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Zarco to Pramac Ducati for 2020


I was a little taken aback by the title, I am under no illusions Jack is ever going to challenge MM for a world title, but thought it unusual for him to be dumped after his performance in practice and qualifying this week-end. Instead Ducati are reputedly applying their characteristic ruthlessness to Petrucci, who admittedly hadn’t done much since his race win and has been fairly underwhelming in the latter half of this season. I guess signing Zarco to Pramac means they can replace Jack or Dovi if he decides to retire with whoever performs best out of Zarco and Bagnaia. I would be somewhat hopeful about Zarco on a Ducati, Lorenzo eventually got to grips with that bike and he hasn’t looked bad on the difficult HRC bike. I doubt KTM are ever going anywhere with their current chassis, like Ducati before them they will never be able to procure tires which suit an unconventional chassis under the control tire rule.
 
Again - more click-bait ......... Zarco is in fact scheduled to test ride three different bikes this weekend, and then, afterwards, negotiations begin.
 
Pfff

Dismissed by Jack Miller and Petrucci

Again Keshav, who the .... is Zarco to be presented 3 different bikes from 3 different factory and then choose ?

Not even Marc Marquez can get that

MarcVDS moto2 it is
 
Pfff

Dismissed by Jack Miller and Petrucci

Again Keshav, who the .... is Zarco to be presented 3 different bikes from 3 different factory and then choose ?

Not even Marc Marquez can get that

MarcVDS moto2 it is

Maybe next time you watch a race, try turning on the sound?
 
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Maybe next time you watch a race, try turning on the sound?

The commentators are not unknown for dealing in unsubstantiated rumours as well. Jorge back to Ducati earlier this year came to nothing.

A tweet by a French journalist is perhaps not the strongest evidence.
 
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The commentators are not unknown for dealing in unsubstantiated rumours as well. Jorge back to Ducati earlier this year came to nothing.

A tweet by a French journalist is perhaps not the strongest evidence.

Not quoting a French journalist. British commentators in my experience - will specify when something is merely a hot rumor. I can't somehow imagine they would say so authoritatively that Zarco had three tests lined up. That is after all a whopping big statement which if untrue would be really hard to live down. When everybody was jumping out of their skin to pronounce AM as his brother's new teammate, these guys were quite cautious, saying it was a rumor in the paddock. Turns out HRC were looking at AM as a potential rider a few years down the line . . . you know, like when he has as much experience as Zarco. ;)
 
Not quoting a French journalist. British commentators in my experience - will specify when something is merely a hot rumor. I can't somehow imagine they would say so authoritatively that Zarco had three tests lined up. That is after all a whopping big statement which if untrue would be really hard to live down. When everybody was jumping out of their skin to pronounce AM as his brother's new teammate, these guys were quite cautious, saying it was a rumor in the paddock. Turns out HRC were looking at AM as a potential rider a few years down the line . . . you know, like when he has as much experience as Zarco. ;)

I am something of a Zarco fan, certainly more than I am an AM fan, but that I am going to wait and see on this one was really my only point. I think the Jorge back to Ducati rumours were fairly strong and mentioned by the commentators at one stage as well; Jack Miller actually referenced those rumours which had him out of a job mid season in his interview post the Valencia race on Crash where he said no-one had discussed anything with him and that he was very happy at Pramac. He didn’t of course say he would knock back a factory Ducati ride though.
 
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I did hear the commentators say that he had 3 tests lined up, however I thought they were being a bit sarcastic

in all honesty, I do not think Zarco deserves a MotoGP ride... his attitude, and some of the comments he has made far exceed his results. to quote Top Gun, his ego is writing checks his body can't cash... the way hey left KTM, turning down a possible Avintia ride when he had nothing else, assuming the VDS ride would be his...
 
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I did hear the commentators say that he had 3 tests lined up, however I thought they were being a bit sarcastic

in all honesty, I do not think Zarco deserves a MotoGP ride... his attitude, and some of the comments he has made far exceed his results. to quote Top Gun, his ego is writing checks his body can't cash... the way hey left KTM, turning down a possible Avintia ride when he had nothing else, assuming the VDS ride would be his...

Results . . . hampered by a ..... chassis design which by all appearances is more dear to KTM than actual results, which could I imagine be infuriating for a rider who's been sold a big dream package of more or less unlimited all out effort to create a competitive machine - that turns out in fact to a mirage. Especially for a rider who was doing really well on the previous team; a rider who is in the prime of his life career-wise, who might just resent wasting time on machinery that is developmentally ........ by bad decisions made by corporate hacks.

Not saying this is exactly what happened, but certainly something like it.

Re: Ego, none of these guys regardless of how chill they may appear in front of a TV camera, are without HUGE egos.

And BTW - I don't hold to this idea that a rider should meekly sit around with his thumb up his ... saying nothing to the press that might shed a less than complementary picture of his employer. These guys are hired to race; not to be corporate shills.

If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.
 
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If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.
Or they might have perfected the carbon fibre chassis; they had already ditched the trellis frame. I tend to doubt it though; whether or not Presiozi’s brainchild viable in general the control tire rule has basically put paid to unconventional riding styles let alone unconventional chassis. Rather a complete circle given that Rossi’s insistence on switching tires for 2008 basically led to the control tire rule and his current tire complaints.
 
Or they might have perfected the carbon fibre chassis; they had already ditched the trellis frame. I tend to doubt it though; whether or not Presiozi’s brainchild viable in general the control tire rule has basically put paid to unconventional riding styles let alone unconventional chassis. Rather a complete circle given that Rossi’s insistence on switching tires for 2008 basically led to the control tire rule and his current tire complaints.

This for sure!
 
Results . . . hampered by a ..... chassis design which by all appearances is more dear to KTM than actual results, which could I imagine be infuriating for a rider who's been sold a big dream package of more or less unlimited all out effort to create a competitive machine - that turns out in fact to a mirage. Especially for a rider who was doing really well on the previous team; a rider who is in the prime of his life career-wise, who might just resent wasting time on machinery that is developmentally ........ by bad decisions made by corporate hacks.

Not saying this is exactly what happened, but certainly something like it.

Re: Ego, none of these guys regardless of how chill they may appear in front of a TV camera, are without HUGE egos.

And BTW - I don't hold to this idea that a rider should meekly sit around with his thumb up his ... saying nothing to the press that might shed a less than complementary picture of his employer. These guys are hired to race; not to be corporate shills.

If Rossi hadn't pissed and moaned to the press, who knows? Ducati might still be dragging around in 15th place with that stupid trellis frame.

Zarco went for the big payday with KTM, which I dont have a problem with. but after reading a few reports, and listening to what Aleix had to say about him, how negative he was with the team, he created his own mess.
 
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Maybe not that much the payday, methinks he wants the prestige of being a factory rider. Some folks are funny that way, you know.
Not sure what he is waiting for now. There is no prestige at Avinitia. Perhaps he hopes Alex starts crying and goes home, leaving Honda seat to him?
 
Maybe not that much the payday, methinks he wants the prestige of being a factory rider. Some folks are funny that way, you know.
Not sure what he is waiting for now. There is no prestige at Avinitia. Perhaps he hopes Alex starts crying and goes home, leaving Honda seat to him?

The way he ended it with KTM was poor, not the way factory teams work especially in front of the media. he burned his next opportunity to work with a factory team, he is not someone factory teams want representing their brand right now. He doesn't like the prestige of riding for Avintia, well thats all he's got at the moment.
 
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Leaving the prestige out of equation. What perspective has he got.
Avinitia. Making friends at Ducati, when frequenting top ten next year on GP19 then the the big shuffle for 2021 may land him in the factory squad.
Moto2. Good team, if he manages to lift the title again then it certainly will open some doors.
There is a risk with both, what if he can't get anywhere on that GP19? What if he gets beaten in Moto2?
 
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Leaving the prestige out of equation. What perspective has he got.
Avinitia. Making friends at Ducati, when frequenting top ten next year on GP19 then the the big shuffle for 2021 may land him in the factory squad.
Moto2. Good team, if he manages to lift the title again then it certainly will open some doors.
There is a risk with both, what if he can't get anywhere on that GP19? What if he gets beaten in Moto2?

I have to agree here. To me he can only play the long game and rebuild his reputation. Moto 2 is probably the longer game though, no? As in the 2021 Duc reshuffle seems immanent and why not show what (if any) he has on a somewhat inferior Duc to be poised for the possible Duc seat?