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Would the introduction of a seamless gearbox to the Yamaha make them unbeatable?

stiefel
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Eh, did you forget to log in under you own account jkd?


Busted!
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Nope I am just me. There might come a time when some might clone me. But I am me and need no one else.


You will never see me jumping around with a fake ID.
 
Honda built a seamless gearbox


 


Yamaha wanted one too but misunderstood


 


They built a seems less like a gearbox


 


JL said it don't matter to me


 


Broke bones or seems less gearbox


 


If it's painted blue then I can make it win
 
stiefel
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Eh, did you forget to log in under you own account jkd?

Busted!
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Haha. Thats funny. I was thinking "why is he replying to my insult". Good reply though Whammy. Youve got potential although you must learn that petty mudslinging is the norm not the exception.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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Haha. Thats funny. I was thinking "why is he replying to my insult". Good reply though Whammy. Youve got potential although you must learn that petty mudslinging is the norm not the exception.
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Then they need to know what my grand daddy told me


 


Don't sling mud with a pig cause the pig loves a mudhole


 


Oink oink said I to grandpa


 


 


You are definitely a much better person than I am and


 


should let them know that you refuse to crawl around


 


in mud holes with the likes of Whammy.............. LOL


 


 


edit - Don't read this narrow post stiefel without an inhaler
 
whammy
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Then they need to know what my grand daddy told me


 


Don't sling mud with a pig cause the pig loves a mudhole


 
 


 


You are definitely a much better person than I am and


 


should let them know that you refuse to crawl around


 


in mud holes with the likes of Whammy.............. LOL


 


 


edit - Don't read this narrow post stiefel without an inhaler
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Close, the saying is


Never wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, and the pigs like it,
 
povol
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Close, the saying is


Never wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, and the pigs like it.
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And I would never say Oink Oink to my Grandpa for fear of a beating. Very true.
 
Ducati have had it for 2 years now. According to Dovi it works well, but (as apparent in Ducati's case) it is hardly a big game changer.
 
J4rn0
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Ducati have had it for 2 years now. According to Dovi it works well, but (as apparent in Ducati's case) it is hardly a big game changer.
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Thanks - that was something I did not know.
 
elitemafia
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What the heck is a Kropotkin anyways??
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A very vile and cruel creature


 
elitemafia
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What the heck is a Kropotkin anyways??
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Stalks it's prey with cunning and consumes it completely
 
elitemafia
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What the heck is a Kropotkin anyways??
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Has evidently cultivated a very large beard since April.


 


Here seen burining the midnight oil composing his most recent treatise which grapples the enigma of Japanese racing transmission development.


 


http://www.motomatters.com/


 


Far from anarchy, petty (Moto) matters such as moderation and site decorum are delegated to his acolyte, minion and general understudy 'Rusty Bucket'.
 

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According to moto mini matters the Yamaha is only half seamless whereas the Honda is a full seamless box.


 


Yamaha would be better served if they resorted to stealing technology and riders from Honda.


 


Oh wait a min - that's how they got Rossi and ECU programmers. Been there, done that, must be harder now.
 
whammy
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According to moto mini matters the Yamaha is only half seamless whereas the Honda is a full seamless box.


 


Yamaha would be better served if they resorted to stealing technology and riders from Honda.


 


Oh wait a min - that's how they got Rossi and ECU programmers. Been there, done that, must be harder now.
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Actually the "ECU programmers" went from Yamaha to Honda in 2010, not the other way around.  "Stealing" Rossi happened in 2003/4 so very old news.


 


http://motomatters.com/news/2009/11/01/engineering_brain_drain_sees_yamaha_tech.html
 
yamaka46
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Actually the "ECU programmers" went from Yamaha to Honda in 2010, not the other way around.  "Stealing" Rossi happened in 2003/4 so very old news.


 


http://motomatters.com/news/2009/11/01/engineering_brain_drain_sees_yamaha_tech.html
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Boom!  lol... yamaka46 is correct... 


 


Also, don't forget Suppo, Stoner & crew all being ripped from Ducati too...  Honda is a mutant, Yam engineers, Ducati rider, team boss & crew = 2011 championship...  
 
yamaka46
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Actually the "ECU programmers" went from Yamaha to Honda in 2010, not the other way around.  "Stealing" Rossi happened in 2003/4 so very old news.


 


http://motomatters.com/news/2009/11/01/engineering_brain_drain_sees_yamaha_tech.html
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ScreamingBigBang
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Boom!  lol... yamaka46 is correct... 


 


Also, don't forget Suppo, Stoner & crew all being ripped from Ducati too...  Honda is a mutant, Yam engineers, Ducati rider, team boss & crew = 2011 championship...  
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Yep ......... you guys are right. JB was a tire boy at Honda before he and Rossi went to Yamaha. Silly of me to think that JB took fuel maps and traction control data with him when he moved. An engineer he is not :)
 
whammy
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Yep ......... you guys are right. JB was a tire boy at Honda before he and Rossi went to Yamaha. Silly of me to think that JB took fuel maps and traction control data with him when he moved. An engineer he is not :)
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JB is NOT an "ECU programmer", which is what you were talking about.


 
whammy
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According to moto mini matters the Yamaha is only half seamless whereas the Honda is a full seamless box.


 


Yamaha would be better served if they resorted to stealing technology and riders from Honda.


 


Oh wait a min - that's how they got Rossi and ECU programmers. Been there, done that, must be harder now.
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I am an engineer and work for JLR (Jaguar LandRover) developing software and calibrating said software for the engine ECU.  That I can do.  JB's job, however....  Regardless of how useless some people (who have no concept of what he does) think he is, JB has, at the very minimum, not ...... up the bikes ridden by Rainey, Doohan and Rossi.  I am sure I couldn't guarantee even that level of ability.  The Duc was ...... before he started and is still ...... after he left.


 


However, the concept of taking fuel maps & TC data (calibration data in both cases) from one manufacturer to another is meaningless unless they have the same ECU software (and hardware) supplier.  We transitioned from Denso to Bosch and the calibration was anything but carry over. Of course JB took experience from Honda to Yamaha and then to Ducati, but as others have said, being told there is a problem is not the same as being able (or willing) to fix it.


 


As I said, the coup of Yamaha stealing Rossi & hence JB from Honda happened 10 years ago, the coup of Honda stealing Yamaha "ECU programmers" happened 3 years ago.  Which is likely to be more relevant to todays ECU software & calibration?


 


Try to talk about something you actually understand or you run the very real risk of looking stupid.
 
You have got so technical that you have lost yourself. Let me help you.


 


A software developer is someone who writes the code ( what you claim to be )


 


An ECU programmer is the person who flashes the code to the chip ( what JB is )


 


Try not to let your big words and deep thoughts run you around in circles.
 
yamaka46
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I am an engineer and work for JLR (Jaguar LandRover) developing software and calibrating said software for the engine ECU.  That I can do.
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Wow that explains a lot. Not exactly something I would want to tell people...
 

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