Rossi: Electronic aids make bikes boring

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Oct 30 2008, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>However, Stoner was not winning with it though…


Does that even make sense to you??

The bikes are not nearly safe enough. Remove the veil and see the future of Moto GP

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Oct 30 2008, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, stoner left (the poor man's version of) the championship-winning bike from his rookie year and immediately dominated on the Ducati. Not that that's at all what you meant, but it does loosely fit within those bounds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Oct 30 2008, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll grant that little bit Matt!
However, Stoner was not winning with it though…

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 30 2008, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does that even make sense to you??

I meant Stoner was no winning with the Honda (even if it was a winning package for Hayden) when he, Stoner made the move to Ducati. This is a bit different from when Rossi moved to Yamaha leaving a winning package at the time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Oct 30 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I meant Stoner was no winning with the Honda (even if it was a winning package for Hayden) when he, Stoner made the move to Ducati. This is a bit different from when Rossi moved to Yamaha leaving a winning package at the time.


Well no .......The 990 Honda didn't have cruise control electronics like his Duc.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Nov 1 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well no .......The 990 Honda didn't have cruise control electronics like his Duc.
Or maybe, a bridgestone tyre!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Oct 31 2008, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or maybe, a bridgestone tyre!

No at that time Mich was still using rubber... not plastic.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Oct 31 2008, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No at that time Mich was still using rubber... not plastic.
Even in 2006 Michelin had a few problems :

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Oct 31 2008, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even in 2006 Michelin had a few problems :

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i know...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Oct 31 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I meant Stoner was no winning with the Honda (even if it was a winning package for Hayden) when he, Stoner made the move to Ducati. This is a bit different from when Rossi moved to Yamaha leaving a winning package at the time.



You're seriously comparing the Honda Stoner rode to the one Rossi (or Nicki) rode?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Oct 31 2008, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're seriously comparing the Honda Stoner rode to the one Rossi (or Nicki) rode?



No Andy, I am not comparing them Bikes at all (A factory against a not). In the Context of the whole thread, we were talking about ‘Who can do it without electronics’, and I stated that Rossi did it back in the last 500cc Championship with barely a bit of today’s electronics. Then it turned into the old ‘it’s the Bike not the Rider’ topic, so I stated that Rossi also got rid of this by leaving and changing a Winning Package for a crap one (that his team and he transformed). After this, Mat stated that Stoner’s move from Honda to Ducati “loosely fit within those bounds”. Therefore my claim that Stoner was not wining when he left Honda as Rossi was when he left Honda.