Nicky would be back at the Sepang test at the end of this month, but it's still another operation on his right arm. His throttle arm.

But at least Nicky will make the test, how he'll deal with the psychological effects of two pretty big operations on his arm over the winter remains to be seen though.

Jorge Lorenzo will have more to worry about now though because he's fallen off a bike during a motocross session near his place in Montmelo. Reports suggest that Lorenzo was only doing about 20mph when he fell but that in the spill he fractured the base of the first metacarpal and 'displaced' his thumb.

He's had to have a titanium plate put into his hand. His right hand. His throttle hand. More problems for the Spaniard and another psychological problem for one of the top men to overcome as the season edges nearer.

So in the past week we've heard about the radical changes to the Ducati and all the work that Casey Stoner will have to do with it, the problems still facing the Honda and Dani Pedrosa, Nicky Hayden's arm surgery and Jorge Lorenzo's smashed up hand which is going to force him to miss the next test.

And what about Valentino Rossi and his Yamaha? How's he feeling right now?

We only have to look at the Sepang test where he bossed everyone from the top of the timesheets. Vale said: "Even the second day was been very good as well, even though we lost a few hours to the rain, and by the end we were still able to finish all our work. We worked on the new bike to find a better setting and I was happy to be the fastest overall - even though this is just testing, this is important for me!"

And now he's off for an award in Dubai (probably).

Blimey, just when it looks like everyone is gearing up for a really good season in MotoGP, with five or six riders strong from the off, they all suddenly look like they're tripping over themselves in their rush to hand Rossi another psychological advantage.

Casey was fast at the Sepang test after all, so let's hope that some of the changes have already been sorted on the Ducati.

But right now, this is a bit of a worry as far as the start of the season goes.

Let's hope they are all back soon and as strong as ever. Let's not have our MotoGP fun spoiled by these mechanical and physical issues.

Fingers crossed for a brilliantly hectic and close start to the MotoGP season

clicky



some good points.lets see what pans out
 
Wouldn't it be funny if Ducati and Honda come out and smash Yamaha at the start of the season after lulling Yamaha into a false sense of security during testing.

I can just hear the Ducati and Honda briefs before each test, "Now guys no one is allowed to top the time sheets in any session. In all media conferences you are to say that we are having balance issues and hope to have it sorted by the 3rd round."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 15 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wouldn't it be funny if Ducati and Honda come out and smash Yamaha at the start of the season after lulling Yamaha into a false sense of security during testing.

I can just hear the Ducati and Honda briefs before each test, "Now guys no one is allowed to top the time sheets in any session. In all media conferences you are to say that we are having balance issues and hope to have it sorted by the 3rd round."


Dream on, it ain't gonna happen!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Feb 15 2010, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dream on, it ain't gonna happen!
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bonnielass - let them dream - that's the best that is ever going to happen for them
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 15 2010, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then there are the comments of Dani Pedrosa's chief mechanic Mike Leitner, who said that the Honda is getting new suspension for this year and is still chasing the balance issue that dogged Dani last year.

He said: "The biggest difference from the 2009 bike is the change in suspension. We will use Öhlins suspension this year so we have to work hard to find the correct setting for that.
You'd think they could forceably access all Depuniet's data from last year. I suppose with so many changes to the bike this year they have to start from scratch - but I'd have thought that some fundamental base settings for each circuit could be gleaned from LCR. Perhaps the 'Chech' ain't playing ball.

Also, come to think of it, didn't Dovi bin Showa midway through last season?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 15 2010, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wouldn't it be funny if Ducati and Honda come out and smash Yamaha at the start of the season after lulling Yamaha into a false sense of security during testing.

I can just hear the Ducati and Honda briefs before each test, "Now guys no one is allowed to top the time sheets in any session. In all media conferences you are to say that we are having balance issues and hope to have it sorted by the 3rd round."
I think yamaha and rossi are well aware of mind games and misinformation, geez the have been in the game long enough
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After reading that sorry excuse for an article, two things jump to mind:

1) Carter's not a very good journalist.
2) It must be a damn slow news week in the MotoGP universe.
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The guy mentions "psychological effects" about a dozen times. What a crock! Someone like Haystack isn't going to be phased by a minor operation that probably lasted all of 20 minutes and required one or two stitches to close. Likewise, Lorezno's hand won't have the slightest effect on his head (but I do worry that the missed test session will set him back.) As for Pedrosa... well, he was never going to mix it up with the genuine Aliens anyway.
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YIKES!! Maybe not!

So much for my "One or two stitches to close!" horseshit!
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I though they went in through a tiny opening, and snipped and cut only where necessary. Instead they rip his whole frigging arm open!

Is his BAD ... scar from the original surgery, or the recent scar tissue cleanup?

scar.jpg
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Feb 16 2010, 05:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>YIKES!! Maybe not!

So much for my "One or two stitches to close!" horseshit!
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(You'd think I'd get tired of talking out my ...?! Guess not!
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I though they went in through a tiny opening, and snipped and cut only where necessary. Instead they rip his whole frigging arm open!

Is his BAD ... scar from the original surgery, or the recent scar tissue cleanup?
When was the picture taken? The "bad ... scar" looks like a recent not yet healed surgical wound.

My understanding is that they now mostly do the arm-pump/compartment syndrome surgery with keyhole surgery but the old technique involved a quite extensive incision. I read somewhere that nicky had the recent surgery to clear up some adhesions from previous surgery in which case they may have needed an extensive incision which will likely take longer to heal but should not impede him by the time the racing starts.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Two thirds of the participants on this forum will become extinct and the British GP will revert to its former attendance comprising one man and a dog, an ice cream van, and a few ancient crusty's in denim cut offs festooned with enamel badges, and embroidered 'heron' and 'BSA' patches.
Fantastic stuff, Arrab.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 15 2010, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You'd think they could forceably access all Depuniet's data from last year. I suppose with so many changes to the bike this year they have to start from scratch - but I'd have thought that some fundamental base settings for each circuit could be gleaned from LCR. Perhaps the 'Chech' ain't playing ball.

Also, come to think of it, didn't Dovi bin Showa midway through last season?
I can't imagine Honda getting shafted for data from a satellite team. If Chech is withholding information, this would likely be the last year of him running Hondas. And RdP would be out in the cold. And yes, Dovi made the switch midway through 2009.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 16 2010, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When was the picture taken? The "bad ... scar" looks like a recent not yet healed surgical wound.

My understanding is that they now mostly do the arm-pump/compartment syndrome surgery with keyhole surgery but the old technique involved a quite extensive incision. I read somewhere that nicky had the recent surgery to clear up some adhesions from previous surgery in which case they may have needed an extensive incision which will likely take longer to heal but should not impede him by the time the racing starts.
I believe the picture was taken on Saturday night. His previous scarring on that arm was noticeable but not quite this big, or at least I don't remember it being this big. I don't think it will have any psychological effects on him but it may take some time to regain strength. Shouldn't be much of a problem by the start of the season I wouldn't think.
 

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