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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ May 4 2009, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep on dreaming buddy.... it's Hiroshi Aoyoma who's going to be 250cc Champion in 2009.
Keep dreamin'!!! The only Japanese rider who will have a real championship will be Haga.
Keep dreamin'!!! The only Japanese rider who will have a real championship will be Haga.
The latest rumour I heard was regarding Total Oils, Tech 3, and Leon Haslam.
I heard that Total oils, formally known as Elf were looking to be a title sponser in MotoGP and are keen to sponsor Tech 3 due to the French connection being Tech 3 french team, and Elf french oil company.
Herve Poncharal can choose one rider, basically a open budget, but one of the two man team has to Leon Haslam as the French Oil firm arevery fond of the haslam family thanks to rocket Ron Haslam, and there delightfull past.
So Team would be known as Total Tech 3.
Make of that what you will.
I heard that Total oils, formally known as Elf were looking to be a title sponser in MotoGP and are keen to sponsor Tech 3 due to the French connection being Tech 3 french team, and Elf french oil company.
Herve Poncharal can choose one rider, basically a open budget, but one of the two man team has to Leon Haslam as the French Oil firm arevery fond of the haslam family thanks to rocket Ron Haslam, and there delightfull past.
So Team would be known as Total Tech 3.
Make of that what you will.
We might call it 'silly' season, but please incorporate known facts:
Loris is out, but will guest ride to get 300 GP's.
Simoncelli wants to race in GP's, not WSBK. He's admitted that the Ducati is not suitable for him. So he can go to Yam, Honda, or Suzuki. He's Rossi's friend. Do the math.
Bautista wants a bike with Aspar. Whether that's Yamaha or Suzuki is unknown.
Livio is impatient and won't tolerate Hayden lagging behind Kallio.
Pedrosa has openly admitted that 'there may be other brands'
Melandri having a blast and probably wouldn't want to leave if he can even get modest factory support. Kawa have no reason to deny him this.
Lorenzo wants to be a #1 rider. Since he hasn't already re-signed with Yam, he's considering other options. If Honda get's it's bike issues fixed before contract time, they have the funds and desire to sign him.
Edwards wont be sacked if he keeps putting up numbers.
Randy is just beginning to show his potential.
Nobody expected anything from Cannepa. He's never raced any of these GP's.
JT already won WSBK, and probably does not want to go back just yet. Bradley Smith needs 3 more years and Moto2 is just around the corner.
Spies is 'not in a hurry' to leave WSBK.
CV is a well liked and respected rider who Suzuki rates higher than 2008 Ben Spies.
Loris is out, but will guest ride to get 300 GP's.
Simoncelli wants to race in GP's, not WSBK. He's admitted that the Ducati is not suitable for him. So he can go to Yam, Honda, or Suzuki. He's Rossi's friend. Do the math.
Bautista wants a bike with Aspar. Whether that's Yamaha or Suzuki is unknown.
Livio is impatient and won't tolerate Hayden lagging behind Kallio.
Pedrosa has openly admitted that 'there may be other brands'
Melandri having a blast and probably wouldn't want to leave if he can even get modest factory support. Kawa have no reason to deny him this.
Lorenzo wants to be a #1 rider. Since he hasn't already re-signed with Yam, he's considering other options. If Honda get's it's bike issues fixed before contract time, they have the funds and desire to sign him.
Edwards wont be sacked if he keeps putting up numbers.
Randy is just beginning to show his potential.
Nobody expected anything from Cannepa. He's never raced any of these GP's.
JT already won WSBK, and probably does not want to go back just yet. Bradley Smith needs 3 more years and Moto2 is just around the corner.
Spies is 'not in a hurry' to leave WSBK.
CV is a well liked and respected rider who Suzuki rates higher than 2008 Ben Spies.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ May 5 2009, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We might call it 'silly' season, but please incorporate known facts:
Loris is out, but will guest ride to get 300 GP's.
Simoncelli wants to race in GP's, not WSBK. He's admitted that the Ducati is not suitable for him. So he can go to Yam, Honda, or Suzuki. He's Rossi's friend. Do the math.
Bautista wants a bike with Aspar. Whether that's Yamaha or Suzuki is unknown.
Livio is impatient and won't tolerate Hayden lagging behind Kallio.
Melandri having a blast and probably wouldn't want to leave if he can even get modest factory support. Kawa have no reason to deny him this.
Lorenzo wants to be a #1 rider. Since he hasn't already re-signed with Yam, he's considering other options. If Honda get's it's bike issues fixed before contract time, they have the funds and desire to sign him.
Edwards wont be sacked if he keeps putting up numbers.
Randy is just beginning to show his potential.
Nobody expected anything from Cannepa. He's never raced any of these GP's.
JT already wont WSBK, and probably does not want to go back just yet.
Spies is 'not in a hurry' to leave WSBK.
To late for Randy. The only thing he has going for himself is that he is the only french rider in the big boy class.
Nicolo can't possibly be there next year unless he gets decent results. He will be back to testing.
JT won't have a ride in GP since he pretty much is a waste nowadays. He divided his team and the better rider of the two is motivated to help get rid of him by bringing in....
Ben Spies who never really wanted to be in SBK. All he talked about in the interviews was GP this and GP that. HE even calls it his ultimate goal. If he is offered a ride with Tech he will be there will cowbells on.
As far as ducati goes, I can see Loris returning either to the factory or a sat team. MOst likely the latter since ducati wants youth as does any team for longevity.
Loris is out, but will guest ride to get 300 GP's.
Simoncelli wants to race in GP's, not WSBK. He's admitted that the Ducati is not suitable for him. So he can go to Yam, Honda, or Suzuki. He's Rossi's friend. Do the math.
Bautista wants a bike with Aspar. Whether that's Yamaha or Suzuki is unknown.
Livio is impatient and won't tolerate Hayden lagging behind Kallio.
Melandri having a blast and probably wouldn't want to leave if he can even get modest factory support. Kawa have no reason to deny him this.
Lorenzo wants to be a #1 rider. Since he hasn't already re-signed with Yam, he's considering other options. If Honda get's it's bike issues fixed before contract time, they have the funds and desire to sign him.
Edwards wont be sacked if he keeps putting up numbers.
Randy is just beginning to show his potential.
Nobody expected anything from Cannepa. He's never raced any of these GP's.
JT already wont WSBK, and probably does not want to go back just yet.
Spies is 'not in a hurry' to leave WSBK.
To late for Randy. The only thing he has going for himself is that he is the only french rider in the big boy class.
Nicolo can't possibly be there next year unless he gets decent results. He will be back to testing.
JT won't have a ride in GP since he pretty much is a waste nowadays. He divided his team and the better rider of the two is motivated to help get rid of him by bringing in....
Ben Spies who never really wanted to be in SBK. All he talked about in the interviews was GP this and GP that. HE even calls it his ultimate goal. If he is offered a ride with Tech he will be there will cowbells on.
As far as ducati goes, I can see Loris returning either to the factory or a sat team. MOst likely the latter since ducati wants youth as does any team for longevity.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yello13 @ May 4 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sounds good except they can't put simoncelli on marlboro due to the new rules. Kallio would have to slide up to hayden's spot and simoncelli onto pramac. Simoncelli could still get the factory support under a pramac fairing, with kallio being left out to dry with a factory livery on a satellite interior, which is such an obvious loophole on the rookie rule I wonder why dorna even bothered.
The rookie rule is not designed to keep rookies from riding factory equipment. The rule was designed to help satellite teams attract sponsors with top GP rookies.
The rookie rule is not designed to keep rookies from riding factory equipment. The rule was designed to help satellite teams attract sponsors with top GP rookies.
marco & hayden to suzuki? aspar takes over the reigns at hayate and welcomes Bautista into the motogp circus. canepa out, kallio into ducati factory. RdP to pramac duc with promise of factory support. AdA out, takahashi replaced by aoyama. simonchelli takes elias' "satellite" honda and CV goes to LCR. CEII stays at tech3 joined by spies....loris guests for suzook a few times to get 300 starts and kawa increase support to hayate/aspar...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ May 5 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The latest rumour I heard was regarding Total Oils, Tech 3, and Leon Haslam.
I heard that Total oils, formally known as Elf were looking to be a title sponser in MotoGP and are keen to sponsor Tech 3 due to the French connection being Tech 3 french team, and Elf french oil company.
Herve Poncharal can choose one rider, basically a open budget, but one of the two man team has to Leon Haslam as the French Oil firm arevery fond of the haslam family thanks to rocket Ron Haslam, and there delightfull past.
So Team would be known as Total Tech 3.
Make of that what you will.
Hate to be pedantic, but Total merged with Elf, they are both French companies. But you are right in that the name Elf is now redundant the company having been acquired/subsumed by Total.
Yeah, Elf had a rich history in motorsport sponsorship - in fact you'd know that Dion because I'm sure you used to have Jackie Stewart's Tyrrell as an av.
Leon back to GP, a Brit ride to keep Dorna happy, a shedload of sponsorship to boot....and being that I work for a subsidiary of Total (for now) possibility of free passes to Silverstone next year? It's all good!
I heard that Total oils, formally known as Elf were looking to be a title sponser in MotoGP and are keen to sponsor Tech 3 due to the French connection being Tech 3 french team, and Elf french oil company.
Herve Poncharal can choose one rider, basically a open budget, but one of the two man team has to Leon Haslam as the French Oil firm arevery fond of the haslam family thanks to rocket Ron Haslam, and there delightfull past.
So Team would be known as Total Tech 3.
Make of that what you will.
Hate to be pedantic, but Total merged with Elf, they are both French companies. But you are right in that the name Elf is now redundant the company having been acquired/subsumed by Total.
Yeah, Elf had a rich history in motorsport sponsorship - in fact you'd know that Dion because I'm sure you used to have Jackie Stewart's Tyrrell as an av.
Leon back to GP, a Brit ride to keep Dorna happy, a shedload of sponsorship to boot....and being that I work for a subsidiary of Total (for now) possibility of free passes to Silverstone next year? It's all good!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ May 5 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hate to be pedantic, but Total merged with Elf, they are both French companies. But you are right in that the name Elf is now redundant the company having been acquired/subsumed by Total.
Yeah, Elf had a rich history in motorsport sponsorship - in fact you'd know that Dion because I'm sure you used to have Jackie Stewart's Tyrrell as an av.
Leon back to GP, a Brit ride to keep Dorna happy, a shedload of sponsorship to boot....and being that I work for a subsidiary of Total (for now) possibility of free passes to Silverstone next year? It's all good!
remember the twin wishbone elf bike, rocket ron if my memory serves me right.
Yeah, Elf had a rich history in motorsport sponsorship - in fact you'd know that Dion because I'm sure you used to have Jackie Stewart's Tyrrell as an av.
Leon back to GP, a Brit ride to keep Dorna happy, a shedload of sponsorship to boot....and being that I work for a subsidiary of Total (for now) possibility of free passes to Silverstone next year? It's all good!
remember the twin wishbone elf bike, rocket ron if my memory serves me right.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 5 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>remember the twin wishbone elf bike, rocket ron if my memory serves me right.
Yeah I do, and like Dion say's, the French do as well, and seem to have quite a bit of time, and hopefully, money for the Haslam family.
Leon had no hope on the Shell oils NSR twin in 2001..but at least he inherited Walkers ride and got the V4 after Stalker proved to be too much of a liability on the thing. If I remember rightly, some Aussie school kid called Brendan Clarke was drafted in to complete the season on the bike vacated by Haslam. Anyway, It would be great to see an opportunity for him in the big class again after nine years. (It'll be great to see more of Ollie on T.V as well)
Yeah I do, and like Dion say's, the French do as well, and seem to have quite a bit of time, and hopefully, money for the Haslam family.
Leon had no hope on the Shell oils NSR twin in 2001..but at least he inherited Walkers ride and got the V4 after Stalker proved to be too much of a liability on the thing. If I remember rightly, some Aussie school kid called Brendan Clarke was drafted in to complete the season on the bike vacated by Haslam. Anyway, It would be great to see an opportunity for him in the big class again after nine years. (It'll be great to see more of Ollie on T.V as well)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 5 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>remember the twin wishbone elf bike, rocket ron if my memory serves me right.
O yeah. Ron stayed with that crew even though he new it was just a pure development environment. That's why they like him. It would be great to see Leon with that team in Motogp. It would give me someone to pull for. They could go with the same white helmet schema with some classes touches and a big red LH on the front.
I had the same hair and I had a friend who grew a big pair of mutton chops in his honor:
O yeah. Ron stayed with that crew even though he new it was just a pure development environment. That's why they like him. It would be great to see Leon with that team in Motogp. It would give me someone to pull for. They could go with the same white helmet schema with some classes touches and a big red LH on the front.
I had the same hair and I had a friend who grew a big pair of mutton chops in his honor:
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bojuhl @ May 5 2009, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>O yeah. Ron stayed with that crew even though he new it was just a pure development environment. That's why they like him. It would be great to see Leon with that team in Motogp. It would give me someone to pull for. They could go with the same white helmet schema with some classes touches and a big red LH on the front.
I had the same hair and I had a friend who grew a big pair of mutton chops in his honor:
arr man, where did you did thos pics up from
ron rode some true prototypes in his career with that and the jps norton
I had the same hair and I had a friend who grew a big pair of mutton chops in his honor:
arr man, where did you did thos pics up from
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 4 2009, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmmm...........interesting.
Jorge to Repsol seems likely since he would be attracted by the enormous payday. Whether or not Honda would allow it is another story, Lorenzo hasn't exactly set the world on fire. Plus, Lorenzo and Dovi on the same team!!!!!!!!!!!
I do think Pedrosa is going to Suzuki next year or possibly Kawasaki with Melandri. Bautista to Suzuki or Kawasaki.
Hayden is going to get the boot, Simoncelli is going to take his spot.
Spies will be on a Yam next season, as will Hopper. I think both will end up at Tech3 and Edwards will get promoted back to FIAT for 1 last hurrah b/c Rossi will demand it. Hopper will end up with Tech3 because he brings Monster with him. Spies will have a sponsor by 2010.
What will happen to Hayden is the interesting question. He may take an honorable job with a nice Japanese company to ride at Gresini with full factory support in place of Elias who is accomplishing nothing. Vermeulen will join him. They will be good teammates.
DeAngelis gets booted to WSBK. Elias goes back to Pramac to work with Kallio. Cannepa replaces Fabrizio
Toseland takes Spies' seat at Yamaha Italia.
Takahashi is forced to commit sepuku for wrecking the last Honda world champ. Aoyama takes his place.
This actually seems to be the most likely scenario and last chance saloon for Nicky,Hopper,CV and Tony Elias.
Jorge to Repsol seems likely since he would be attracted by the enormous payday. Whether or not Honda would allow it is another story, Lorenzo hasn't exactly set the world on fire. Plus, Lorenzo and Dovi on the same team!!!!!!!!!!!
I do think Pedrosa is going to Suzuki next year or possibly Kawasaki with Melandri. Bautista to Suzuki or Kawasaki.
Hayden is going to get the boot, Simoncelli is going to take his spot.
Spies will be on a Yam next season, as will Hopper. I think both will end up at Tech3 and Edwards will get promoted back to FIAT for 1 last hurrah b/c Rossi will demand it. Hopper will end up with Tech3 because he brings Monster with him. Spies will have a sponsor by 2010.
What will happen to Hayden is the interesting question. He may take an honorable job with a nice Japanese company to ride at Gresini with full factory support in place of Elias who is accomplishing nothing. Vermeulen will join him. They will be good teammates.
DeAngelis gets booted to WSBK. Elias goes back to Pramac to work with Kallio. Cannepa replaces Fabrizio
Toseland takes Spies' seat at Yamaha Italia.
Takahashi is forced to commit sepuku for wrecking the last Honda world champ. Aoyama takes his place.
This actually seems to be the most likely scenario and last chance saloon for Nicky,Hopper,CV and Tony Elias.
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If Haslem comes back to MotoGP I will seriously stop watching it.
Why is it that people forget about someones previous seasons as soon as they start doing good and vice versa. Haslem was so damn average in BSB and now because he's had a couple of good results in WSB it means he's qualified to move into MotoGP? What a joke!
At the moment no Brits deserve a ride in MotoGP with Toseland on his poor form and no consistant performers in Superbikes, so I think we'll have to wait until Smith and Redding move through the ranks until we see another Brit in MotoGP, well, unless someone wants to seriously embarrass themselves ala Byrne 2005.
Pedrosa WILL stay at Repsol for 2010, I guarentee it. He has been very impressive so far despite lack of 100% fitness and the RC212V still being somewhat of a dissapointment. Dovi will stay whether he performs or not as he's been way too loyal to Honda for them to let him go from their factory team after one year.
Fiat Yamaha will stay the same.
Marlboro Ducati will obviously keep Casey and they will be stupid not to let Hayden go. So I can see either one of the 250cc guys or Kallio/Gibernau stepping up to the jynxed second spot at Duke.
Suzuki will probably stay the same.
Gresini will sign one of the 250cc guys in place of De Angelis and keep Elias on.
LCR will stay the same if De Puniet keeps up this form and stays on the bike.
Scot Honda will have a Japanese rider next year but it won't be Takahashi unless he gets his act together, I can see Aoyama replacing him seeing as he's been lighting quick in the 250cc's so far this season.
Pramac Ducati will keep Kallio unless he moves up to Marlboro and probably sign a 250cc guy to replace Canapa unless he starts finishing higher than the last two positions.
Nieto Ducati will either keep Gibernau or sign another Spanish rider who will be one of the 250cc boys or maybe even Fonsi and make it an all Nieto affair within that team.
Why is it that people forget about someones previous seasons as soon as they start doing good and vice versa. Haslem was so damn average in BSB and now because he's had a couple of good results in WSB it means he's qualified to move into MotoGP? What a joke!
At the moment no Brits deserve a ride in MotoGP with Toseland on his poor form and no consistant performers in Superbikes, so I think we'll have to wait until Smith and Redding move through the ranks until we see another Brit in MotoGP, well, unless someone wants to seriously embarrass themselves ala Byrne 2005.
Pedrosa WILL stay at Repsol for 2010, I guarentee it. He has been very impressive so far despite lack of 100% fitness and the RC212V still being somewhat of a dissapointment. Dovi will stay whether he performs or not as he's been way too loyal to Honda for them to let him go from their factory team after one year.
Fiat Yamaha will stay the same.
Marlboro Ducati will obviously keep Casey and they will be stupid not to let Hayden go. So I can see either one of the 250cc guys or Kallio/Gibernau stepping up to the jynxed second spot at Duke.
Suzuki will probably stay the same.
Gresini will sign one of the 250cc guys in place of De Angelis and keep Elias on.
LCR will stay the same if De Puniet keeps up this form and stays on the bike.
Scot Honda will have a Japanese rider next year but it won't be Takahashi unless he gets his act together, I can see Aoyama replacing him seeing as he's been lighting quick in the 250cc's so far this season.
Pramac Ducati will keep Kallio unless he moves up to Marlboro and probably sign a 250cc guy to replace Canapa unless he starts finishing higher than the last two positions.
Nieto Ducati will either keep Gibernau or sign another Spanish rider who will be one of the 250cc boys or maybe even Fonsi and make it an all Nieto affair within that team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ May 4 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The rookie rule is not designed to keep rookies from riding factory equipment. The rule was designed to help satellite teams attract sponsors with top GP rookies.
Ah, I see now. That makes sense.
Ah, I see now. That makes sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ May 6 2009, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Scot Honda will have a Japanese rider next year but it won't be Takahashi unless he gets his act together, I can see Aoyama replacing him seeing as he's been lighting quick in the 250cc's so far this season.
What makes Aoyama any more deserving of a MotoGP seat then Takahashi, besides his passport? You talk about the hype surrounding Haslam (after 8 races), what about the hype around Aoyama at the moment (after only 3 races). Look up his record, hardly stellar either.
What makes Aoyama any more deserving of a MotoGP seat then Takahashi, besides his passport? You talk about the hype surrounding Haslam (after 8 races), what about the hype around Aoyama at the moment (after only 3 races). Look up his record, hardly stellar either.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ May 6 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marlboro Ducati will obviously keep Casey and they will be stupid not to let Hayden go. So I can see either one of the 250cc guys or Kallio/Gibernau stepping up to the jynxed second spot at Duke.
What makes you think Nick will stick around?
What makes you think Nick will stick around?
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I dont think Lorenzo would want to leave Yamaha because Rossi is on his way out(he'll be doing rally full time in a few years) nor Spies leave a WSBK factory seat for a satelite gp seat i think he would go to another factory Gp team before that. Who is going to have the balls to step up to that 2nd ducati 2 very talented riders have tried and have failed. Bautista would be a good replacement for pedrosa or even Barbera or Simoncelli depending on this years 250 results. Pedrosa would get hired by suzuki i wonder if theyll let him bring Puig along. Collin has a seat with Tech 3 but i dont know about JT. If Nicky does not pick it up i can see him over with marco on that 2nd Kawi that is being talked about hey it cant get any worse for him.
