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Pedrosa to get Bridgestones next season

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Like I said before. The one tire rule is a done deal.....
Oh yeah this answers the Shinya/Factory bike thing.<a href="http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/2008/08/28/pedrosa_to_get_bridgestones_in_2009.html" target="_blank
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<H1 class=title>Pedrosa To Get Bridgestones In 2009</H1>Submitted by Kropotkin on Thu, 2008-08-28 00:08. in <ul><LI class="first taxonomy_term_11Dani Pedrosa []Honda[/list]After three disastrous races in a row of Michelin, news stories on riders complaining about the French company's tires are as common as discussions of the weather in England. So much so that another story about tires barely generates any interest at all.

Unless, of course, that rider in the story is Dani Pedrosa, and the person complaining about the tires is Masumi Hamane, president of HRC. Neil Spalding interviewed the HRC boss after the race at Brno for the Spanish weekly magazine Solo Moto, and in this interview, Hamane gave his biggest hint yet that the factory Honda team will switch to Bridgestone next year.

"As an engineer, I don't understand how Michelin can make so many mistakes three races in a row," Hamane told Spalding. "We're sure Michelin is working hard, but we've had problems at the Sachsenring, Laguna Seca and here (Brno - MGPM)" he continued.

Worse criticism was to come. "We want to find a way to solve this problem, but it looks like they don't think they've found the reason for the mistakes, what's more, they certainly haven't been able to convince us," Hamane told Spalding. When asked if they would support a switch to Bridgestones for the factory team, Hamane was curt: "Yes".

If the Repsol Honda team were to switch to Bridgestones, that could mark the end of Michelin's involvement in MotoGP. The French company has always said that they will stay in the class for as long as they have a factory team they can support, a factory bike being necessary so that Michelin can have a say in bike development, exploiting the best characteristics of the bike to get the best from their tires. If Repsol goes, then only Jorge Lorenzo would be left on Michelins, and you have to believe Lorenzo, and at least his manager Dani Amatriain would be screaming for Bridgestones to be able to compete with Rossi, Stoner and Pedrosa.

And should Michelin decide to withdraw, that could have a very unpleasant effect on the grid. The Tech 3 team is currently funded in large part by Michelin - witness the striking coincidence between the teams colors and those of the tire maker - and if Michelin left MotoGP, Tech 3's budget would go with them, leaving James Toseland and Colin Edwards out of a job. But even worse for MotoGP, it could leave the grid looking decidedly empty, with just 16 bikes lining up on any Sunday.

At Brno, the riders demanded that Dorna and the FIM impose a single tire rule. They may not need either of those bodies to get one, and it may happen sooner than they had hoped.
 
Poor Honda...
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They made the wrong choice again last year, sticking with Michelin.
They hit all the wrong choices, very consistently, since the summer of 2003 when they gave up Rossi. Then they bet on Pedro, and keep betting on him.
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As a collateral damage they've lost Hayden--another mistake.
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Let us see if they manage to miss Dovi as well...!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Aug 28 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Poor Honda...
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They made the wrong choice again last year, sticking with Michelin.
They hit all the wrong choices, very consistently, since the summer of 2003 when they gave up Rossi. Then they bet on Pedro, and keep betting on him.
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As a collateral damage they've lost Hayden--another mistake.
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He he, you are so right, and heads has fallen and more will fall unless they turn this around soon.
Poor Honda
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Just thought of something..whos gonna dev that set up?? The work horse Nick is gone. everyone knows Pedro don't like testing...and without Nick there to do it...Pedros 20 lap runs then leave at noon work ethic isn't gonna cut it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 28 2008, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just thought of something..whos gonna dev that set up?? The work horse Nick is gone. everyone knows Pedro don't like testing...and without Nick there to do it...Pedros 20 lap runs then leave at noon work ethic isn't gonna cut it.
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This year development goes to Shinya, he's riding around on it. As I said somewhere else, Japanese are loyal to the company. He'll take it is far as he can and poor Dani may have to do the work of a peasant between seasons and test the bike a little...

I guess if Nicki isn't there to ..... about he'll just have to slag off about Shinya not doing his dirty work for him
 
Oh yeah this answers the Shinya/Factory bike thing.


This would explain some of why he got the new scoot, looks like HRC has already started their Bridgestone R&D.
 
Fiat Yamaha was right to switch to Stone.
Michelin can supply tire to 250 class.
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and privateer teams..
 
assuming this tyre deal does go through and repsol is on stones next year, what are danis' chances to win the title in 2009?

and if he doesnt get it done, will HRC fire his ...?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He he, you are so right, and heads has fallen and more will fall unless they turn this around soon.
Poor Honda
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Rossi's contract isn't up for renewal until 2010.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Aug 28 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fiat Yamaha was right to switch to Stone.
Michelin can supply tire to 250 class.
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and privateer teams..

AFAIK 250cc has a defacto sigle tire suplier allready; Dunlop.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Aug 28 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This year development goes to Shinya, he's riding around on it. As I said somewhere else, Japanese are loyal to the company. He'll take it is far as he can and poor Dani may have to do the work of a peasant between seasons and test the bike a little...

I guess if Nicki isn't there to ..... about he'll just have to slag off about Shinya not doing his dirty work for him

I'd say there is a good chance Shinya will leave the MotoGP grid next year to become the HRC full time test rider.

The most telling part of the article however is in regards to Tech 3. They may be hung out to dry if a large part of their budget is axed due to Michelin buggering off. We want more bikes on the grid, not less. It's unfortunate for all the Michelin riders this year that started out so well and have now been relegated to back marker duty. Big changes to come in MotoGP.
 
As if this wasn't the plan all along.
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Michelin have been bringing two sets of tires to the last 3 rounds--too hard & too soft. Are we really supposed to believe they are now incapable of anything in between?

Ugh. So obvious.

Michelin were given a 40% budget increase from DORNA. That money was a payoff to hang around 1 season and an incentive to supply Tech3. Now they are pulling out--pockets full--b/c the fans were completely incapable of accepting that the governing body more or less through them out with new rules.

Pathetic.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Aug 28 2008, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Noyes says on the bottom of page 3 that the last 4 races of 2006 were won by Bridgestone riders.

Ummmmm...............correct me if I'm wrong, but Fortuna were running Michelin in 2006, right?

Good catch,i think Melandri was on Michelin's
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Aug 28 2008, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Great!...finally we're gonna have more competitive season next year.
YAWN..... You think so but it won't be. The tires are made for the bikes not just to be made one way and here you go guys. The dev is for specific parameters of each bike. You may see some bikes still out front the same as you do. The money spent on dev isn't going to be any more to support the multitudes of information gathered by the teams wanting specific changes that they require to be competative. Ducati will have precidence, and I would bet Vale will be right up there with high concern. Everyone else will get what they get.
 
This is very bad news for Michelin and the Tech 3 team who are paying quite good salaries to two superbike champs/ wannabe motogp riders.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Aug 28 2008, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Noyes says on the bottom of page 3 that the last 4 races of 2006 were won by Bridgestone riders.

Ummmmm...............correct me if I'm wrong, but Fortuna were running Michelin in 2006, right?

This part of the story taken from the link curve posted.... From Speedtv.com

According to some reports from Brno, Carmelo Ezpeleta was told by the majority of riders at a closed 'safety' meeting that they approved on a single tire system for 2009, but several Bridgestone riders have denied this, among them Casey Stoner and Chris Vermeulen.

Rossi, however, in spite of enjoying the advantage of being a Bridgestone rider, said that he believed it was time to go to a single tire system. Rossi also favors controlling ECU's and either eliminating or neutralizing traction control.

mylexicon.... maybe now you should get off Rossi's back. He's not as conniving and manipulative as you make him out to be.
 

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