Vinales remains suspended for British GP

#22 · Aug 18, 2021

Crutchlow to step up to the factory team, with Jake Dixon taking the 2nd SRT seat with a view to being offered a full time ride in 2022.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-wont-allow-vinales-british-gp/6649921/

Keshav · Aug 18, 2021

Not surprised. The Japanese are not known to overlook serious breaches of etiquette or disrespect for management. To his fans, Vinnie is superstar. To Yamaha, he’s a temp worker with a two-year contract.

Hollywood · Aug 18, 2021

he burned the bridge, I dont think he is going to be back on an M1 this season.

Since he has not been terminated, is he still getting paid?

misfit · Aug 18, 2021

Hollywood said:
he burned the bridge, I dont think he is going to be back on an M1 this season.

Since he has not been terminated, is he still getting paid?

Likely not, since it's a disciplinary matter rather than an investigation out of Yamaha's jurisdiction, like that of Aprilla and the doping investigation with Andrea Iannone.

stnd · Aug 18, 2021

Much better strategy than sabotaging his bike to prevent him taking points away from Fabio. (Puts on tinfoil hat)

p4p1 · Aug 18, 2021

misfit said:
Likely not, since it's a disciplinary matter rather than an investigation out of Yamaha's jurisdiction, like that of Aprilla and the doping investigation with Andrea Iannone.

Isn't it a Yamaha disciplinary action though? That's what I thought I read.

michaelm · Aug 18, 2021

stnd said:
Much better strategy than sabotaging his bike to prevent him taking points away from Fabio. (Puts on tinfoil hat)

Not a bad conspiracy theory as such theories go. Sure on his day Vinales can beat FQ straight up.

Hollywood · Aug 18, 2021

I would imagine that a contract has language in it that protects the team from having to pay a rider who failed a drug test. However specific language regarding sabotage, may not be something they even thought about. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

Keshav · Aug 18, 2021

I can't imagine there not being a clause in the contract to enforce punitive damages against an employee who consciously engages in reckless behavior resulting in damage to property or reputation, or words to that effect. Vinales isn't the first ever rider to throw the toys out of the pram.

misfit · Aug 18, 2021

p4p1 said:
Isn't it a Yamaha disciplinary action though? That's what I thought I read.

Yes. This is why I think he’s likely not being paid.

p4p1 · Aug 18, 2021

misfit said:
Yes. This is why I think he’s likely not being paid.

Yep, I just reread your post and I misunderstood it the first time I read it.

I doubt he is that worried about the money. Money is secondary and wanting to be the highest paid is probably more of an ego trip rather than a desperate need or want for money/being rich.

Barbedwirebikerr · Aug 20, 2021

Just read that he is finished. Yamaha terminated the contract effectively immediately.

Macca · Aug 20, 2021

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Just read that he is finished. Yamaha terminated the contract effectively immediately.

I hope he just leaves it for the rest of this season racing-wise. Take a few weeks off, relax then get some tests done with Aprilia.

The last thing he needs right now is to jump on the Aprilia straight away and try to race it...

JPSLotus · Aug 20, 2021

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Just read that he is finished. Yamaha terminated the contract effectively immediately.

The only surprise is it took them this long to terminate the contract.

What a stupid ....... .......

There is however a learning opportunities to be had here for all up and coming riders about what happens when you decide to act like a 3 year old instead of a grown adult GP rider.

Keshav · Aug 20, 2021

JPSLotus said:
The only surprise is it took them this long to terminate the contract.

What a stupid ....... .......

There is however a learning opportunities to be had here for all up and coming riders about what happens when you decide to act like a 3 year old instead of a grown adult GP rider.

If you follow international business news, you know that the Japanese politicians and corporate types regularly express their disdain for Western culture - because of the Japanese perception of the sloppiness of Western manufacturing and the general lack of discipline in Western culture. If they could produce Japanese riders as good as the best Western riders, European riders would always being 2nd tier members on the teams. Vinales’ termination sends a message to all riders. As far as Yamaha is concerned, the star of the show, is the bike, not the rider. And you don’t .... with the star.

misfit · Aug 20, 2021

Keshav said:
If you follow international business news, you know that the Japanese politicians and corporate types regularly express their disdain for Western culture - because of the Japanese perception of the sloppiness of Western manufacturing and the general lack of discipline in Western culture. If they could produce Japanese riders as good as the best Western riders, European riders would always being 2nd tier members on the teams. Vinales’ termination sends a message to all riders. As far as Yamaha is concerned, the star of the show, is the bike, not the rider. And you don’t .... with the star.

Ducati?

Riders come and go. I can understand the teams position, especially on matters as these. There are so many other prospects. Why waste a moment longer with a rider who has clearly fallen out of love with the team to the point of overtly destructive behaviour.

michaelm · Aug 20, 2021

misfit said:
Ducati?

Riders come and go. I can understand the teams position, especially on matters as these. There are so many other prospects. Why waste a moment longer with a rider who has clearly fallen out of love with the team to the point of overtly destructive behaviour.

Maybe he even wanted this, he was obviously miserable at Yamaha.

Hollywood · Aug 20, 2021

So what are the chances Aprilia gives him a wild card before the end of the season?

Keshav · Aug 20, 2021

Hollywood said:
So what are the chances Aprilia gives him a wild card before the end of the season?

It wouldn’t surprise me if Yamaha has a clause to prevent that, even post-dismissal, something they could at their discretion choose to overlook as a good will gesture to a competing team.

misfit · Aug 20, 2021

michaelm said:
Maybe he even wanted this, he was obviously miserable at Yamaha.

Agreed.

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