Rossi: I want to beat Stoner

Tom · Jun 24, 2011

gui22a said:
Anyway, I wanted to show that despite the new chassis the Ducati still suffers from understeer, although seems much less.

Understeer is something that will be a consequence of the relatively long engine Ducati use. I'm sure they will be able to work it out to an acceptable level with setup and such but compared to the inline 4 he has been on that will always be a characteristic

J4rn0 said:
Poor Lorenzo.... he must feel bad.

I'm sure he isn't enjoying the relatively tough season he's having this year, but he isn't an ...... It has taken Stoner 4 years to get into the position he probably feels has been his since 2007. The truth of the matter is for the riders in question that the journey doesn't end as soon as you win the title, there is much more to come.

michaelm · Jun 24, 2011

Bunyip said:
No, I am talking about the basic configuration being unchanged- the way the swingarm is attached to the motor , which acts as a stressed member. The current and 2007 configurations led to an unstable rear end, which subsequently affected the front end. I don,t believe that trellis to carbon fibre frame change made a whole lot of difference, nor the change to big bang , as far as handling went. The Hondas and Yamaha improved from 2007 onwards, while the Ducatis fundamental design fault limited improvements compared with the others. As this happened, Stoner had to push harder to compete and ended up crashing more as a result. As usual you are trying to rewrite history. If you watched races from 2007 until Rossi this year ,you would see that the common theme was a bucking bike. Stoner could make it work to a point. Rossi was totally defeated by it. I believe that this is the first time that the way the rear of tyhe bike is connected to the motor has been changed, and as a result, seems to have created a bike with far more predictable and tranquil handling.

I agree. The integrated chassis etc were largely devised to address problems caused by the basic "L4" engine configuration, related to something as basic as its physical dimensions, length in particular. Perhaps they will never produce a good handling bike whilst sticking with the L4 configuration.

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