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Oh the rossi nut clingers are out out in full force. You know what we call nut clingers around here?? Dingle Berries!!! Watch your boy rossi picks at you all every time he exits pit line. That what is slowing down. Too many of you hanging from is sack makes him slow.
 
RedRod
Pedrosa said it correct when you have the inside line you can go as wide as you like. The one thing when seen from the outside of the track is Marquez gets on the power and drives into rossis left leg I believe he pretty much head butted rossis knee and this obviously causes the rider on the inside to put there knee out as you don't want another bike laying on you while cornering.

Hi looking at your comment I am not sure if you are stupid , blind or a Rossis the ...... follower, I am sure we will find out after I respond to your uneducated comment.
He slowed down and kick his handle bar so he would crash that is the only reason he went wide, it had nothing to do with getting a better line because only a complete ...... (Rossis) would get on the marbles to get a better line out of a corner.
 
Ok, Marquez behaviour CAN'T be discussed. It's all I needed to know. But it's me who's the biased bopper.
 
no, you're just a romanian that can cook


marquez didn't do anything wrong. rossi could have stayed behind him and try to follow. marc was never gonna just let the .... slide after the presser....
 
What I saw:

1) MM letting Lorenzo pass him like if he was a lap behind and not even trying to chase him

2) MM dangerously battling VR like if he was missing the last point to win the championship

3) VR running wide but still leaving plenty of space to MM to complete the turn

4) MM head butting VR's knee

5) As a reaction VR's knee pushes back MM helmet

VR move was aggressive, as aggressive as MM's in the previous laps. MM went down as he was on the dirt, nothing to do with VR leg. His leg just hits the helmet.
Observations (what one sees) are not to be confused with Interpretation.

Go back to your list and try to describe what you SAW. Attempt to refrain including an interpretation of it. Then if you wish afterwards you can outline your interpretation. But if your going to say, this us what I SAW. Then at very least do what you say.
 
Ok, Marquez behaviour CAN'T be discussed. It's all I needed to know. But it's me who's the biased bopper.
Marc's "behavior"? You see what you've done there? Up until Rossi lost his mind and chose to assault Marc (that IS BEHAVIOR) Marc had been engaging Rossi in RACING , and visit versa. There is NO " behavior" to speak of in the same way there is no BEHAVIOR to speak of Pedrosa clearing out or Lorenzo overtaking riders. Your intention is clear in your inquiry. Quite clear indeed.
 
I am not sure what you mean Marquez was racing for position isn't that what he gets paid to do.:confused:
What is being suggested, a true absurdity, is that overtaking is now suspect BECAUSE ROSSI implanted this seed that racing HIM for positions is questionable BEHAVIOR.

Think about the implications and the tainted cloud of doubt that Rossi has facilitated for the naive and gullible fandom. Consider that Rossi has made a career of admirers in racing rivals in this exact way. This element of racing has now been deemed a PERVERSION! That is the power of Rossi Worship. Not dissimilar to actual RELIGION!
 
Just keep this in mind if Marquez did the same to Rossis he would have been black flagged with in 3 laps or strip of all his point for that round.
He has spent his career intimidating other riders on and off the track.
 
I did not expect lot of people to understand what I wrote especially not the ones who are puppets of worlds hypocrisy circus, and do not see beyond their nose in front of which are two actor coward hypocrats joined to needle the Gladiator, and hiding behind sweet words, nice speaches (like on miss of the world competition) and rulebook, have succeeded. And now when they got whipped they cry like ladies, and claim for protection. But no doubt, the hypocrates are excelent actors, and they hide their rotten tactic professionally like on press conference before Malaysian race. And to real Man they just make Rossi greater no matter the GP result and outcome, because a side that he is the best world track racer he is hypocrate whipper!
 
I did not expect lot of people to understand what I wrote especially not the ones who are puppets of worlds hypocrisy circus, and do not see beyond their nose in front of which are two actor coward hypocrats joined to needle the Gladiator, and hiding behind sweet words, nice speaches (like on miss of the world competition) and rulebook, have succeeded. And now when they got whipped they cry like ladies, and claim for protection. But no doubt, the hypocrates are excelent actors, and they hide their rotten tactic professionally like on press conference before Malaysian race. And to real Man they just make Rossi greater no matter the GP result and outcome, because a side that he is the best world track racer he is hypocrate whipper!

You are being serious?
 
What is being suggested, a true absurdity, is that overtaking is now suspect BECAUSE ROSSI implanted this seed that racing HIM for positions is questionable BEHAVIOR.

Think about the implications and the tainted cloud of doubt that Rossi has facilitated for the naive and gullible fandom. Consider that Rossi has made a career of admirers in racing rivals in this exact way. This element of racing has now been deemed a PERVERSION! That is the power of Rossi Worship. Not dissimilar to actual RELIGION!

This is a key point. If Rossi actually was serious pre-race, which events in the race suggest was so, he was criticising MM for doing exactly what he has made a career of doing, and the same people criticising MM for doing it (if he was, we only have supposition and Rossi's pre-race statements about the PI race as "evidence") have long acclaimed Rossi for the same behaviour.

I think MM has a greater sense of entitlement and is far more reckless in general, but can't see much problem with his riding in this race, certainly not in comparison with any number of races in Valentino's career including a rather hard pass he put on Jorge in 2010 when both Jorge was leading the championship, and he had no chance of winning the title himself.
 
Trying to knock someone off on purpose on two wheels can't be easy to achieve, as you cannot guarantee you won't go down either. I'm not condoning Rossi's actions, but Marquez did go down rather easily with not a lot of contact, compared to other entanglements we've seen over the years.

Rossi didn't do himself any favours with his Thursday press conference comments about Marquez and with that in mind, I believe Marquez did linger around Rossi to mess up his race, as he appeared to have front running pace all weekend to that point. Whilst this isn't against the rules, why would you not race to win, regardless of being in the title chase or not. We all know how fast Marquez is. That in itself is unsportsmanlike in my opinion, regardless of what happened on that corner today.
 
Marquez was very much racing (and not only racing, but racing a la Marquez, and not only racing a la Marquez, but racing 150% a la Marquez) for his position vs Rossi, or better yet, to make sure their two bikes/bodies distance would never be more than 10 centimetres. And did not apply the same treatment (being eufemistic, since he actually never even tried) to Jorge. So he deliberately chose which one of the two title contenders to favour.

Was it clear? So clear that if you deny it you're just as biased as a Rossi fanboy who would keep his face straight while trying to say that Rossi didn't kick Mm on purpose
Was it in his racing rights to favour Lorenzo? Yes. Which makes it even funnier that a lot of people in this forum don't admit it.
Why would he do that? Assen, of course.

There's race laws, and there's life/race ethics. Of course, in order to decide who the final champion must be, only the first ones have to matter. But as spectators or supporters bringing them both into the table, as opposed to only one of the two, is merely an exercise of realism.

What Valentino did was at the same time against the rules AND understandable IMO. He was about (maybe, who knows, he is still about) to make history, until a spanish little nuthead with an incredible career still in front of him decides to start play borderline games with him in the last two/three races. This still doesn't justify Rossi, which has strong probabilities of RIGHTFULLY (again: rightfully) losing the tenth cause of his kick move.
 
Trying to knock someone off on purpose on two wheels can't be easy to achieve, as you cannot guarantee you won't go down either. I'm not condoning Rossi's actions, but Marquez did go down rather easily with not a lot of contact, compared to other entanglements we've seen over the years.

Rossi didn't do himself any favours with his Thursday press conference comments about Marquez and with that in mind, I believe Marquez did linger around Rossi to mess up his race, as he appeared to have front running pace all weekend to that point. Whilst this isn't against the rules, why would you not race to win, regardless of being in the title chase or not. We all know how fast Marquez is. That in itself is unsportsmanlike in my opinion, regardless of what happened on that corner today.

MM was slower than Lorenzo in FP1, FP2 and FP3, and slower than Pedrosa in all sessions except FP3. Why is it remarkable that Pedrosa and Lorenzo were ahead of him?
 
Marquez was very much racing (and not only racing, but racing a la Marquez, and not only racing a la Marquez, but racing 150% a la Marquez) for his position vs Rossi, or better yet, to make sure their two bikes/bodies distance would never be more than 10 centimetres. And did not apply the same treatment (being eufemistic, since he actually never even tried) to Jorge. So he deliberately chose which one of the two title contenders to favour.

Was it clear? So clear that if you deny it you're just as biased as a Rossi fanboy who would keep his face straight while trying to say that Rossi didn't kick Mm on purpose
Was it in his racing rights to favour Lorenzo? Yes. Which makes it even funnier that a lot of people in this forum don't admit it.
Why would he do that? Assen, of course.

There's race laws, and there's life/race ethics. Of course, in order to decide who the final champion must be, only the first ones have to matter. But as spectators or supporters bringing them both into the table, as opposed to only one of the two, is merely an exercise of realism.

What Valentino did was at the same time against the rules AND understandable IMO. He was about (maybe, who knows, he is still about) to make history, until a spanish little nuthead with an incredible career still in front of him decides to start play borderline games with him in the last two/three races. This still doesn't justify Rossi, which has strong probabilities of RIGHTFULLY (again: rightfully) losing the tenth cause of his kick move.

It did occur to me as well that if MM was doing what Valentino says he was doing he would see it as doing the same thing to Valentino as was done to him at Assen, which he seemed to regard as legal cheating.

In every form of racing of which I am aware you have always been allowed to race for position however, and if he did nothing illegal as race direction has said was the case I don't see how his putative motives come into it. He could even argue he was following the common practice of protecting the lead of his race leading team-mate for that matter if he wished.
 
Let's be honest, up until the point where Marquez "made a mistake" which allowed Lorenzo through, he was running the same pace as Pedrosa. Suddenly once Lorenzo is through he starts lapping A LOT slower. Coincidence? I think not. He's mentioned that he doesn't want to get involved, and will only make overtakes if it is clear, yet he was scrapping with Rossi like his life depended on it, and some of his overtakes were extremely hard.
 
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