Valentina Rossi withdraws CAS appeal

Only surprise is he waited as long as he did to drop it.

I'm not sure that its the inability to disprove his guilt so much as its not going to be of any benefit to him now. Title's lost, there's nothing against him moving forward. What's the point of pursuing it?

This sentence is in the article:

"Having now lost the championship to Lorenzo, the Italian has decided it is not worth continuing to contest the three penalty points."

I have to wonder if these really are Rossi's sentiments or if the writer of the article is just editorializing the situation with his own opinions. For all we know, Rossi is still as angry as ever and does in fact think that it is worth it to continue his appeal on principle, but his PR people are begging him to drop it for how much it can tarnish his legacy.

Then again, maybe he really did feel like dropping it. We won't know until he says something about it in an interview.

One frustrating aspect of being a MotoGP fan is that so much of the "news" is just little tidbits of information, which is basically just chum in the water, then everybody starts ripping each other apart over it.

bh84 said:

I'm not sure that its the inability to disprove his guilt so much as its not going to be of any benefit to him now. Title's lost, there's nothing against him moving forward. What's the point of pursuing it?

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Not exactly, those 3 points will remain on his license till Valencia 2016, if he loses his mind again and gets even more points, it could cost him. My concern is that once he realizes he is not championship material on his own skills or without misfortune of others, he will become extremely bitter and start using his presence to ensure riders such as Marquez and Lorenzo cant win championships or match his records. With his ego, i can see a day when Dorna is forced to part ways with Rossi in a very unceremonious way.

povol said:

Not exactly, those 3 points will remain on his license till Valencia 2016, if he loses his mind again and gets even more points, it could cost him. My concern is that once he realizes he is not championship material on his own skills or without misfortune of others, he will become extremely bitter and start using his presence to ensure riders such as Marquez and Lorenzo cant win championships or match his records. With his ego, i can see a day when Dorna is forced to part ways with Rossi in a very unceremonious way.

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My concern with the 2016 championship is how Rossi is going to choose to conduct himself. My guess is the pre-race press conference in Losail is going to tell us quite a bit. If he is still ranting about 2015, I have genuine concerns about his being on the track in 2016 because of the risk he may be putting Marc Marquez at.

JPSLotus said:

I have genuine concerns about his being on the track in 2016 because of the risk he may be putting Marc Marquez at.

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Like the risk MM put him at in Sepang? MM was a very dangerous rider well before the Sepang incident. Lets not forget race control said he was partially to blame for crashing but he technically didn't do anything illegal. And that includes ramming Rossi's bike repeatedly which I don't understand how that doesn't fall under dangerous riding which is.

Next year will be interesting on many fronts. If Rossi retaliates and keeps MM from winning that's great and it's also legal. That was something MM did, and did very well. The shoe on the other foot will be hard for many to take.

T Wrecks said:

Like the risk MM put him at in Sepang? MM was a very dangerous rider well before the Sepang incident. Lets not forget race control said he was partially to blame for crashing but he technically didn't do anything illegal. And that includes ramming Rossi's bike repeatedly which I don't understand how that doesn't fall under dangerous riding which is.

Next year will be interesting on many fronts. If Rossi retaliates and keeps MM from winning that's great and it's also legal. That was something MM did, and did very well. The shoe on the other foot will be hard for many to take.

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MM did not put VR at risk at Sepang.

Race control had zero proof and never should have said what they did. It was highly prejudicial and UNPROFESSIONAL.

He did not ram Rossi's bike at all.

Stop making .... up and go home.

T Wrecks said:

Like the risk MM put him at in Sepang? MM was a very dangerous rider well before the Sepang incident. Lets not forget race control said he was partially to blame for crashing but he technically didn't do anything illegal. And that includes ramming Rossi's bike repeatedly which I don't understand how that doesn't fall under dangerous riding which is.

Next year will be interesting on many fronts. If Rossi retaliates and keeps MM from winning that's great and it's also legal. That was something MM did, and did very well. The shoe on the other foot will be hard for many to take.

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They never touched until Rossi purposely ran him wide. The one time they almost touched before then would have been on Rossi. Marquez was racing him hard, but thats racing Casey, ummm Vale.

T Wrecks said:

Like the risk MM put him at in Sepang? MM was a very dangerous rider well before the Sepang incident. Lets not forget race control said he was partially to blame for crashing but he technically didn't do anything illegal. And that includes ramming Rossi's bike repeatedly which I don't understand how that doesn't fall under dangerous riding which is.

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MM did NOT 'ram Rossis bike repeatedly' during Sepang.

There was one contact and one contact only which Race Direction found to have been caused by Rossi's actions.

T Wrecks said:

Next year will be interesting on many fronts. If Rossi retaliates and keeps MM from winning that's great and it's also legal. That was something MM did, and did very well. The shoe on the other foot will be hard for many to take.

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Quite the contrary actually for a few reasons.

1. You and others say that MM rode to impede Rossi, thus it was Rossi retaliating to perceived (real or imagined) provocation.

2. This means that if Rossi rides in a manner to impede thence he is riding like a '....' to quote some. Only it MM does an illegal action is he (MM) retaliating.

3. RD did comment (poorly it must be said as there was no proof) about MM's riding at Sepang. Thus, should Rossi ride similarly in 2016 he MUST be equally sanctioned by RD (and it must be said, MM's supposed riding like a .... mirrored actions of Rossi and others so is and was not new - just that the person on the receiving end had not experienced it recently)

4. RD will be keeping a firm eye on things between these two from race 1 so any or all actions will be closely scrutinised. I for one just hope that they do it fairly and do not allow popularity to cloud judgements

povol said:

Not exactly, those 3 points will remain on his license till Valencia 2016, if he loses his mind again and gets even more points, it could cost him. My concern is that once he realizes he is not championship material on his own skills or without misfortune of others, he will become extremely bitter and start using his presence to ensure riders such as Marquez and Lorenzo cant win championships or match his records. With his ego, i can see a day when Dorna is forced to part ways with Rossi in a very unceremonious way.

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Thanks for the reminder Pov ............. I had forgotten about the points and was thinking that he now had nothing to gain from a successful appeal but your point is very true .............. one stuff up and he is at the back again

Gaz said:

Thanks for the reminder Pov ............. I had forgotten about the points and was thinking that he now had nothing to gain from a successful appeal but your point is very true .............. one stuff up and he is at the back again

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Unless they start issuing points by fraction or decimal, which I wouldn't doubt.

Rossi stuffs Marquez. Crap, we don't want the Doctored starting from the pit lane do we? Wait wait, lets check to see the championship standings before we decide just how 'dangerous' was his move. Oh wait, he is in the top 4, ok, lets issue him 1/5 a ..... point.

kurre said:

This sentence is in the article:

"Having now lost the championship to Lorenzo, the Italian has decided it is not worth continuing to contest the three penalty points."

I have to wonder if these really are Rossi's sentiments or if the writer of the article is just editorializing the situation with his own opinions. For all we know, Rossi is still as angry as ever and does in fact think that it is worth it to continue his appeal on principle, but his PR people are begging him to drop it for how much it can tarnish his legacy.

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Good point. I doubt he would have dropped an appeal if he thought he could win. Especially as Povol points out, he carries that black mark on his license for a year (I hope the 2016 title doesn't come down to Valencia for Marquez, because this could really set up a dangerous situation if VR went into the final round with a clean license). If Rossi thought he could win in court, it would have gone a long way in vindicating this notion that he has created of being unjustly victimized. So winning a court battle would look great. Thing is, the opposite (in a normal world) is true. That is, if he lost, which is likely, then it would be certainly a better PR damage control to "withdraw." I'm sure Rossi calculated his likelihood of losing this claim, and the upside in terms of optics is it looks 'gracious' to withdraw. Tell me his ardent supporters won't look at his withdraw with admiration, you see, Valentino is the bigger man.

Now speaking of the author, I suspect it was a good idea for the bloke not to have published his name, surely he'd be getting hate mail by now for the following part:


"Rossi was penalised for 'deliberately forcing another rider off line, resulting in contact causing the other rider to crash' on lap 7 of the Sepang race."

Its the first time I have seen a media person write it like this in one sentence. Usually they won't describe the crash as directly CAUSED by Rossi's actions. It had become debatable (as insane as that sounds) 'who' caused the crash.

That gave me a good idea for a signature.

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JPSLotus said:

My concern with the 2016 championship is how Rossi is going to choose to conduct himself. My guess is the pre-race press conference in Losail is going to tell us quite a bit. If he is still ranting about 2015, I have genuine concerns about his being on the track in 2016 because of the risk he may be putting Marc Marquez at.

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Vale is too much of a showman to publically reference the 2015 debacle in the new season. Come Qatar - he'll be doing his best to pretend he doesn't care. That's his style.

I wouldn't worry about MM. He's not the sharpest knife in the draw but - assuming the 2016 bike works well with the new rubber - he'll be busy putting the past behind him and concentrating on going for another championship. I think we all pretty much agree 2015 was Rossi's Waterloo. He'll be in the mix but I can't see him being the spoiler. In light of all the negativity he garnered - there has to be a lessening of his influence as well.

I read somewhere that his CAS appeal could possibly even result in a harsher punishment for the mistake he made in Sepang. He might have found out there was no cool-aid being sold in the courthouse!

Keshav said:

Vale is too much of a showman to publically reference the 2015 debacle in the new season. Come Qatar - he'll be doing his best to pretend he doesn't care. That's his style.

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Yep, agreed.

He will be all smiles in public but one suspects that underneath the fires will still be burning, and given that we have not seen any attempts to extinguish the flames I suspect that nothing will change in that regard come 2016.

Keshav said:

I wouldn't worry about MM. He's not the sharpest knife in the draw but - assuming the 2016 bike works well with the new rubber - he'll be busy putting the past behind him and concentrating on going for another championship. I think we all pretty much agree 2015 was Rossi's Waterloo. He'll be in the mix but I can't see him being the spoiler. In light of all the negativity he garnered - there has to be a lessening of his influence as well.

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I actually think that MM has already put the past behind him and I say that as in his mind (and no, I am not making judgements either way), but in his mind he did nothing wrong and thus has nothing to get over.

2016 will see him return to racing well, racing hard with what will be will be in so far as the end results

evo9 said:

Can't disprove his guilt for kicking Marc off his bike in Sepang flossi decides to drop CAS appeal.



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I'm glad he dropped it Not surprising as it was futile. CAS doesn't so much in the way of interpreting a sport's internal rules. More the effect of externalities such as The Drugs and bollox contract disputes.

But to contradict you. The case had nothing to do with Rossi's kick, but the softcockedness that Rossi had been "damaged" by the penalty.
Sounds ludicrous because it ....... is. What the mollyfuck else is a penalty for?