what do you feel When Motogp without Rossi

Yes, we will be deprived from a few potential rematches. Catalunya, Laguna, etc. Am I dreaming with the hope of seeing Rossi come back for Indy? Afterall, Lorenzo raced with two broken ankles and Elias races with a broken fibula (or was it tibia).

Scotty said:

motogp without Mr. Rossi will be a much better place especially if it will be like ‘moto2’ what wonderful racing we are seeing & experiencing on ‘moto2’ (I must add that we have never ever seen this sort of racing on the ‘500’s’ or ‘motogp’ ever, this is how it should be in ‘motogp’ none of these monopolies of factory bikes or certain advantages that these consortiums hold…it should be ‘A;; EQUAL’ and it should be up to the riders to make it happen…what do u all think???

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For someone who claims to have followed gp/motogp since the 70's you sure have no understanding of 'prototype' racing.



So where have you been pinky ?

Jumkie said:

Yes, we will be deprived from a few potential rematches. Catalunya, Laguna, etc. Am I dreaming with the hope of seeing Rossi come back for Indy? Afterall, Lorenzo raced with two broken ankles and Elias races with a broken fibula (or was it tibia).

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Yes he did and i admire them for that but unlike Rossi ,lorenzo's were not compound fractures !

Of course, it's not the same without Rossi. For some of us it's all we have ever known. I've only watched since the last year of 500s til now. And Rossi has always been a big part of the story. Whether he is the GOAT or not is debatable (I'll leave to those who have more knowledge than me) but he is certainly the most famouse motorcycle racer the world has ever known and transcends the sport. It will be a say day when he retires because he has given me so much entertainment. Anyway Biaggi is 39 and still going so why can't Rossi go on for another 8 years - assuming fib and tib are okay.



The thing to note about Rossi that he was almost always there at the sharp pointy end. Race in, race out he was fast.



Steve

Jumkie said:

Just going by the thread title, should I even read through this thread? Jesus H Christ. Please tell me there is a voice of reason somewhere in it.

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You called ?

baldylocks said:

You called ?

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Hi Balds. Yes

Allow me to retort........



The epic battles will continue............. for 4th or 5th place



My work here is done

baldylocks said:

Allow me to retort........



The epic battles will continue............. for 4th or 5th place



My work here is done

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NICE!

baldylocks said:

Allow me to retort........



The epic battles will continue............. for 4th or 5th place



My work here is done

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How do you figure?



There is one huge battle looming right at P1.



Lorenzo and Pedrosa.



Those guys are gunna be like the Spanish civil war all over again.



WHy? I think with Rossi out Pedrosa does not seem as intimidated? Pedrosa wants to beat Lorenzo, and with Rossi taking himself out, there's nothing between Lorenzo and Pedrosa at present.



Rossi doesn't intimidate Lorenzo, and Lorenzo was already the man to beat. But Lorenzo loves a show ...... now he's "da man!" I think he sees more customers with Rossi out



Stoner ...... ( if they ever get the Duc going ) I don't think anyone intimidates him but the track, other riders are just anoyances to him when they get in the way.



No, with Rossi out it changes things ...... but lets wait and see if it hots up or cools down

Valerian said:

Of course, it's not the same without Rossi. For some of us it's all we have ever known. I've only watched since the last year of 500s til now. And Rossi has always been a big part of the story. Whether he is the GOAT or not is debatable (I'll leave to those who have more knowledge than me) but he is certainly the most famouse motorcycle racer the world has ever known and transcends the sport. It will be a say day when he retires because he has given me so much entertainment. Anyway Biaggi is 39 and still going so why can't Rossi go on for another 8 years - assuming fib and tib are okay.



The thing to note about Rossi that he was almost always there at the sharp pointy end. Race in, race out he was fast.



Steve

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14 years... And over 10 in Top Class, always being Rossi against this or that Rider in pointy end, but always Rossi! Unlike any other Rider for all those years and still up till today. Did MotoGP lose when Doohan could not ride, of course! Did MotoGP lose when any Legend could not ride, of course! Hope Rossi gets back soon!

BarryMachine said:

How do you figure?



There is one huge battle looming right at P1.

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i'll bet you a pint that we don't have a finish with less than 1 second between 1st & 2nd til Rossi comes back



takers ?

baldylocks said:

i'll bet you a pint that we don't have a finish with less than 1 second between 1st & 2nd til Rossi comes back



takers ?

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Well thats a silly bet!!



How often does that happen anyway



Nice try, so nice I'll at least give you a tip on a good beer .......



try an Erdinger Weissbeer

BarryMachine said:

Well thats a silly bet!!

How often does that happen anyway

Nice try, so nice I'll at least give you a tip on a good beer

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try an Erdinger Weissbeer

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Not that silly bet. There has been 48 race finishes with less than one second between 1st and 2nd since 2000, in which Rossi was involved 38 times. Second place time to first since 2000:



2010, Jerez, PEDROSA Dani, 0.543.

2009, Sachsenring, LORENZO Jorge, 0.099 (Rossi wan).

2009, Laguna Seca, ROSSI Valentino, 0.344.

2009, Catalunya, LORENZO Jorge, 0.095 (Rossi wan).

2007, Estoril, PEDROSA Dani, 0.175 (Rossi wan).

2007, Catalunya, ROSSI Valentino, 0.069.

2006, Estoril, ROSSI Valentino, 0.002.

2006, Sepang, CAPIROSSI Loris, 0.849 (Rossi wan).

2006, Sachsenring, MELANDRI Marco, 0.145 (Rossi wan).

2006, Mugello, CAPIROSSI Loris, 0.575 (Rossi wan).

2006, Istanbul, STONER Casey, 0.2.

2006, Losail, HAYDEN Nicky, 0.9 (Rossi wan).

2005, Ricardo Tormo, HAYDEN Nicky, 0.097.

2005, Sachsenring, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.685 (Rossi wan).

2005, Mugello, BIAGGI Max, 0.359 (Rossi wan).

2005, Le Mans, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.382 (Rossi wan).

2004, Ricardo Tormo, BIAGGI Max, 0.425 (Rossi wan).

2004, Phillip Island, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.097 (Rossi wan).

2004, Sachsenring, BARROS Alex, 0.349.

2004, Assen, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.456 (Rossi wan).

2004, Catalunya, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.159 (Rossi wan).

2004, Mugello, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.361 (Rossi wan).

2004, Phakisa Freeway, BIAGGI Max, 0.21 (Rossi wan).

2003, Ricardo Tormo, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.681 (Rossi wan).

2003, Brno, GIBERNAU Sete, 0.042 (Rossi wan).

2003, Sachsenring, ROSSI Valentino, 0.06.

2003, Le Mans, ROSSI Valentino, 0.165.

2003, Phakisa Freeway, ROSSI Valentino, 0.363.

2002, Ricardo Tormo, ROSSI Valentino, 0.23.

2002, Sepang, ROSSI Valentino, 0.542.

2002, Sachsenring, BIAGGI Max, 0.73 (Rossi wan).

2002, Catalunya, UKAWA Tohru, 0.88 (Rossi wan).

2002, Le Mans, UKAWA Tohru, 0.217 (Rossi wan).

2002, Phakisa Freeway, ROSSI Valentino, 0.932.

2001, Nelson Piquet, CHECA Carlos, 0.143 (Rossi wan).

2001, Phillip Island, BIAGGI Max, 0.013 (Rossi wan).

2001, Ricardo Tormo, BARROS Alex, 0.293.

2001, Assen, ROSSI Valentino, 0.126.

2001, Phakisa Freeway, CAPIROSSI Loris, 0.66 (Rossi wan).

2001, Susuka, McCOY Garry, 0.724 (Rossi wan).

2000, Phillip Island, CAPIROSSI Loris, 0.182.

2000, Nelson Piquet, BARROS Alex, 0.97 (Rossi wan).

2000, Sachsenring, ROSSI Valentino, 0.078.

2000, Donington, ROBERTS JR Kenny, 0.395 (Rossi wan).

2000, Le Mans, ABE Norick, 0.321.

2000, Jerez, CHECA Carlos, 0.859.

2000, Susuka, ROBERTS JR Kenny, 0.279.

2000, Phakisa Freeway, CHECA Carlos, 0.366.

povol said:

All i know is i was following GP long before VR, and long before the internet and long before it ever got on TV. I used to wait for a month to get news on what was happening in GP from magazines.When Rossi leaves, it will not affect my status one bit, just one of the greats i have been lucky enough to witness in my life

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Beat me to it. Yes, Rossi is the Goat (insert exasperated sigh emoticon here) - but people were

at various times overcome with hagiographic hero-worship of Hailwood, Ago, Sheene, Roberts,

Spencer, Lawson etc. and when they moved on the sport continued to thrive. As for me - I'm sick

to death of the whole "Rossi is too big to fail" mentality. He is not "bigger than the sport" to real race fans.

Rossi's temporary departure - just shakes the pieces in the puzzle box around one more time and we end

up with a different picture - which to me is a good thing, as the season was already sizing up as largely predictable.

baldylocks said:

i'll bet you a pint that we don't have a finish with less than 1 second between 1st & 2nd til Rossi comes back



takers ?

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I'll take that bet. You're on.

Jumkie said:

I'll take that bet. You're on.

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[Spitsonhand] done [/spitsonhand]



PS thanks VHMP01 - smoke that BM

chopperman said:

For someone who claims to have followed gp/motogp since the 70's you sure have no understanding of 'prototype' racing.

So where have you been pinky ?

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If that isnt the ....... truth. He would be a huge fan of American Superbike and Daytona Sportbike. Prototype racing has nothing to do with equal equipment . Its about who can take the tech regs and build the baddest ... bike in those parameters. If your engineers are superior, so be it. More of the soccer mom mentality, where everyone gets to play and everyone gets a medal

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[Spitsonhand] done [/spitsonhand]



PS thanks VHMP01 - smoke that BM

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No sweat Baldy!

baldylocks said:

[Spitsonhand] done [/spitsonhand]



PS thanks VHMP01 - smoke that BM

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umm, you've only just taken the bet ......... not won it yet



unless ..... was the goal "to find someone stupid enough to bet against you"?

Scotty said:

motogp without Mr. Rossi will be a much better place especially if it will be like ‘moto2’ what wonderful racing we are seeing & experiencing on ‘moto2’ (I must add that we have never ever seen this sort of racing on the ‘500’s’ or ‘motogp’ ever, this is how it should be in ‘motogp’ none of these monopolies of factory bikes or certain advantages that these consortiums hold…it should be ‘A;; EQUAL’ and it should be up to the riders to make it happen…what do u all think???

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then it would need to be a spec class....tires, engines, frames, one brand. Then the riders can race this way. I like prototype racing and if I want spec class racing...I will watch AMA.