a couple of questions about the valencia race

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Nov 5 2006, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if these points have been discussed than im sorry but i haven't seen it anywhere.
firstly was rossi's bad start, what i sore was rossi's front wheel fly up then crash back down,eurosport commentator just called it a bobble, has anybody heard anything about this, was it rider error or some launch control problem.

second was where nicky appeared to touch vale twice in lap 2 i think it was.im suprised this was not talked about concidering estoril.
im NOT hayden bashing,it just seemed like his bike was pulling hard to the right.any insight or comments welcome.




i dunno bout seein hayden bash rossi, but i notice he starts reeli well in practices but then in races, he messes it up wiv the launch control lots

i think he just ...... his start up to be honest.. Hayden did brush againts Rossi on the home straight just after the ".... start" ... but, nothing major otherwise.. it just wasnt our mans day Roger!

I thought Rossi spun the tire off the start and then bobbled alittle.Hayden seemed to be so fixated on Rossi he broke to the right when he could have had a clear shot behind TB. Didn't see anything else between the two. Not trying to hijack the thread but I was suprised no comment was made on the pass Pedrosa made on Marco and then blew wide allowing Marco and Stoner to come back through. It was a similar line that took out Hayden and he has done it multiple times this year. Every once in a while he seems to have 250 flashbacks and arrive with way to much corner speed.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V8GUZZI @ Nov 5 2006, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought Rossi spun the tire off the start and then bobbled alittle.Hayden seemed to be so fixated on Rossi he broke to the right when he could have had a clear shot behind TB. Didn't see anything else between the two. Not trying to hijack the thread but I was suprised no comment was made on the pass Pedrosa made on Marco and then blew wide allowing Marco and Stoner to come back through. It was a similar line that took out Hayden and he has done it multiple times this year. Every once in a while he seems to have 250 flashbacks and arrive with way to much corner speed.

lol

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Nov 5 2006, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if these points have been discussed than im sorry but i haven't seen it anywhere.
firstly was rossi's bad start, what i sore was rossi's front wheel fly up then crash back down,eurosport commentator just called it a bobble, has anybody heard anything about this, was it rider error or some launch control problem.

second was where nicky appeared to touch vale twice in lap 2 i think it was.im suprised this was not talked about concidering estoril.
im NOT hayden bashing,it just seemed like his bike was pulling hard to the right.any insight or comments welcome.



As far as the start is concerned Rossi said the following in the post race interview:

"Unfortunately, I think I lost the championship on the start, because the red was on a little longer than normal, and I made a mistake."

Having watched the replay Hayden definitely touched Rossi just after the start but I didn't see any other contact after that. Maybe I need to watch it again

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Nov 5 2006, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>second was where nicky appeared to touch vale twice in lap 2 i think it was.im suprised this was not talked about concidering estoril.

"appeared"

I just reviewed the tape. They had 2 views of this, if you see the view from Rossi's onboard camera, it looks like Hayden brushes up. (that's because Rossi's bike is the point of reference.) But if you look at the helicoper view, you see Rossi going into Hayden's line from that bobble start. I wouldn't read to much into it, but you never know. Perhaps Hayden was saying, "I'm here, let ride."

actually, i did see hayden bash rossi, but i dont think that it woz too bad