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Martin tops FP1

PosRiderNatTeamTime/DiffLapMax
1Jorge MartinSPAPramac Ducati (GP23)1'30.520s18/22334k
2Maverick ViñalesSPAAprilia Racing (RS-GP23)+0.238s18/20333k
3Pol EspargaroSPATech3 GASGAS (RC16)+0.492s18/18333k
4Aleix EspargaroSPAAprilia Racing (RS-GP23)+0.651s16/19333k
5Franco MorbidelliITAMonster Yamaha (YZR-M1)+0.750s18/22332k
6Augusto FernandezSPATech3 GASGAS (RC16)*+0.823s21/21330k
7Fabio Di GiannantonioITAGresini Ducati (GP22)+0.962s18/19330k
8Raul FernandezSPARNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)+0.962s20/20330k
9Alex MarquezSPAGresini Ducati (GP22)+0.966s6/19331k
10Francesco BagnaiaITADucati Lenovo (GP23)+0.987s19/21334k
11Takaaki NakagamiJPNLCR Honda (RC213V)+1.079s16/22328k
12Fabio QuartararoFRAMonster Yamaha (YZR-M1)+1.130s19/20332k
13Jack MillerAUSRed Bull KTM (RC16)+1.162s18/20332k
14Brad BinderRSARed Bull KTM (RC16)+1.235s17/21332k
15Luca MariniITAMooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)+1.269s19/22332k
16Marco BezzecchiITAMooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)+1.304s13/19332k
17Enea BastianiniITADucati Lenovo (GP23)+1.333s19/20332k
18Marc MarquezSPARepsol Honda (RC213V)+1.337s8/21332k
19Johann ZarcoFRAPramac Ducati (GP23)+1.393s7/20333k
20Joan MirSPARepsol Honda (RC213V)+1.477s21/21331k
21Miguel OliveiraPORRNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)+1.601s6/18333k
 
Martin topped FP2 also, but had a crash after setting his fast time. Bold go directly to Q2.

PosRiderNatTeamTime/DiffLapMax
1Jorge MartinSPAPramac Ducati (GP23)1'29.826s22/22335k
2Maverick ViñalesSPAAprilia Racing (RS-GP23)+0.098s21/25336k
3Aleix EspargaroSPAAprilia Racing (RS-GP23)+0.160s24/26336k
4Johann ZarcoFRAPramac Ducati (GP23)+0.180s20/22334k
5Luca MariniITAMooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)+0.199s26/27333k
6Marco BezzecchiITAMooney VR46 Ducati (GP22)+0.208s21/26335k
7Francesco BagnaiaITADucati Lenovo (GP23)+0.243s22/23334k
8Fabio QuartararoFRAMonster Yamaha (YZR-M1)+0.248s25/26333k
9Brad BinderRSARed Bull KTM (RC16)+0.295s18/23335k
10Augusto FernandezSPATech3 GASGAS (RC16)*+0.304s22/24333k
11Marc MarquezSPARepsol Honda (RC213V)+0.369s24/26335k
12Franco MorbidelliITAMonster Yamaha (YZR-M1)+0.391s19/24334k
13Jack MillerAUSRed Bull KTM (RC16)+0.398s23/27334k
14Fabio Di GiannantonioITAGresini Ducati (GP22)+0.436s24/26333k
15Pol EspargaroSPATech3 GASGAS (RC16)+0.442s20/21336k
16Joan MirSPARepsol Honda (RC213V)+0.469s21/23333k
17Raul FernandezSPARNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)+0.517s18/23332k
18Alex MarquezSPAGresini Ducati (GP22)+0.541s18/20332k
19Enea BastianiniITADucati Lenovo (GP23)+1.089s22/24334k
20Takaaki NakagamiJPNLCR Honda (RC213V)+1.164s17/27331k
21Miguel OliveiraPORRNF Aprilia (RS-GP22)+1.278s18/23334k
 
One of Martin's front fork wings came off and hit Marquez in the shoulder.

 
Anyway going back to business, the top 16, SIXTEEN, were separated by less than half a second. That's crazy.
 
I read Fabio said he is very happy about the alternative tire. Does anyone have any info on this tire? Does it have black fingernail polish and listen to Nirvana?
 
It has a harder carcass on the rear tire, the same specification used in Austria, India and Indonesia. Sounds like it hinders other teams more than it helps Yamaha. I expect a harder carcass makes it harder to get power down. Also worth noting that the last 2 GP's that Michelin have used this tyre, Fabio has finished on the podium.
 
#22 said:
It has a harder carcass on the rear tire, the same specification used in Austria, India and Indonesia. Sounds like it hinders other teams more than it helps Yamaha. I expect a harder carcass makes it harder to get power down. Also worth noting that the last 2 GP's that Michelin have used this tyre, Fabio has finished on the podium.
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Interesting. Isn't one of the issues with the yamaha is getting the power down? I thought he said the tire has been spinning like crazy while accelerating. I am just glad he has been happier. Lots of talk about honda's problems but it would be great to see yamaha get the bike sorted before they lose Fabs.
 
I'm under the same impression regarding getting power down, but if it hampers other teams more, it lessens the Yams weakness if that makes sense.

Silly season 2025 will be interesting with everyone except Binder out of contract.
 
Ban wings. Interesting times. Aprilia thriving in the hot weather again. Bagnaia off to another slow start. KTM meh.

Despite Martin's unforced errors, the championship fight is still center stage. Not sure if the factory Ducati squad have failed to adapt as fast as the other teams or if the tracks are requiring tires that don't suit the factory machine and setup window? I guess we'll find out what happens on Sat and Sunday.

Nice recovery by Fabio to get into Q2. A bit sad he's been overlooked in the game of musical chairs, but Yamaha probably can't afford to loan him to another team for a season.
 
Jorge with another pole, followed by Luca and Aleix. Pecco will be 6th on the grid, his qualifying form has taken a hit as of late but he really seems to be banking everything on the race nowadays, let's see if it pays off for another week. I expect Jorge to dominate the sprint.
 

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