Interesting concept....but who's got the cash and who are they marketing it towards? I just can't see any top riders being allowed by their respective teams to participate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 2 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Son, do you remember the TransAtlantic match races between the US & UK?
But those were back in the day when team owners and sponsors were more relaxed.
But those were back in the day when team owners and sponsors were more relaxed.
Wow,if that works out and is a success maybe some of the ideas could come to MotoGP.
Actually the whole idea of having an open championship not only as a reality show format but make it start over every new year would be very interresting.That idea with races all over the world and then a ten(or whatever)"play off"with as many participants as Moto GP has for a whole year.The fields up to that point could be as big as you want.Best of both worlds,as i actually appreciate in some sence that the current moto gp field size makes it very easy to follow your favorites.With more indepth reports and so on.Every rider can adapt as much as they want to their package up to the competition,another good thing.
Actually the whole idea of having an open championship not only as a reality show format but make it start over every new year would be very interresting.That idea with races all over the world and then a ten(or whatever)"play off"with as many participants as Moto GP has for a whole year.The fields up to that point could be as big as you want.Best of both worlds,as i actually appreciate in some sence that the current moto gp field size makes it very easy to follow your favorites.With more indepth reports and so on.Every rider can adapt as much as they want to their package up to the competition,another good thing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 2 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Son, do you remember the TransAtlantic match races between the US & UK?
Yeah, didnt we win em all!!
Yeah, didnt we win em all!!
These people have got their finger on the pulse.
I've been crying like a little ..... for a rules package that resembles this one (I'm not sure how they can manage to get by without a top speed limit).
This new series is exactly why I think Ezy is such a dunce. When you take a look at sports motorcycling from a global perspective, the greatest source of growth is going to be in the developing world. People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them, and their vehicular culture is still largely based upon 2 wheeled transportation so the necessary infrastructure and cultural norms are present.
Most major companies in the motorcycling industry realize where the market is going, but they are in need of a place to test and market their products. MotoGP is really the only series that could support relaxed rules. They have all of the circuits they need, they have the clout to push for safety modifications, and they have the equipment vendors (Bridgestone mainly) needed to produce equipment for a radical shift in design philosophies. But since Ezy is a spineless twit and he insists upon synthesizing a spectacle rather than writing rules that will allow a spectacle to happen, MotoGP continues to move in the wrong direction at the behest of the major manufacturers involved.
Obviously, new manufacturers (whether in the developed or developing world) cannot compete with the level of refinement achieved by the Japanese and some established European manufacturers. Displacement rules have been used in recent history (since 2007) to exclude people from participating in prototype racing. New manufacturers can't out develop companies that have a 50 year head start, new companies must innovate. Current racing formulas do not provide for their needs.
I'm very happy about this announcement, but I'm a bit disappointed I'm not in a position to participate in its creation. They understand the big picture, I can only hope they are able to obtain the people they need to successfully manage the day-to-day.
I've been crying like a little ..... for a rules package that resembles this one (I'm not sure how they can manage to get by without a top speed limit).
This new series is exactly why I think Ezy is such a dunce. When you take a look at sports motorcycling from a global perspective, the greatest source of growth is going to be in the developing world. People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them, and their vehicular culture is still largely based upon 2 wheeled transportation so the necessary infrastructure and cultural norms are present.
Most major companies in the motorcycling industry realize where the market is going, but they are in need of a place to test and market their products. MotoGP is really the only series that could support relaxed rules. They have all of the circuits they need, they have the clout to push for safety modifications, and they have the equipment vendors (Bridgestone mainly) needed to produce equipment for a radical shift in design philosophies. But since Ezy is a spineless twit and he insists upon synthesizing a spectacle rather than writing rules that will allow a spectacle to happen, MotoGP continues to move in the wrong direction at the behest of the major manufacturers involved.
Obviously, new manufacturers (whether in the developed or developing world) cannot compete with the level of refinement achieved by the Japanese and some established European manufacturers. Displacement rules have been used in recent history (since 2007) to exclude people from participating in prototype racing. New manufacturers can't out develop companies that have a 50 year head start, new companies must innovate. Current racing formulas do not provide for their needs.
I'm very happy about this announcement, but I'm a bit disappointed I'm not in a position to participate in its creation. They understand the big picture, I can only hope they are able to obtain the people they need to successfully manage the day-to-day.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 2 2009, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>These people have got their finger on the pulse.
I've been crying like a little ..... for a rules package that resembles this one (I'm not sure how they can manage to get by without a top speed limit).
This new series is exactly why I think Ezy is such a dunce. When you take a look at sports motorcycling from a global perspective, the greatest source of growth is going to be in the developing world. People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them, and their vehicular culture is still largely based upon 2 wheeled transportation so the necessary infrastructure and cultural norms are present.
Most major companies in the motorcycling industry realize where the market is going, but they are in need of a place to test and market their products. MotoGP is really the only series that could support relaxed rules. They have all of the circuits they need, they have the clout to push for safety modifications, and they have the equipment vendors (Bridgestone mainly) needed to produce equipment for a radical shift in design philosophies. But since Ezy is a spineless twit and he insists upon synthesizing a spectacle rather than writing rules that will allow a spectacle to happen, MotoGP continues to move in the wrong direction at the behest of the major manufacturers involved.
Obviously, new manufacturers (whether in the developed or developing world) cannot compete with the level of refinement achieved by the Japanese and some established European manufacturers. Displacement rules have been used in recent history (since 2007) to exclude people from participating in prototype racing. New manufacturers can't out develop companies that have a 50 year head start, new companies must innovate. Current racing formulas do not provide for their needs.
I'm very happy about this announcement, but I'm a bit disappointed I'm not in a position to participate in its creation. They understand the big picture, I can only hope they are able to obtain the people they need to successfully manage the day-to-day.
Agree wholeheartedly with you Lex...were it not for this...
"People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them"
Yeah, graduating from commuting on a C90, straight to a ZX10 and immediately taking on the Mumbai rush hour would be a great move for all concerned wouldn't it.
Great to see that Barber was earmarked for the venue btw. I think it's a circuit with a great deal of potential that deserves worldwide recognition.
I've been crying like a little ..... for a rules package that resembles this one (I'm not sure how they can manage to get by without a top speed limit).
This new series is exactly why I think Ezy is such a dunce. When you take a look at sports motorcycling from a global perspective, the greatest source of growth is going to be in the developing world. People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them, and their vehicular culture is still largely based upon 2 wheeled transportation so the necessary infrastructure and cultural norms are present.
Most major companies in the motorcycling industry realize where the market is going, but they are in need of a place to test and market their products. MotoGP is really the only series that could support relaxed rules. They have all of the circuits they need, they have the clout to push for safety modifications, and they have the equipment vendors (Bridgestone mainly) needed to produce equipment for a radical shift in design philosophies. But since Ezy is a spineless twit and he insists upon synthesizing a spectacle rather than writing rules that will allow a spectacle to happen, MotoGP continues to move in the wrong direction at the behest of the major manufacturers involved.
Obviously, new manufacturers (whether in the developed or developing world) cannot compete with the level of refinement achieved by the Japanese and some established European manufacturers. Displacement rules have been used in recent history (since 2007) to exclude people from participating in prototype racing. New manufacturers can't out develop companies that have a 50 year head start, new companies must innovate. Current racing formulas do not provide for their needs.
I'm very happy about this announcement, but I'm a bit disappointed I'm not in a position to participate in its creation. They understand the big picture, I can only hope they are able to obtain the people they need to successfully manage the day-to-day.
Agree wholeheartedly with you Lex...were it not for this...
"People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them"
Yeah, graduating from commuting on a C90, straight to a ZX10 and immediately taking on the Mumbai rush hour would be a great move for all concerned wouldn't it.
Great to see that Barber was earmarked for the venue btw. I think it's a circuit with a great deal of potential that deserves worldwide recognition.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 2 2009, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agree wholeheartedly with you Lex...were it not for this...
"People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them"
Yeah, graduating from commuting on a C90, straight to a ZX10 and immediately taking on the Mumbai rush hour would be a great move for all concerned wouldn't it.
Great to see that Barber was earmarked for the venue btw. I think it's a circuit with a great deal of potential that deserves worldwide recognition.
By savvy, I mean they've been road riding since they were kids. Most Westerners learn to ride in the dirt and they have to adapt to the road.
"People who were riding 125s and scooters as teens are finding themselves wealthy enough to buy sportsbikes. They already have the 2 wheeled savvy necessary to pilot them"
Yeah, graduating from commuting on a C90, straight to a ZX10 and immediately taking on the Mumbai rush hour would be a great move for all concerned wouldn't it.
Great to see that Barber was earmarked for the venue btw. I think it's a circuit with a great deal of potential that deserves worldwide recognition.
By savvy, I mean they've been road riding since they were kids. Most Westerners learn to ride in the dirt and they have to adapt to the road.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 2 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>By savvy, I mean they've been road riding since they were kids. Most Westerners learn to ride in the dirt and they have to adapt to the road.
I'd say it was the other way round...but there you go
I'd say it was the other way round...but there you go
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 2 2009, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd say it was the other way round...but there you go
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This is what I was envisioning
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This is what I was envisioning
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 3 2009, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
looks like an april fools joke to me...
too bad
I didn't look at the date, but a series with no performance limitations does seem like a work of fantasy.
I didn't look at the date, but a series with no performance limitations does seem like a work of fantasy.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 3 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
looks like an april fools joke to me...
....!...and I spotted the Brawn/Rossi one immediately
This is all your fault Lex. You finally produce a near peerless and faultless post, and it turns out to be over the product of someone's warped imagination and fantasy.
The irony of it all
....!...and I spotted the Brawn/Rossi one immediately
This is all your fault Lex. You finally produce a near peerless and faultless post, and it turns out to be over the product of someone's warped imagination and fantasy.
The irony of it all
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 3 2009, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....!...and I spotted the Brawn/Rossi one immediately
This is all your fault Lex. You finally produce a near peerless and faultless post, and it turns out to be over the product of someone's warped imagination and fantasy.
The irony of it all
Any opportunity to get on my soapbox is a good opportunity
This is all your fault Lex. You finally produce a near peerless and faultless post, and it turns out to be over the product of someone's warped imagination and fantasy.
The irony of it all
Any opportunity to get on my soapbox is a good opportunity
