So there you have it berry. Just about everyone here has seen your tricks, read your bull and no longer takes you seriously. Never mind mate im sure there's plenty of other forums out there you can get a bite on to feed your sad trolling internet persona.
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Well you go right ahead and back it in with the rear brake or downshifting Rog,
See how far that gets you
As to whether a bunch of yahoos on the net get the sooks with me ...... boohoo Rog.
Arab gave the wrong advice, ( as it has pretty clear he has gleaned his riding expertise from watching video's ), I corrected it ............ you all chuck a big sook ......... get over it
Seems the usual bunch too, and you even sook at me even though you disagree with Arab. Get real Rog.
A bunch of boppers dislike anything I say ....... well "woe is me" .......damn i will probably put me off my sliding
You are a funny bloke Rog.
See how far that gets you
As to whether a bunch of yahoos on the net get the sooks with me ...... boohoo Rog.
Arab gave the wrong advice, ( as it has pretty clear he has gleaned his riding expertise from watching video's ), I corrected it ............ you all chuck a big sook ......... get over it
Seems the usual bunch too, and you even sook at me even though you disagree with Arab. Get real Rog.
A bunch of boppers dislike anything I say ....... well "woe is me" .......damn i will probably put me off my sliding
You are a funny bloke Rog.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 4 2010, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't misquote me Berry or take it out of context. For the record if you're going to attribute something to me use a genuine quote - you'll find I can spell the word 'by' unlike yourself. I have qualified what I meant on about 15 posts now - and as you well know, I have differentiated innumerable times between a powerslide and backing it in. You said that when slowing for a corner you slide your 749s 'with ease'. You apparently achieve that without the use of either downshifting or rear brake, but by purely closing the throttle - well done.
Also, why do you keep referring to me as a 'bopper?' On behalf of who?
Backing a bike in is achieved by the utilising the rear brake and the downshift. As I pointed out, the link you provided on your own post on this very thread confirms precisely that you imbecile.
Whenever someone calls you out or proves you wrong - you simply ignore it.
I say again, a very crude example but a lucid one all the same.
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No you didn't you posted some pictures lifted from photobucket of some guy on a motocross bike which you said was you. Being as you have a history of going back and editing your own posts, it was very probably you that contemplated removing these once Pigeon and I rumbled you. Why would the mods delete these? Answer is, they haven't - they're all still there you fool.
None of the links I provided ever said you back the bike in by using the back brake or downshifting.
They all say pretty much the same as I said.
You have posted video's and expected me to misinterpret them the same as you. Even afer years of riding experience
here's he "pic" of me you say I lifted:
And I gues by your reckoning I must have lifted the original old paper photo too
As I said, it means nothing to me if you disbelieve me, other than to make me feel proud
however it does say a lot to me as to how much "real" riding you have done, since you found something as simple as that photo as "unbelievable"
Must chase up the relo's for some old film footage for you too
You seem a very confused person in you last few posts, one minute you say I misquoted you saying that backing it in is initiated by rear brake or downshifting ( which implies that you did not say that
) , then next thing you are still saying your misinterpreted videos show that you do initiate backing it in by rear brake or downshifting.
I'm only posting this as you havegone back through this post and editted it, in an attempt to soften your original error about "backing it in".
Again you have obviously never "backed it in" or you never would have said it
Which makesme wonder why Roger is so ready to believe that "backing it in" has something to do with arses
But one never knows what Rog. has been up to I guess ( he certainly finds the act of "backing it into someones arse" very believeable
ie. not very far from his real of reality
Also, why do you keep referring to me as a 'bopper?' On behalf of who?
Backing a bike in is achieved by the utilising the rear brake and the downshift. As I pointed out, the link you provided on your own post on this very thread confirms precisely that you imbecile.
Whenever someone calls you out or proves you wrong - you simply ignore it.
I say again, a very crude example but a lucid one all the same.
<object width="425" height="350<param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/l8dMRtxjoN0</param><param name="wmode" value="transparent</param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/l8dMRtxjoN0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350</embed></object>
No you didn't you posted some pictures lifted from photobucket of some guy on a motocross bike which you said was you. Being as you have a history of going back and editing your own posts, it was very probably you that contemplated removing these once Pigeon and I rumbled you. Why would the mods delete these? Answer is, they haven't - they're all still there you fool.
None of the links I provided ever said you back the bike in by using the back brake or downshifting.
They all say pretty much the same as I said.
You have posted video's and expected me to misinterpret them the same as you. Even afer years of riding experience
here's he "pic" of me you say I lifted:
And I gues by your reckoning I must have lifted the original old paper photo too
As I said, it means nothing to me if you disbelieve me, other than to make me feel proud
You seem a very confused person in you last few posts, one minute you say I misquoted you saying that backing it in is initiated by rear brake or downshifting ( which implies that you did not say that
I'm only posting this as you havegone back through this post and editted it, in an attempt to soften your original error about "backing it in".
Again you have obviously never "backed it in" or you never would have said it
Which makesme wonder why Roger is so ready to believe that "backing it in" has something to do with arses
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 10 2010, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>None of the links I provided ever said you back the bike in by using the back brake or downshifting.
They all say pretty much the same as I said.
You have posted video's and expected me to misinterpret them the same as you. Even afer years of riding experience
here's he "pic" of me you say I lifted:
And I gues by your reckoning I must have lifted the original old paper photo too
As I said, it means nothing to me if you disbelieve me, other than to make me feel proud
however it does say a lot to me as to how much "real" riding you have done, since you found something as simple as that photo as "unbelievable"
Must chase up the relo's for some old film footage for you too
You seem a very confused person in you last few posts, one minute you say I misquoted you saying that backing it in is initiated by rear brake or downshifting ( which implies that you did not say that
) , then next thing you are still saying your misinterpreted videos show that you do initiate backing it in by rear brake or downshifting.
I'm only posting this as you havegone back through this post and editted it, in an attempt to soften your original error about "backing it in".
Again you have obviously never "backed it in" or you never would have said it
Which makesme wonder why Roger is so ready to believe that "backing it in" has something to do with arses
But one never knows what Rog. has been up to I guess ( he certainly finds the act of "backing it into someones arse" very believeable
ie. not very far from his real of reality
For a start thats on dirt not tarmac, from the pic how can we tell if your backing in or powersliding out. oh sorry i forgot, you dont know the difference.
So thats you is it berry. So what bike is that then ?
They all say pretty much the same as I said.
You have posted video's and expected me to misinterpret them the same as you. Even afer years of riding experience
here's he "pic" of me you say I lifted:
And I gues by your reckoning I must have lifted the original old paper photo too
As I said, it means nothing to me if you disbelieve me, other than to make me feel proud
You seem a very confused person in you last few posts, one minute you say I misquoted you saying that backing it in is initiated by rear brake or downshifting ( which implies that you did not say that
I'm only posting this as you havegone back through this post and editted it, in an attempt to soften your original error about "backing it in".
Again you have obviously never "backed it in" or you never would have said it
Which makesme wonder why Roger is so ready to believe that "backing it in" has something to do with arses
For a start thats on dirt not tarmac, from the pic how can we tell if your backing in or powersliding out. oh sorry i forgot, you dont know the difference.
So thats you is it berry. So what bike is that then ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Mar 10 2010, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what bike is that then ?
Its an old Elsinore 250 ( CR250M? )( though then not old
), think it was the second model? It was my brothers bike, as at that time I was on a Yamaha.
In standard colours it looked like this:
soebody has restored that one ...... seat looks a bot odd though I don't remember it being that "puffy"
don't know if it had them then but at some stage I put laid forward Girling? or Koni? rear shocks on it.
Can't say exactly whether it was backing it in or powering it out, cos in reality it was one and the same, ie. the whole point was to take the corner in as fast a manner as possible, that usually meant that the slide was pretty seamless and the speed was scrubbed off by hanging the back out more ....... ie. taking the corner was a study in vectors, breaking traction allowed the rear wheel to skip out so that the sideskip was used to slow the bike, and yet by not skidding ( with the brake
) but by keeping the traction broken by acceleration, the driving force helped to propel the bike the into corner against the momentum that was trying to make the bike take off at a tangent to the corner. Hence by not skidding ( braking ) you actually have a greater force trying to keep you into the corner. Even though a tyre has broken traction it still has a coefficient of friction that follows all the laws of physics.
No that track was not tarmac, it was an old private practice track that was an oiled dirt surface ....... which the EPA seems to say no to these days
But tarmac or dirt the technque is the same, is just that with tarmac "the stakes" seem higher
Oh and the front brake gets the backend loose before the corner on tarmac whereas to touch the front brake on dirt is a near death experience.
I would guess that that was slowing into a corner though, cos there is less of a rooster tail out the back, and my foot is pretty well up whilst really powering out of corners, and I'm pretty sure I had the same technique back then too....... That and that photo was taken at a spot at the end of a big sweeper just before the corner tightened pretty sharply.
Its an old Elsinore 250 ( CR250M? )( though then not old
In standard colours it looked like this:
soebody has restored that one ...... seat looks a bot odd though I don't remember it being that "puffy"
don't know if it had them then but at some stage I put laid forward Girling? or Koni? rear shocks on it.
Can't say exactly whether it was backing it in or powering it out, cos in reality it was one and the same, ie. the whole point was to take the corner in as fast a manner as possible, that usually meant that the slide was pretty seamless and the speed was scrubbed off by hanging the back out more ....... ie. taking the corner was a study in vectors, breaking traction allowed the rear wheel to skip out so that the sideskip was used to slow the bike, and yet by not skidding ( with the brake
No that track was not tarmac, it was an old private practice track that was an oiled dirt surface ....... which the EPA seems to say no to these days
I would guess that that was slowing into a corner though, cos there is less of a rooster tail out the back, and my foot is pretty well up whilst really powering out of corners, and I'm pretty sure I had the same technique back then too....... That and that photo was taken at a spot at the end of a big sweeper just before the corner tightened pretty sharply.
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