What do they think of Rossi?

I was thinking this last night while i was falling asleep.

Do you think there are any riders in the motogp paddock, or WSB paddock or any other paddock for that matter, that think they are better than Rossi?

If no-one thinks they are a better rider then do you think there are some riders who think that on their day they can beat him? THEN do you think that those riders think it would be possible to beat him enough in one season to win the title?

For us it seems that, it must be demorolising for a rider to think that they cant beat him.

Thoughts please.

Only person I beleive who can beat Rossi is the man himself!

Good topic Ron,

That rarely ever happens, but with the young pups being brought in who knows?

I mean Pedrosa seems to have settled in ok and has posted some fast times.

Sete was the nearly man of 2004 so anything is possible, as long as Rossi enjoys the wins and challenges the sport provides, he is likely to dominate till he gets fed up with it all.

I think they know Rossi is amazing but they also know he is only human and has been beaten before so why would they think that they couldn't beat him again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Jan 26 2006, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Do you think there are any riders in the motogp paddock, or WSB paddock or any other paddock for that matter, that think they are better than Rossi?

If no-one thinks they are a better rider then do you think there are some riders who think that on their day they can beat him? THEN do you think that those riders think it would be possible to beat him enough in one season to win the title?

For us it seems that, it must be demorolising for a rider to think that they cant beat him.

Thoughts please.
this is a very interesting question! hmmmmmm... as far as the 1st q is concerned i would have to say that all outwardly think they are as good, not better than him. but inwardly i'd say that only a few really believe that that's the case. which means they've already lost. as far as the 2nd q is concerned i'd say yes. that all of them think, on their day, they would be unbeatable. as for the 3rd q i'd say that said riders will be hoping that their day will be abundant through out the season.

They won't admit it, it would be too damaging to their confidence. It's all mind games. But there would be execptions. Biaggi probably still thinks he can But its that other Italian, Melandri, that should really be building his confidence up. Think about it, since taking his maiden victory, he hasn't lost a race. I know that's only two races but its at the end of the season, he's got a good bike and he's not injured. I think young Marco is starting to think his freind Rossi is beatable, and he's hungry for victory.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jan 27 2006, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They won't admit it, it would be too damaging to their confidence. It's all mind games. But there would be execptions. Biaggi probably still thinks he can But its that other Italian, Melandri, that should really be building his confidence up. Think about it, since taking his maiden victory, he hasn't lost a race. I know that's only two races but its at the end of the season, he's got a good bike and he's not injured. I think young Marco is starting to think his freind Rossi is beatable, and he's hungry for victory.

Spot on Richo. The fact is, is that you have to believe you can otherwise there is no point in getting out of bed. I don't think these guys can't admit it even inwardly because if they do they will be beaten before straddling the bike. The only guys who struggle are the ones that are suseptable to the mind games. When Rossi said to Sete (via the press) "You''ll not win again..." it beat him without Rossi having to prove it on track.

And that, mate, is the material proof of the curse. It's all mind games. I think if you look at the qualifying times from last year, and the preseason tests from last year and this year, (I know this is gonna kick up a stink but I'm gonna say it anyway) Sete Gibernau is the fastest rider in the motoGP. He's got skill, and a lot of it. Dare I say it, he is better than Valentino Rossi as a rider.
But as a racer he's a lot worse, simply because unlike Rossi he's not "Che spettacolo" in his own mind.
In that sense, Rossi's hooligan-comic charismatic personality helps him win races as opposed to Sete's much more calm demeanor.

I wouldn't go as far as to say Gibernau is a better rider than Rossi. Given he always has the fastest test times and qualifiers but those times are on sticky rubber. Rossi is always the fastest race pace because he doesn't worry about throwing on a sticky and doing a flier. Rossi spends his test and qualifying time working on settings and making sure the bike is in top shape for the race and he has said it before. He doesn't worry about a Q tire until about six minutes left in QP and then he goes for a good grid position. Test times mean nothing to him.

That's true, but you can't try to compare them on the track, when the green flags dropped, because that's when Rossi turns into an animal and his mind games eat Gibbers alive.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jan 27 2006, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's true, but you can't try to compare them on the track, when the green flags dropped, because that's when Rossi turns into an animal and his mind games eat Gibbers alive.

.......and not beause I want to get my post number up but right again Richo. One of the key differences is that Rossi not only plays the mind game, but he works out the race in his mind. He thinks and thinks and thinks some more.......

Gibber goes out and rides and that's where he also falls down.

I think racing is 30% riding and 70% mental (and not the insane type of mental lol)

race craft is where rossi excels, far above the others. i'd say richo's not that far off the mark about gibbers riding skills, or for that matter the rest of the guys. think about it. when ur at this level the phisical riding skills of these guy's are so close, if not literally equal. it's rossi's mental strength, & supreme race craft that give him a huge edge.

The guy's just so switched on, while other guys are thinking ahead to the next corner, he's thinking ahead to the next five laps.
And he's so confident, not egotistical, there's a diffrence.