VR Effect: Negative Repercussion for GP

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

Just read a tweet by Kropo that Marc Marquez continues to be the subject of harassment. People calling Marc to voice threats. His personal life has become altered. Now his personal space is no longer a place to relax and enjoy, but rather one where he has to wonder where the next crazy fan will invade. His work environment has become equally hostile, where scenes of VR associates and extensions of his entourage tried to invade the garage.

Iannone was the subject of awful and intense chastising by Rossi fans over merely doing what we tune in to see, racing; this was before Rossi’s McCarthyistic accusations.

So far we have seen several negative repercussions, starting with the tainting of a race that should have been cause for celebration now forever cast in aversion, Phillip Island, one of the best displays of racing, a four way battle, for the win, now the subject of unsubstantiated race fixing. Then the next race was cast as the smoking gun, the perverse standard was set in Sepang, where mere accusation became the yellow lense for which racing was viewed, not only by the paranoid contestant that perpetrated to eliminate a fellow competitor, but also for the governing body who acted upon that poisoned well. Enter Valencia, again an astounding racing performance by the winner, like Sepang, overshadowed by the extraordinary tainting of what actually occurred on the track, a rubbishing of a sublime execution of race pace. 3 of the best performances of the season now categorized by the overwhelming number of spectators, experts, journalists, racers and former racers, to be discussed as a debate of dubious behavior all because one sleep deprived paranoid frustrated man made unsubstantiated, pathetic, and reckless accusations.

The question for discussion: what short term and long term repercussions do you see over the off season, into next season, and ultimately going forward for the sport of MotoGP in regards to the extraordinary reaction that Rossi has openly infused into the narrative for the league, it's media, various experts, participants, and fandom?

evo9 · Nov 19, 2015

Basically he a planted a seed for future seasons as tainted if he does not reach his milestone 10th championship. With these ongoing harassment towards Marc. It would appear his plan for Marc was more long term than just PI & Sepang. Clearly he fears Marc more than he does Dani & Jorge. So what we are seen here is Cronus trying to eating his child. I for one will be waiting for the stone to be served.

Someone should tell Marc to move to North America. The rossi nut clingers on this side of the world are less obtrusive.

littlesparrows · Nov 19, 2015

i've grown tired of this whole discussion.

it's pretty much ruined the ending of the season for me because this is ALL EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT AND CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT.

i'm tired of this circle jerk.

maybe i'll take a hiatus from this cum filled forum, all everyone wants to do is burn rossi at the cross...even though their beloved Lorenzo won the championship in his slippery smooth ways.

maybe i'm a sour apple. who the .... knows?

dani (or iannone) 2016.

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

Fair enough. Actually there may be some positive news Sparrows. VR and Marc were in the same building together recently for some photo op. Something about Yamaha celebrating 60 years, etc. I don't really know too much details, but they stood for a picture, without looking at each other or shaking hands, haha. At least they didn't go UFC on eachother, eh? So maybe there is hope for an end to all this negatively.

propagandhi · Nov 19, 2015

Alright margarete. Run away with meth-fist-o?

shovelhead · Nov 19, 2015

There are more Rossi fans out there than all other fans combined.
It's a cult, just like any radical organization

Hollywood · Nov 19, 2015

Is it really a negative? At the moment the sport is a hot topic at a time of year when MotoGP is rarely discussed.

bh84 · Nov 19, 2015

.... happens, both riders will get over it and continue their already storied careers. Rossi is still and always will be among the all time greats, Marc has the potential to match or even surpass Rossi's accomplishments.

As for the fans, I'm a Rossi fan and as much as I wish what transpired never happened and we had a straight up race for the title, I'm looking forward to next season already. Unfortunately some Rossi fans are fanatical at minumum, and its those few that are making the reasonable, peaceful majority look bad.

shovelhead · Nov 19, 2015

Hollywood said:
Is it really a negative? At the moment the sport is a hot topic at a time of year when MotoGP is rarely discussed.

It is only negative when most Rossi fans are that,
Rossi fans and NOT Racing fans.

Like most hockey dads up here in Canada, "MY kid can do no wrong"

Dr No · Nov 19, 2015

Hasn't this topic been discussed before?
Y'know, in other threads.
Just trying to understand the phenomenon.

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

Dr No said:
Hasn't this topic been discussed before?
Y'know, in other threads.
Just trying to understand the phenomenon.

I scrolled down, all i saw were threads to sell erectile aids. Btw, How can I deactivate my account?

Gaz · Nov 19, 2015

shovelhead said:
It's a cult, just like any radical organization

Thus why I use the nickname LRon for Rossi

His cult members are no different to Scientologists in their radical extreme views that render any possibility for debate invalid.

Of course, there are many many fans of the sport first who are also Rossi fans and I readily exclude these from the cult mentality

That said, like others I do wonder if it is good or bad.

Yes the manner in which some have gone about cheapening the season's result is disappointing, but at the same time I am now seeing MotoGP mentioned in very mainstream newspapers and media outlets.

Admittedly the chatter is very much about 'fixing' and is very pro-Rossi but that is to be expected as for many who do not follow the sport, Rossi is a known name (just as Jordan was to non Basketballers etc). He transcends the sport and is newsworthy within the mainstream and as such he has led the news for years and will continue to do so.

Whether it is right is a personal opinion and I have mine, but there is always the saying 'any publicity is good publicity', and at the moment the sport is getting publicity

paparazzo · Nov 19, 2015

Juan Derribar said:
It will fester in the offseason but once the season starts, he will be relegated back to 4th best rider on the 4 best bikes. He will try to point fingers but it will be glaringly obvious to those paying attention that he's not fast enough. His perfect storm of events like this season will never happen and the yellow urine stream will circle the bowl and eventually be flushed away

Perfect storm of events? Really? I saw 4 very deserved wins and a few podiums with less than 2-3 seconds separating him from the leader. I saw a great drive from last on the grid to 4th at the last race. I still see a rider who despite his age has huge balls in wet conditions more than your top 3 riders will ever have. He may not match them in outright speed but on occasion there will be victories. Seriously though, comparing him to riders who are on equal or on better bikes that are 10-12 years younger and suggesting he will be 4th? GTFO genius

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

paparazzo said:
Perfect storm of events? Really? I saw 4 very deserved wins and a few podiums with less than 2-3 seconds separating him from the leader. I saw a great drive from last on the grid to 4th at the last race. I still see a rider who despite his age has huge balls in wet conditions more than your top 3 riders will ever have. He may not match them in outright speed but on occasion there will be victories. Seriously though, comparing him to riders who are on equal or on better bikes that are 10-12 years younger and suggesting he will be 4th? GTFO genius

This guy actually believes going from last to 4th was about Rossi. Hahaha dude you're useless. Had Rossi started from pole he would have ended 4th. And you want to talk "equal" machinery? Rossi has made a career of being on the best machinery with the best tires exclusively made for him to the detriment of everybody else.

paparazzo · Nov 19, 2015

Jumkie said:
This guy actually believes going from last to 4th was about Rossi. Hahaha dude you're useless. Had Rossi started from pole he would have ended 4th. And you want to talk "equal" machinery? Rossi has made a career of being on the best machinery with the best tires exclusively made for him to the detriment of everybody else.

And you know this for a fact, correct? All the races fixed for VR to win, for 15 years correct? Over 100 wins were because of the best bikes and best tires with supreme grip and no wearing out exclusively for him correct? You also forget to mention special turbo on VR's bikes and rocket fuel to power it, exclusive for him of course. I'm sure they gave him the best grid girls too correct?

Seriously, you are fast become a total joke here. So much hate has consumed you that you can't be objective in the slightest. Take your mouth out of Stoner's balls and stop embarrassing yourself.

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

paparazzo said:
And you know this for a fact, correct? All the races fixed for VR to win, for 15 years correct? Over 100 wins were because of the best bikes and best tires with supreme grip and no wearing out exclusively for him correct? You also forget to mention special turbo on VR's bikes and rocket fuel to power it, exclusive for him of course. I'm sure they gave him the best grid girls too correct?

Seriously, you are fast become a total joke here. So much hate has consumed you that you can't be objective in the slightest. Take your mouth out of Stoner's balls and stop embarrassing yourself.

You haven't been paying attention have you? The difference between the Suzuki and the Yamaha, or the Ducati and the Yamaha are infinitely nuanced, yet Rossi couldn't break into the top 5 for most of two years to save his life. And that's with Ducati Corse throwing everything at the project. Why do you think Rossi went ballistic on Michelin and threw them under the bus as soon as Bridgestone looked to have a small edge? Dude, what's the point of arguing with such a misinformed person like you? You're clueless. Hey, look Rossi went from last to 4th, wow! wow...WOW!

paparazzo · Nov 19, 2015

Jumkie said:
You haven't been paying attention have you? The difference between the Suzuki and the Yamaha, or the Ducati and the Yamaha are infinitely nuanced, yet Rossi couldn't break into the top 5 for most of two years to save his life. And that's with Ducati Corse throwing everything at the project. Why do you think Rossi went ballistic on Michelin and threw them under the bus as soon as Bridgestone looked to have a small edge? Dude, what's the point of arguing with such a misinformed person like you? You're clueless. Hey, look Rossi went from last to 4th, wow! wow...WOW!

I don't give a .... what you say, your 300,000 posts don't intimidated me. You are basically implying the only reason for his success is your conspiracy nonsense of special equipment for him and him only. This makes you totally clueless and biased, you can no longer think objectively. It is difficult to see this when Casey's balls are forever in your mouth.

Keshav · Nov 19, 2015

Hollywood said:
Is it really a negative? At the moment the sport is a hot topic at a time of year when MotoGP is rarely discussed.

Problem is - it ain't the sport that's being discussed. It's the ongoing soap opera which has little to do with the sport itself. Marquez is pretty thick-skinned. I don't imagine he really fears for his life. I doubt he gives a .... about the nut-cases. Rossi won't be relevant for much longer and Marquez should have many years ahead of him in which to burn through all of Rossi's records.

Dr No · Nov 19, 2015

paparazzo said:
I don't give a .... what you say, your 300,000 posts don't intimidated me. You are basically implying the only reason for his success is your conspiracy nonsense of special equipment for him and him only. This makes you totally clueless and biased, you can no longer think objectively. It is difficult to see this when Casey's balls are forever in your mouth.

Can you make a post in this thread that doesn't mention Casey's sack? You seem obsessed with them.
Is it just CS's sack you are fascinated with, or could you spice things up with say, mention of Pedrosa's cojones?

Jumkie · Nov 19, 2015

paparazzo said:
I don't give a .... what you say, your 300,000 posts don't intimidated me. You are basically implying the only reason for his success is your conspiracy nonsense of special equipment for him and him only. This makes you totally clueless and biased, you can no longer think objectively. It is difficult to see this when Casey's balls are forever in your mouth.

Of course you don't care about the truth, you're the type of person who is the typical Jim Jones follower, no amount of truth or reason will stop you from drinking the Culo aid.

Conspiracy? Haha you're the one who believes there was a conspiracy by Marquez to steal Rossi's title. And it's good that you bring up Casey Stoner, the contrast will always highlight what a failure the artificial GLOAT is when not on the best machinery. Just another midpack rider. Forever when Stoner's name is invoked it will invoke the contrast of Rossi’s doctored career.

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