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2021 Red Bull Ring - Spielberg Austria MotoGp

warthog1 said:
Pedrosa did do well in the restart [emoji41]
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Really happy the rules allowed for him to re-start, even if it was him that caused the black flag. I'd have liked to have seen more of him during the race, to see how he's adapted to the bike. Glad he wasn't injured. Got friggin' tired of commentators referring to him as The Tiny Samurai. What a nitwit nickname. Maybe the riders should refer to those two as The Snaggle-Toothed Warm-Beer-Drinking Limeys.
 
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Keshav said:
Really happy the rules allowed for him to re-start, even if it was him that caused the black flag. I'd have liked to have seen more of him during the race, to see how he's adapted to the bike. Glad he wasn't injured. Got friggin' tired of commentators referring to him as The Tiny Samurai. What a nitwit nickname. Maybe the riders should refer to those two as The Snaggle-Toothed Warm-Beer-Drinking Limeys.
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Was a rather uneventful, yet entirely captivating race to watch. Miller had Qartararo's measure late, just fluffed the corner pushing at the wrong time. He just can't make that final little step that creates a championship charge.

Mir had something for Martin, but never eventuated, brilliant ride from Binder.

Very happy Pedrosa and Salvadori weren't seriously injured.

Great ride for Pedders, top 10 after almost three years away.

Kesh, I was of the impression Pedrosa embraced the Little Samurai nickname, even having a samurai picture on his helmet at one stage.
 

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Keshav said:
Really happy the rules allowed for him to re-start, even if it was him that caused the black flag. I'd have liked to have seen more of him during the race, to see how he's adapted to the bike. Glad he wasn't injured. Got friggin' tired of commentators referring to him as The Tiny Samurai. What a nitwit nickname. Maybe the riders should refer to those two as The Snaggle-Toothed Warm-Beer-Drinking Limeys.
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Is it possible for you to make a post, without judging or looking down on someone. Why do you watch, if you can’t even show admiration, and respect for people risking their lives.
It’s no surprise you are showing that you know nothing about motorbikes and motorbike racing.

BLACK FLAG
This flag is shown together with a number that corresponds to a rider, meaning that the rider must immediately return to the pit.

Maybe you should start learning on a bicycle, instead of a Grom, or a scooter.
I worry about you on a motorbike. You don’t seem able to grasp simple concepts

What a shame the race was RED flagged. There was a great race in the works before Dani lit the fuse. What a daft rule that allows a rider, that caused a RED flag, and BBQ’d his bike to restart.

The Ducati riders are the story of the season. Numerous guys that are fighting for podiums and wins. None of them named Rossi, so sadly noone here mentions them. Jack is the weak link there. Is this his fourth crash this year?

Nice resurgence by Mir. Rim tape and all, he rode a great race. I would love to see him start pressuring Fabio in the second half.
I was hoping for a bit more from the KTM’s at their home track. I’m a big fan of Oliveira and Binder but their inconsistency is puzzling.

I’m convinced, The artist formerly known as Marquez is gone. I just don’t see that edge anymore. He’s morphed back into the former more dangerous version of himself, without the speed.
 
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Barbedwirebikerr said:
Kesh, I was of the impression Pedrosa embraced the Little Samurai nickname, even having a samurai picture on his helmet at one stage.
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Yes. You were under the correct impression. Keshav knows .... all about bikes.

This is general knowledge from people that watch MotoGP or ride motorbikes. You can’t walk into a retailer, or go to the helmet section of an online retailer and not see the little samurai helmet.
Not to mention, if you watched a Moto GP race in the last 15 years, you would certainly know this.
 
Dani can take whatever nickname he likes I guess.
A pretty tough bugger
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Great race and although there wasn't a huge amount of action, it was engrossing because Martin was onroute to his first victory with Mir pressuring just behind, and those merciless track limits to watch out for.

  • Great win for Martin. Zarco must be banging his head in frustration. So close, and yet, his rookie teammate does it, coming back from injury and on his 6th race start. A feat such as this is typically followed by further success.
  • Happy to see Mir fighting at the front. Good race.
  • Fabio - championship ride from him. His campaign has been excellent so far.
  • Good comeback from Binder.
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  • Miller - Awe shucks. Inconsistent. He will likely end up being a race winner only.
  • Maverick will likely need a psychologist to get him out of his mental state.
  • M Marquez needs to tone it down a notch, I think. A tiny notch. :)
  • Tough break for Bagnaia
  • A Espargaro must be fuming and I can't say I blame him.

They are really tight on track limits in race conditions. Martins tyre was on the border, at the limit, and that was counted as exceeding the limit. :cold:
 
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Would have to agree with most of what has been said.

Martín great, shows the Ducatis could have all done well here. I was actually impressed Miller was looking so steady stalking Fabio and when i started cheering for him to pass he just threw it down, C'mon man!!

Mir awesome ride, the bike looked really aggressive exiting corners all low, wouldn't that destroy the tires significantly more? ( I clearly don't know that's why I am asking)


Fabio did well, seems like a natural 4th place had Miller not ...... it up but Maybe Fabio still had something.

Marc is in complete ....... mode & all his antics are unnecessary, especially so soon in the race twice in a race, if he was winning every race maaaaybe this could get a pass but he's causing chaos and then running around mid pack or worse.

Dani did well considering he ...... it up first, top 10 finish and no broken collarbones is a good weekend for Dani, odd he was allowed back but the rule does say if less than 3 laps were made the grid remains unchanged.

Mav.....what to say really, he stalled the bike & I am pretty sure he stalled it while going too soft thinking I am gonna do a great race and prove people wrong, I got this.

Has Aleix not attacked Marc yet? he must be fuuuuuming.
 
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Barbedwirebikerr said:
Was a rather uneventful, yet entirely captivating race to watch. Miller had Qartararo's measure late, just fluffed the corner pushing at the wrong time. He just can't make that final little step that creates a championship charge.

Mir had something for Martin, but never eventuated, brilliant ride from Binder.

Very happy Pedrosa and Salvadori weren't seriously injured.

Great ride for Pedders, top 10 after almost three years away.

Kesh, I was of the impression Pedrosa embraced the Little Samurai nickname, even having a samurai picture on his helmet at one stage.
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Well he does have the samurai decal on the helmet, but (and I'm not a politically correct person) no short person wants to constantly be singled out for being small. If you're a rider you want to be recognized for your accomplishment as a rider. To use that phrase over and over ad infinitum is just hackey and lazy on the part of the commentator. It's like when Rossi was still hot and 150 times per race they would refer to him as 9-times-world-champion Valentino Rossi. You can be sure when Dani is at a corporate meeting with KTM he doesn't go around shaking hands and saying, Hi - I'm the Tiny Samurai. When he's with his crew, the guys who know him call him Dani and those who don't call him Mr. Pedrosa.
 
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Keshav said:
Well he does have the samurai decal on the helmet, but (and I'm not a politically correct person) no short person wants to constantly be singled out for being small. If you're a rider you want to be recognized for your accomplishment as a rider. To use that phrase over and over ad infinitum is just hackey and lazy on the part of the commentator. It's like when Rossi was still hot and 150 times per race they would refer to him as 9-times-world-champion Valentino Rossi. You can be sure when Dani is at a corporate meeting with KTM he doesn't go around shaking hands and saying, Hi - I'm the Tiny Samurai. When he's with his crew, the guys who know him call him Dani and those who don't call him Mr. Pedrosa.
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Another post of you passing judgement on others. Such a sad nasty man you are.

Well at least you learned something about motogp today.
Give it another 15 years and you might figure out that Marc has an ant on his helmet.
 
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Good race, glad Dani/Lorenzo are ok.

Martinator rode a great race and well deserved victory. Rider of the race for me was Mir, he really pushed that Gixxer to the limit on a track that in theory would be one of its worst. Hopefully now he has the holeshot device he'll be at the front more often.

Binder! When that boy gets his qualifying sorted, I predict a lot of Lorenzo-esque dominant victories. Is it just me does he look a lot like Casey Stoner?
 
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Good race, glad Dani/Lorenzo are ok.

Martinator rode a great race and well deserved victory. Rider of the race for me was Mir, he really pushed that Gixxer to the limit on a track that in theory would be one of its worst. Hopefully now he has the holeshot device he'll be at the front more often.

Binder! When that boy gets his qualifying sorted, I predict a lot of Lorenzo-esque dominant victories. Is it just me does he look a lot like Casey Stoner?
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There may be a resemblance but I think that's all it is. I think he may be one of those riders who especially needs the bike dialled in to how he wants without much in his arsenol on riding the bike as he needs to. Oliveira has more consistently extracted the potential of the KTM.
 
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Good race, glad Dani/Lorenzo are ok.

Martinator rode a great race and well deserved victory. Rider of the race for me was Mir, he really pushed that Gixxer to the limit on a track that in theory would be one of its worst. Hopefully now he has the holeshot device he'll be at the front more often.

Binder! When that boy gets his qualifying sorted, I predict a lot of Lorenzo-esque dominant victories. Is it just me does he look a lot like Casey Stoner?
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It's the tooth's that make it happen, that and the hair color.
 
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misfit said:
There may be a resemblance but I think that's all it is. I think he may be one of those riders who especially needs the bike dialled in to how he wants without much in his arsenol on riding the bike as he needs to. Oliveira has more consistently extracted the potential of the KTM.
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Totally agree on Oliveira. I'd say he's champion material over Binder but I love them both.
 
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Totally agree on Oliveira. I'd say he's champion material over Binder but I love them both.
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I do wonder what happens at KTM in the long term. Four into two doesn’t go, and while I like Binder I think Fernandez and possibly (hopefully from my point of view as an Australian) Gardner may end up better than Him, and both the factory riders have long term contracts.
 
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I do wonder what happens at KTM in the long term. Four into two doesn’t go, and while I like Binder I think Fernandez and possibly (hopefully from my point of view as an Australian) Gardner may end up better than Him, and both the factory riders have long term contracts.
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I had not heard that. :(
 
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I do wonder what happens at KTM in the long term. Four into two doesn’t go, and while I like Binder I think Fernandez and possibly (hopefully from my point of view as an Australian) Gardner may end up better than Him, and both the factory riders have long term contracts.
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KTM Factory triple threat in 2023?
 
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Keshav said:
I had not heard that. :(
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Sorry, got mixed up, KTM have signed on for 5 more years in the premier class, Binder is signed until the end of the 2024 season, Oliveira is only signed till the end of the 2022 season. I personally would have the contract situations of the 2 current factory riders reversed, and do wonder whether at least one of their riders signed for next year would have been better off elsewhere. It is hard to give 4 riders the same support whatever the support may be in theory imo, although Ducati seem to be managing to support Zarco and Martin fairly well this year.
 
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michaelm said:
Sorry, got mixed up, KTM have signed on for 5 more years in the premier class, Binder is signed until the end of the 2024 season, Oliveira is only signed till the end of the 2022 season. I personally would have the contract situations of the 2 current factory riders reversed, and do wonder whether at least one of their riders signed for next year would have been better off elsewhere. It is hard to give 4 riders the same support whatever the support may be in theory imo, although Ducati seem to be managing to support Zarco and Martin fairly well this year.
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Yes - when I was watching the pre-race commentary, and one commentator was interviewing, I think Pit Beirer, Beirer expressed regret that the two current riders heard of the hiring of two new riders, inadvertently - rather than from official in-house sources, leading me to think that KTM was, I don't know, buying out their contracts and replacing them. It wasn't really clear.
 
I watched the post-race press interviews and what a pleasure! These three podium finishers are very mature for their years. All the riders can be quite thoughtful in how they speak and genuinely keep my attention. This is in such stark contrast to Formula one.
 
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