Phillip Island Official Test Feb 21/22

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 21 2010, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>SS
Phillip Island Official Test - Supersport 1st Day Aggregate

Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:33


1 54 Sofuoglu K. (TUR) Honda CBR600RR 1'34.691
2 37 Fujiwara K. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'35.042
3 26 Lascorz J. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'35.385
4 51 Pirro M. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'35.536
5 99 Foret F. (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'35.608
6 50 Laverty E. (IRL) Honda CBR600RR 1'35.641
7 16 Charpentier S. (FRA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'35.735
8 25 Salom D. (ESP) Triumph Daytona 675 1'36.344
9 117 Praia M. (POR) Honda CBR600RR 1'36.445
10 7 Davies C. (GBR) Triumph Daytona 675 1'37.014
11 55 Roccoli M. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'37.288
12 40 DiSalvo J. (USA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'37.529
13 4 Rea G. (GBR) Honda CBR600RR 1'37.792
14 127 Harms R. (DEN) Honda CBR600RR 1'37.957
15 9 Dell'Omo D. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'38.221
16 5 Lundh A. (SWE) Honda CBR600RR 1'39.283
17 33 Cazzola P. (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'39.303
What's he doing back? I thought Charpentier had retired.

Keep an eye on the European Superstock Champion Gino Rea (no relation) this year. The boy's got it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 21 2010, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What's he doing back? I thought Charpentier had retired.

Keep an eye on the European Superstock Champion Gino Rea (no relation) this year. The boy's got it.
Whatever he has got,he needs to get more of it because he is close to 3 seconds off the pace

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Feb 21 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whatever he has got,he needs to get more of it because he is close to 3 seconds off the pace
While in SBK, Roger Lee, another proven talent - with far more experience, is over five seconds amiss. This was a bad move for him, and he deserves more. He'll likely struggle all year

All I said was keep an eye on him. He's sure to show some potential this year. Jason Di Salvo's no slouch and is also languishing down there on the timesheet; and Robin Harms, who is a regular front runner in this class, and also has GP experience was slower. The kid's never raced outside of Europe, and PI is a real riders circuit and a hard track to learn. Saying that, I'm not sure that Roger Lee's been here either other than as a spectator.

Yamaha look to be in a bit of trouble. I wonder if it's just PI or if Honda and Ducati have actually done a bit of work to close the gap.

Sykes is looking really good. I'm happy to see that he is replicating his form from his BSB days. He's first Kawasaki, and he's in a relatively competitive position, imo.

I wonder if Hayden is starting to question his decision. He's riding a satellite bike for the worst manufacturer at circuits he doesn't know. Plus, he's never been great on an SBK anyway. I know the AMA isn't a great prospect for anyone right now, let alone a rider of Hayden's caliber, but he has made a precarious career decision by joining Pedercini.

Anybody else going to this weekend?
I'll put up some pics each day.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 21 2010, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yamaha look to be in a bit of trouble. I wonder if it's just PI or if Honda and Ducati have actually done a bit of work to close the gap.

Sykes is looking really good. I'm happy to see that he is replicating his form from his BSB days. He's first Kawasaki, and he's in a relatively competitive position, imo.

I wonder if Hayden is starting to question his decision. He's riding a satellite bike for the worst manufacturer at circuits he doesn't know. Plus, he's never been great on an SBK anyway. I know the AMA isn't a great prospect for anyone right now, let alone a rider of Hayden's caliber, but he has made a precarious career decision by joining Pedercini.
I think Rogers problem is he has to race somewhere because he has never had the huge contract to set him up. Its either race or put on the tennis shoes and start selling used cars. Nick on the other hand should be set for life.

1. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 31.650s
2. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 1min 31.662s
3. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198 1min 32.195s
4. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 32.247s
5. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 32.279s
6. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198 1min 32.344s
7. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 32.474s
8. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.554s
9. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 32.621s
10. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.691s
11. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 32.781s
12. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 32.819s
13. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 32.869s
14. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 32.880s
15. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198 1min 32.892s
16. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 33.032s
17. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 33.446s
18. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 33.466s
19. Andrew Pitt AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 33.950s
20. Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 34.234s
21. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 35.663s
22. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 35.763s
23. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1min 36.088s
24. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR No Time

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 21 2010, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yamaha look to be in a bit of trouble. I wonder if it's just PI or if Honda and Ducati have actually done a bit of work to close the gap.

Sykes is looking really good. I'm happy to see that he is replicating his form from his BSB days. e's first Kawasaki, and he's in a relatively competitive position, imo.
There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 22 2010, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.

Beat me to it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 21 2010, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.
I said all along the Ducati was the best machine and Spies was the best rider, by a mile.

Final test times

Phillip Island Official Test - SBK Aggregate (Day 2)
Monday, 22 February 2010 07:53
1. Michel Fabrizio (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'31.650
2. Shane Byrne (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1'31.662
3. Jakub Smrz (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1'31.680
4. Carlos Checa (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1'31.959
5. Jonathan Rea (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'32.175
6. Noriyuki Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1'32.247
7. Leon Haslam (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'32.279
8. Max Biaggi (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'32.474
9. Leon Camier (GBR) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1'32.621
10. Max Neukirchner (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1'32.691
11. Ruben Xaus (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1'32.714
12. James Toseland (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'32.781
13. Troy Corser (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'32.819
14. Lorenzo Lanzi Ducati 1098R 1'32.830
15. Sylvain Guintoli (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'32.869
16. Chris Vermeulen (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'32.870
17. Cal Crutchlow (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'32.880
18. Tom Sykes (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'33.202
19. Andrew Pitt (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'33.699
20. Josh Brookes (AUS) Honda CBR1000RR 1'33.710
21. Roland Resch (AUT) BMW S1000 RR 1'33.943
22. Vitorrio Iannuzzo (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'34.945
23. Matteo Baiocco (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'35.663
24. Roger Hayden (USA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'35.763


Phillip Island Official Test - WSS 2nd Session (Day 2)
Monday, 22 February 2010 09:10
1. Joan Lascorz (ESP) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'34.577
2. Kenan Sofuoglu (TUR) Honda CBR600RR 1'34.790
3. Fabien Foret (FRA) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'35.268
4. Michele Pirro (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'35.411
5. Eugene Laverty (IRL) Honda CBR600RR 1'35.462
6. Katsuaki Fujiwara (JPN) Kawasaki ZX-6R 1'35.620
7. David Salom (ESP) Triumph Daytona 675 1'36.008
8. Miguel Praia (POR) Honda CBR600RR 1'36.039
9. Chaz Davies (GBR) Triumph Daytona 675 1'36.081
10. Massimo Roccoli (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'36.569
11. Robbin Harms (DEN) Honda CBR600RR 1'36.984
12. Sebastien Charpentier (FRA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'37.062
13. Gio Rea (GBR) Honda CBR600RR 1'37.116
14. Jason DiSalvo (USA) Triumph Daytona 675 1'37.490
15. Danilo Dell'Omo (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'38.128
16. Alexander Lundh (SWE) Honda CBR600RR 1'38.409
17. Paola Cazzola (ITA) Honda CBR600RR 1'39.68

Its weird looking at the WSS list and seeing no Yamaha or Suzuki. Suzuki hasnt been a player for a while but Yamaha certainly has,

i predict a short career for rl in wsbk...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 22 2010, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.
hmmmmm... ya think.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 21 2010, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.

For sure, but Toseland and Crutchlow were fast right out of the gate at the Portimao test. I know Ben is incredibly talented, but I think his masterful abilities are more about managing races and saving a little bit extra in reserve. For Spies to use that kind of racecraft, he needs a world class motorcycle (like his old Yosh Suzuki).

I don't think Spies has ever made a bad bike good, he's only unlocked the full potential of any race machine. He didn't set the world on fire with the GSRV.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Sykes never looked comfortable on the R1. He looks more comfortable on the Kawasaki.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 22 2010, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For sure, but Toseland and Crutchlow were fast right out of the gate at the Portimao test. I know Ben is incredibly talented, but I think his masterful abilities are more about managing races and saving a little bit extra in reserve. For Spies to use that kind of racecraft, he needs a world class motorcycle (like his old Yosh Suzuki).

I don't think Spies has ever made a bad bike good, he's only unlocked the full potential of any race machine. He didn't set the world on fire with the GSRV.

Maybe I'm wrong, but Sykes never looked comfortable on the R1. He looks more comfortable on the Kawasaki.

So basically your saying that the new 2010 model needs work. I was trying to rack my brain and think if Sykes ever complained about chatter. I don't think that he ever felt comfortable on the bike but I don't know if he ever went into detail on why. The Portimao test does throw a little kink in the plot though cause Toseland and Crutchlow were pretty fast there although conditions were much different. I think the difference is still Spies. I think that he was able to modify his riding style to suit the bike much like he is doing for the M1. Of course there is always the probability that they are sandbagging like Haga.

I hope that RLH can find something. He is looking pretty bad right now.

What are the odds that Ducati go 1,2,3 in both races? Pretty good I'm guessing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There is always the possibility that spies was good rather than the 2009 yamaha, and that sykes' showing on it was more reflective of real world performance.
Guy Martin has expressed exactly the same theory in this months 'Performance Bike' magazine in his assessment of this years field. "I don't think the Yamaha is as fast as Ben Spies made it look last year - I think Spies is exceptionally good"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Feb 22 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So basically your saying that the new 2010 model needs work.

Probably. Spies certainly got 10/10ths out of the 2009 bike and I would say that Crutchlow and Toseland got at least 9/10ths on their first ride. Since then they've gone backwards. Either the Yamaha is getting slower, or the other bikes are getting much faster.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Guy Martin has expressed exactly the same theory in this months 'Performance Bike' magazine in his assessment of this years field. "I don't think the Yamaha is as fast as Ben Spies made it look last year - I think Spies is exceptionally good"

Gotta go with that statement.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Otis Driftwood @ Feb 23 2010, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Gotta go with that statement.

It makes sense now that the 2010 bike is backmarking, but it doesn't make sense in light of Crutchlow's and Toseland's performance at Portimao on the 2009.

Imo, Ben had a very good bike that Sykes couldn't seem to ride. The 2010 R1 is having a few teething issues.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 22 2010, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i predict a short career for rl in wsbk...
hmmmmm... ya think.....