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neptune
Joined Apr 2008
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Out of Nowhere
The point is that you have a genuine interest and passion about it which comes across and you can't fake. And, since you don't have an ounce of pretence about you or try to blag it, it's actually very refreshing given the 'experts' that have overrun this forum over the last month.
Anyway, you'll learn so much when you get your own mount.
Joined Aug 2013
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USA
this would add weight to the rear of the bike, though the new tires are said to have more grip in the rear tire... I would think that they would do just the opposite, add weight to the tire with less grip. Over the corse of the race there would be less weight in the rear as more fuel is used.
Joined Apr 2015
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neptune
I guess that makes some sense. I just never rode a bike, so I would think the fuel sloshing around would be weird. But like I said I don't ride.
I was wondering if it would make the rear feel different. Also, what would the space where the gas tank usually be use for then? Seems like it would be unused space?
Just curious.
I was wondering if it would make the rear feel different. Also, what would the space where the gas tank usually be use for then? Seems like it would be unused space?
Just curious.
Joined Oct 2012
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Crab Key
The unused space is used for the Airbox. The bigger the better.
The fuel tanks will be baffled, in fact so confused that the fuel won't slosh too much.
The aim of these tanks is to put the fuel as close to the bike/rider CoG as possible, so as the fuel is used, the CoG of the bike is minimally affected.
Edit: Lowegian beat me to it.
Joined Apr 2015
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neptune
Yep, makes it much more agile: easier to change direction, which is quite handy I'm told. The torque required to rotate it is reduced but also the tendency to kind of seesaw back and forth is eliminated (or reduced anyway) so you can imaging the feel would be improved as well. Makes it more stable when braking aggressively - the tendency for the back end to pendulum back and forth would be reduced - and also more stable when you get on the gas: less wallow if the back steps out.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
The engineers are trying to distribute the weight to effect a desired balance. Given the new electronics and tires, perhaps the engineers are trying to exploit or mitigate some effect. Often the conventional seating of the fuel 'cell' isn't even where we might intuitively think, as the 'gas tank' often is just a compartment where they house a bunch of other .... (airbox, wires, sensors, etc). The actual fuel often is well below the 'tank' (to keep center of gravity low, I'm told). Frankly I don't know either why they'd want fuel to be carried over the rear, since the consumption of fuel would dramatically effect the handling over time, one would think. But then again that's why I had to take algebra in college 3 times. Anyway Sparrows, very few of us know any more than you. Really.
Edit: well at least with few exceptions, we do after all have dentist / architects who crew chief on spare time. (Or is it crew chiefs who practice dentistry / architecture?) Anyway, I'm off to do a bit of Internet psychological analysis. [Gets on scooter] Hey, Dr. Medes, hold up....
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Joined Oct 2015
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Los Angeles
The great thing about all the major changes (Fuel amount, tires, ECU) is that is forcing teams to make a lot of changes.
This is going to make season very, very, interesting. I cant wait for testing to start again. Heck, this will be the most exciting testes I think we will ever see. Is it next season yet?
This is going to make season very, very, interesting. I cant wait for testing to start again. Heck, this will be the most exciting testes I think we will ever see. Is it next season yet?
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Testes also make Willski excited.
Speaking of testes, and other sacks that hold fluids, Sparrow, oftentimes the fuel cap leads to a conduit to the tank. And sometimes to a secret fuel sack to be used when the occasion calls, particularly the 2007 Ducati, right J4rn0?
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Man, those fuel tanks look HUGE! Any idea how many gallons they hold? The current regulation is 22 liters (5.82 gal), so doubt they're much larger than that. But they look like 7. Maybe the fuel pump(s) eat a lot of space. But some very interesting shapes. And no freaking plastic there
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.All the new Yamaha dirtbikes have tanks under the seats now too, I wonder if Yami had tried that whole "reversed engine" Idea out in their GP bikes at all, since this concept seems to be inspired by the dirtbike as well.
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Your Mom's House
I wonder if Rossi will like the new tank. It should feature nicely when we are subjected to the manditory pick-my-... camera shot. :middle finger:
