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World Supersport Aragon

Joined Apr 2008
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Purely started this thread in view of the Sofluogu incident - I admit the wrong reasons, when really the race should be the talking point - but Jesus!!!!



I remember the lynch mob out over the Casey dead arm on Depuniet - this won't provoke anywhere near the same ire because



1/ Only the die hards on here follow WSBk - not to mention Supersport.

2/ Like Povol said, coverage is hard to get and much harder to find than Moto GP

3/ It's not Casey Stoner



This was christened the axe murder class because it was once a full contact sport - but I can't say that I've ever seen someone try to nut another rider at near on 175mph!!
 
I saw it... If ANY one did that to me id shoot their balls off.



wtf was that about?.. Is there a back story I missed or was that just .... you move off the cuff?
 
Purely started this thread in view of the Sofluogu incident - I admit the wrong reasons, when really the race should be the talking point - but Jesus!!!!



I remember the lynch mob out over the Casey dead arm on Depuniet - this won't provoke anywhere near the same ire because



1/ Only the die hards on here follow WSBk - not to mention Supersport.

2/ Like Povol said, coverage is hard to get and much harder to find than Moto GP

3/ It's not Casey Stoner



This was christened the axe murder class because it was once a full contact sport - but I can't say that I've ever seen someone try to nut another rider at near on 175mph!!

I find WSS more authentic than the main WSBK show, but hadn't expected quite that much authenticity.
 
tuned in a bit too late, what exactly happened??

can only watch the race tomorrow, if anybody has a youtube clip it'd be highly appreciated
 
That was one of the craziest things I have ever seen.

Looked to me like revenge for Syria shooting doon that Turkish jet.
 
finally got to see the whole race including the incident



never liked sofuoglu and now i'm sure i never will, this guy is really a total ....... and has no business on the track.I've watched him many times,from being an ....... in the r6 cup ,breaking simons legs in moto2 to being an ... again in wss.



imagine the handlebars locked up at that speed!this sort of thing kills or cripples people for life

if this little brat feels the need to die "heroic" on track to make up for his whiny unmanly voice i'm ok with that, but do it alone and leave the real riders out of it.



sickened by him. i hope for him he won't be on the podium at nürburgring, i'm sure there will be one or two urine filled tetrapacks flying his way
 
finally got to see the whole race including the incident



never liked sofuoglu and now i'm sure i never will, this guy is really a total ....... and has no business on the track.I've watched him many times,from being an ....... in the r6 cup ,breaking simons legs in moto2 to being an ... again in wss.



imagine the handlebars locked up at that speed!this sort of thing kills or cripples people for life

if this little brat feels the need to die "heroic" on track to make up for his whiny unmanly voice i'm ok with that, but do it alone and leave the real riders out of it.



sickened by him. i hope for him he won't be on the podium at nürburgring, i'm sure there will be one or two urine filled tetrapacks flying his way

I only saw it the once, watching the race live.



I remain perplexed as much as anything. I have no idea what he was thinking or what he thought he was doing, particularly in view of his apparent attitude in parc ferme.
 
i have to admit, i get a bit hot headed when i see dumb stuff initially, but then my temper cools and i try to respect every rider.



but this sofuoglu guy has f-ed up way too many times for me to have any sympathy for him whatsoever.

this guy needs to hang up the helmet before he hurts other riders.given the fact that hes not a motorcycle messiah i wouldn't waste a tear over not seeing him race again.



you can easily explain sofuoglus success in the lower classes. its not that his talent is supreme or his work ethic. he just stoops to lower levels.
 
Finally got to watch this today,

WTF was that all about?

Looked back and couldn't see anything that could even remotely excuse such behavior.

.... dropping him 3 places Fabian should drop him on his arse!

And ban the MF for at least a race!
 
even if i was so inclined to put his action down as another brain fart, that would be no excuse for having absolutely no respect for your opponents.

also,if you can't control yourself while racing motorcycles you picked the wrong sport to participate in



....... needs to go.too many tragedies in motorcycle racing in general, no need to wait for another one because of one ... that can't be shown the door
 
even if i was so inclined to put his action down as another brain fart, that would be no excuse for having absolutely no respect for your opponents.

also,if you can't control yourself while racing motorcycles you picked the wrong sport to participate in



....... needs to go.too many tragedies in motorcycle racing in general, no need to wait for another one because of one ... that can't be shown the door



Only my second season of watching so cannot comment,

I do seem to recall some dubious moves in moto2 last year though, but not clearly!
 
We throw around a lot of hyperbole here, but no words I've thought of using seem to fit for Sofoglu. I thought of words like, gutless, ...... bag, mindless, ......., arrogant, ....., ...., ......., prick, etc. But none, and I mean none really describe his actions. Btw, that goes the same for Race Direction, who he ..... slapped and then sodomized and got away with it. Other than Capirossi's take out to win the title of Harada, this has got to be one of the biggest complete failures by race direction I have seen in a while. Black flag and immediate suspension for 3-5 rounds would have been the only minimum acceptable consequence, if not outright ban for the rest of the season pending a phycological review.



Also, the commentating crew (Eurosport) are completely gutless. They see it unfold before their very eyes, and still not wanting to throw the book at him form the booth. One guy even says, "well we don't know all the facts". Uhm, what facts? Even if Fabian had ...... Sogolu's mother before the race that still would NOT be unacceptable. Gutless ....... chicken .... commentators.



Race Direction, ah man. Other than Sofoglu, they are the second most culpable in all of this ..... Why he wasn't immediately black flagged is a mystery and a complete failure of their job. The ....... tried to headbut another competitor at 175mph. There doesn't need to be any further facts or video to review, throw out the black flag, if not even the red flag to stop the ....... race, as there is a rabid mentally unstable man on the hot track!



The rider must move back three positions on the crawler, and I was like, are you ....... kidding me? Really, you want this unstable ...... to come close to Fabian again? And he completely ignored them. He might as well stuck his middle finger up in the air toward the race stewards every time he passed. Not only that, celebrating and coming into parc ferme as if he had just won. WTF? The cops and mental stability personell should have been deployed to meet him the first chance they got. Put that ...... in a straightjacket.



Fabian, gutless too. When asked about the incident: "Oh, I don't know, it was a bit windy." French ...... Call it like you see it .... I don't doubt after this response that you should be head butted and kicked around some for lacking the courage to stan up for yourself, but I still don't think anybody should be weaving into you, trying to head but you, and possibly send you and the crazy person flipping down the track when your levers touch. Maybe that would have been enough to get Fabian to act like a man when asked about a man trying to kill him.



The media in general, gutless. I haven't read any of the usual internet sites cal this out harshly. They have no problem grandstanding on other less important issue, but so far have been quiet on this incident. The so called "experts" are weak chicken .... spineless wankers. Superbike planet described Rossi's comments recently as nuclear holocaust. Yet something that really merits sensational headlines is all but invisible.



The only one I heard with any balls was Sam Lowes. They didn't even ask him about the incident, but he correctly assessed that Sofoglu is a stupid ..... in the post race interview.



40 secs



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNeJXU4SNSI[/media]
 
talking sense there jumkie!whole heartedly agree with the entire post ,maybe except your flak on foret.i don't know the guy personally, but if hes anything like me its better to not say anything at first because otherwise it would have become a vulgar hate rant on live television.

i agree he should say something about it, but i can respect that silence is gold before you say something stupid



i have to say though that ideally he should have either not commented at all or really say whats on his mind.saying it was maybe a little windy sounded like coming to ........ defense.



if you want to send me a safety sealed ,sterile package till september please feel free to do so. just make sure to not drink in advance and eat a lot of vitamin b
 
We throw around a lot of hyperbole here, but no words I've thought of using seem to fit for Sofoglu. I thought of words like, gutless, ...... bag, mindless, ......., arrogant, ....., ...., ......., prick, etc. But none, and I mean none really describe his actions. Btw, that goes the same for Race Direction, who he ..... slapped and then sodomized and got away with it. Other than Capirossi's take out to win the title of Harada, this has got to be one of the biggest complete failures by race direction I have seen in a while. Black flag and immediate suspension for 3-5 rounds would have been the only minimum acceptable consequence, if not outright ban for the rest of the season pending a phycological review.



Also, the commentating crew (Eurosport) are completely gutless. They see it unfold before their very eyes, and still not wanting to throw the book at him form the booth. One guy even says, "well we don't know all the facts". Uhm, what facts? Even if Fabian had ...... Sogolu's mother before the race that still would NOT be unacceptable. Gutless ....... chicken .... commentators.



Race Direction, ah man. Other than Sofoglu, they are the second most culpable in all of this ..... Why he wasn't immediately black flagged is a mystery and a complete failure of their job. The ....... tried to headbut another competitor at 175mph. There doesn't need to be any further facts or video to review, throw out the black flag, if not even the red flag to stop the ....... race, as there is a rabid mentally unstable man on the hot track!



The rider must move back three positions on the crawler, and I was like, are you ....... kidding me? Really, you want this unstable ...... to come close to Fabian again? And he completely ignored them. He might as well stuck his middle finger up in the air toward the race stewards every time he passed. Not only that, celebrating and coming into parc ferme as if he had just won. WTF? The cops and mental stability personell should have been deployed to meet him the first chance they got. Put that ...... in a straightjacket.



Fabian, gutless too. When asked about the incident: "Oh, I don't know, it was a bit windy." French ...... Call it like you see it .... I don't doubt after this response that you should be head butted and kicked around some for lacking the courage to stan up for yourself, but I still don't think anybody should be weaving into you, trying to head but you, and possibly send you and the crazy person flipping down the track when your levers touch. Maybe that would have been enough to get Fabian to act like a man when asked about a man trying to kill him.



The media in general, gutless. I haven't read any of the usual internet sites cal this out harshly. They have no problem grandstanding on other less important issue, but so far have been quiet on this incident. The so called "experts" are weak chicken .... spineless wankers. Superbike planet described Rossi's comments recently as nuclear holocaust. Yet something that really merits sensational headlines is all but invisible.



The only one I heard with any balls was Sam Lowes. They didn't even ask him about the incident, but he correctly assessed that Sofoglu is a stupid ..... in the post race interview.



40 secs



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNeJXU4SNSI[/media]



+1



specially the french ...... part, i would have stomped on Sofucklus face till i was wearing socks of dried .... and blood...
 
The only one I heard with any balls was Sam Lowes. They didn't even ask him about the incident, but he correctly assessed that Sofoglu is a stupid ..... in the post race interview.



40 secs



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNeJXU4SNSI[/media]



Wow, WTF was he thinking? Like Jumkie said, sit him down at least three races.



Yeah Lowes does seem to be the only one with any balls in this issue. He ended that comment with, thats his problem and I look forward to putting it right.(top left video after the one jumkie loaded ends.)
 
We throw around a lot of hyperbole here, but no words I've thought of using seem to fit for Sofoglu. ... none really describe his actions.



Black flag and immediate suspension for 3-5 rounds would have been the only minimum acceptable consequence, if not outright ban for the rest of the season pending a phycological review.



40 secs

[media]http://youtu.be/iNeJXU4SNSI?t=38s[/media]



Holly ....!

It looks like the ..... has been playing too much Road Rash, and can't tell the difference between a game and reality.



(Also agree that the commentators are utterly useless. Good rant, dude!)
 
Congratulations to Joey Pascarella for being the first person to win an AMA and a WSS race in one season.



This was a pure racing incident. At firstl look I thoughi it was the most aggregious and dangerous act I have ever seen in racing.

But then I learned that Sofogarella has a great number of fans back in Turkey. So I took the formula currently being used in GP to determine whether it was a race incident or an act of idiocy. I pm'd Ion Blaster for the specifics of the formula and this is how it works.

If you rate the percieved act on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the most idiotic) and divide divide that number by the amount of fans that rider has and and then multiply that number by the amount of passion the rider has you will come up with a figure that determines the answer. Now Sofoglu obviously doesnt have the inherent passion that any Spainard or Italian rider would ever have but he has the entire organization of Al Queada and all of Turkey behind him. So by tis formula clearly it was a racing incident
 

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