Pedrosa on Kawasaki next year?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 24 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]86721[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
...but after all, the team is based out of Spain, with a Spanish title sponsor, oh and their heir apparent is Spanish, not to forget that the man behind the string is Alberto Puig, uhm, also Spanish. Where do you think their loyalties lie? Please man, this is the reality of the world. It's not the purse that makes the difference, its who's hands that purse is in.

I take on board the comments from you guys (Racejumkie, mylexicon, L8Braker) regarding possible bias in Honda, and the consensus seems to be Honda's attitude is "here's a bike, you damn well ride it fast, as it is engineering perfection". This I can buy more than the favour Dani, screw Hayden point of view. The day Honda allow a sponsor to dictate the engineering direction of the team they are truly asking for trouble. I can't believe they would stake their reputation as a manufacturer of bikes to please Repsol/Puig/Spain. MotoGP is about selling more road bikes by winning. It's also about pleasing the sponsors who contribute to pay the bills, this is true. The former is the reason teams compete. The latter is a way to make the competition economically viable. If you ran Honda, would you let Repsol tell you how to develop your bike, or to favour one rider over another? I wouldn't.

it's a dangerous game to play with HRC.

Honda will do what they jolly well want and screw Dani if need be

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<div class='quotemain'>Dani Pedrosa: so much angst, so little time



Is there any possibility this rumor is actually true?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MotoRob @ Aug 28 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]87317[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I take on board the comments from you guys (Racejumkie, mylexicon, L8Braker) regarding possible bias in Honda, and the consensus seems to be Honda's attitude is "here's a bike, you damn well ride it fast, as it is engineering perfection". This I can buy more than the favour Dani, screw Hayden point of view. The day Honda allow a sponsor to dictate the engineering direction of the team they are truly asking for trouble. I can't believe they would stake their reputation as a manufacturer of bikes to please Repsol/Puig/Spain. MotoGP is about selling more road bikes by winning. It's also about pleasing the sponsors who contribute to pay the bills, this is true. The former is the reason teams compete. The latter is a way to make the competition economically viable. If you ran Honda, would you let Repsol tell you how to develop your bike, or to favour one rider over another? I wouldn't.


I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think Honda are trying to screw Nicky. I think they are intentionally inconsiderate and expect him to be a motogp mule (like Edwards).

You're right, Honda does say "here is a bike. ride it fast, it's engineering perfection." That's why they don't give Hayden the time of day. Hayden requires more adjustments, new parts, special parts, and time to develop Honda's "Wonder Bike" than anyone. I think they make him the development rider, just so they don't have to pay to develop 2 machines And from Honda's perspective they probably think Hayden is terrible bike developer b/c when they add a "perfect" new part to his bike, he drops 3-4 positions.

WHEN IS THE MADNESS GOING TO END. Honda need to make Hayden #1 rider on paper, or give him the pink slip so he can ride a real motorcycle built for a real person.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MotoRob @ Aug 28 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]87317[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I take on board the comments from you guys (Racejumkie, mylexicon, L8Braker) regarding possible bias in Honda, and the consensus seems to be Honda's attitude is "here's a bike, you damn well ride it fast, as it is engineering perfection". This I can buy more than the favour Dani, screw Hayden point of view. The day Honda allow a sponsor to dictate the engineering direction of the team they are truly asking for trouble. I can't believe they would stake their reputation as a manufacturer of bikes to please Repsol/Puig/Spain. MotoGP is about selling more road bikes by winning. It's also about pleasing the sponsors who contribute to pay the bills, this is true. The former is the reason teams compete. The latter is a way to make the competition economically viable. If you ran Honda, would you let Repsol tell you how to develop your bike, or to favour one rider over another? I wouldn't.

Hahaha. I take it you meant to be funny. As you may have noticed I mentioned the "reality" of life. You are speaking "idealism". But as you may (or not based on your post) that the world is much different. Sure, if you are going to "idealize" Honda as an entity, as you have done, then yes, they are going to be the perfect company. But remember, the human being is passionate. Even NASA has made errors due to "group think." Do you have a job or go to school? Ask yourself, does the boss or director have the company/business, school/education best interest in mind? Then why don't they always make the right decision? Because they are human? This is life. People make decisions based on many factors.

Many members here equate Honda the company with Honda the racing department. They are totally different and not necessarily in lock step with the day-to-day operations. Honda is enormous. Only the foolish think that Honda the company is only interested in MotoGP racing. Please. The Honda effort is a minuscule part of the company, and in the hands of a few passionate racing enthusiasts. Who I believe have put all their eggs in the Pedrosa basket. Fine, you disagree. But as most, never back it up with any evidence. Yet I have posted several quotes from: Repsol, Honda team boss, and Honda racing engineers, all of which decidedly hold Pedrosa to be the reason for their efforts. Not to mention, as I think is common knowledge, who Puig is rooting for. Please do your homework. Where do you think this idea of Honda racing and Repsol catering to Pedrosa comes from, from thin air? Of course not, but the refuting of this fact, sure does.


As yourself this question. Why does MotoGP have three rounds in Spain? If Dorna had the best interest of this global sport, wouldn't they want to expand it to all the continents say, South America or Africa? Uhm, I'm thinking its because the sport is dominated by politics. Yes, the world is not ideal, is it?

Doesn't matter now if Westy has the ride! The hobbit can stay at honda and whinge all winter long! Hahahahahahah! Life doesn't seem to be so easy now does it Dani?

I hope Westy gets the Kawa ride and the Pedrosa/Puig duo have no where to go, Honda will make their lives miserable if they put pen to paper and renew thier contract, they will find out what it's like to be on equal footing or second tier status.
I'm going to throw this out there as well, I've never stated I didn't like Pedrosa, the boy has skill, but the devil whispering into his ear IMO is only going to hurt his career. Dani, dump the baggage mate and get on with your racing career. I know, a bit harsh to dump the one who's gotten you there, but sometimes it's neccessary if your career is to advance.