Neil Hogsons No to MotoGP

Louis D'Antin is a ....

Been there done that - good choice I rekon

i would ride a season for no pay for them, but im not an ex world champion.

That just shoes how much of a ...... Niel is. I refuse to believe he is poor or struggling. And money would soon find its way to him if he had any success. Fairplay to Hoffman for keeping it about the riding and not the money.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 19 2007, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fairplay to Hoffman for keeping it about the riding and not the money.

you're not buying that 'for the love of the sport' ........ are you ?

this riding for no pay look's like it could become a scary trend that would not be good for our sport.
alls all very noble to do it for the love of the sport but we all work for a wage,and if your not likely to get payed for racing it may turn off young up and comming stars.

I'd give my life savings to race a season in MGP.. it ain't much but that's all I got... heheh

Well it would have been an excellent career move if he had done it. Unless of course he has realized he isn't good enough for motogp (like most superbike riders), and decided he'd be made to look a fool.

How can this be, I mean if Dorna was bought for $500 millions or whatever and TV audiences are sky high? Something is not in place here!


PD. I would do it "for the love of the sport" too, even if I get laugh at!

It doesn't add up really does it. With so much money involved you know that somebody takes how a very large profit from all of this while one of the riders gets nothing.

hmmmmm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 20 2007, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It doesn't add up really does it. With so much money involved you know that somebody takes how a very large profit from all of this while one of the riders gets nothing.

Steve Hislop rode the Boost Yamaha for nothing, while Mackenzie was being paid handsomely. I think it goes on more than we know.

And speaking of Mackenzie, it was widely rumoured that when he lost the Suzuki 500 (after getting 4th in the championship) that he was replaced by Didier De Radigues becaus of the money he would bring to the team.

I think it goes back to the smaller (non HRC teams) can only really push one rider, so the other guy has to bring something to the table. (sponsorship, whatever)

It's the same in the music bizz, up and coming bands have to "buy on" to get major supports with big name bands. The same thing again, you can pay a shed load of money, and play to a half empty hall because so many folk dont turn up until the headliners come on.

It's all about money at the end of the day. And sadly, if you wanna get to the top level at sport, music whatever, you gotta pay your dues.....


Pete

Its a shame but i guess its just the way it works. I guess the truly great riders shine through anyway even if they can't bring money to the team or have to ride for free.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 20 2007, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Steve Hislop rode the Boost Yamaha for nothing, while Mackenzie was being paid handsomely. I think it goes on more than we know.

And speaking of Mackenzie, it was widely rumoured that when he lost the Suzuki 500 (after getting 4th in the championship) that he was replaced by Didier De Radigues becaus of the money he would bring to the team.

I think it goes back to the smaller (non HRC teams) can only really push one rider, so the other guy has to bring something to the table. (sponsorship, whatever)

It's the same in the music bizz, up and coming bands have to "buy on" to get major supports with big name bands. The same thing again, you can pay a shed load of money, and play to a half empty hall because so many folk dont turn up until the headliners come on.

It's all about money at the end of the day. And sadly, if you wanna get to the top level at sport, music whatever, you gotta pay your dues.....
Pete

It may be, but with sky high TV audiences... I mean F1 pays better and I think more people are starting to watch MotoGP or evening up!

It is sad that sometimes guys get paid nothing for racing when Dorna are raking in the squillions but that's the way it is. If Dion's story is fact, then Hodgson is one of two things. Full of crap or stupid. Full of crap cos he's sore he didn't get offered the ride, or stupid for not taking it. Riders racing for no pay isn't anything new. McWilliams did it in 250's, the same year he won a race. Checa did it at Yamaha. I know guys who've spent every penny they ever had racing. Plenty of guys ride for little or no wages in Sattelite GP teams, not to mention 125 and 250, and for the guys who make something of it, it usually turns out to be a good carrer move. Eugene Laverty had his pick of contracts for '07 but snubbed them all purely on the outside chance he'd get the LCR 250 Honda ride, and he got it. You have to want it so bad in GP's that you'd ride for nothing, Hodgson clearly doesn't. Doesn't surprise me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (baldylocks @ Feb 19 2007, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Louis D'Antin is a twatI'm not so sure baldy


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 19 2007, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That just shoes how much of a ...... Niel is. I refuse to believe he is poor or struggling. And money would soon find its way to him if he had any success. Fairplay to Hoffman for keeping it about the riding and not the money.What he said!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Feb 20 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have to want it so bad in GP's that you'd ride for nothing, Hodgson clearly doesn't.

I agree

Checa raced last year without getting paid (only personal sponsors) it was a risky plan but it worked, he did a good job and now he has a Honda and a payed job.

Teams like D'Antín, Tech3 or Roberts don't have that much money to spend on riders! they just give them the oportunity to show themselves in hope of a better ride in the future.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 20 2007, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree


It's sad really, he was riding a 125 in GP 14 odd years ago, a crap bike, for little or no money, by sticking it out then he got his chance on 500s. I think now he probably feels he's done his time and doesnt need to ride for nothing. In MotGP, the guy is a no mark, great superbike rider, but seriously,who's going to pay big bucks for an older guy with no proven track record on a GP bike? There are young guys coming through on 250s who want it so bad it hurts, and guys like crashy and vermullin have a load of time on thier side to learn to ride a GP bike. Hodge doesn't have that now.

Probably realistically a good time for him to think that BSB wouldnt be a bad idea. I don't think he would be at the front with the Troys and Max on the world supers. And if he came back to the UK, theres a big score to be settled with Walker, who would be gunning for him big time.


Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 20 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And if he came back to the UK, theres a big score to be settled with Walker, who would be gunning for him big time.
I think Walker has the score to settle with Hodgson, Pete

I'd love to see those two at it again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 20 2007, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think now he probably feels he's done his time and doesnt need to ride for nothing.
I agree wih you on this one Pete. (Assuming this hearsay is true) I mean, its a bit disrespect even to ask a former champ to ride for ..... and giggles. Do the development riders get paid more than the 1 dollar contract guys in Japan? I had thought, why not, hell, perhaps better to be riding on a bike than sitting at home, but really, to take away your leathers and helmet sponsorship is a bit much. I realize to run a team costs a grip of money but c'mon, can we give the guy alittle compensation?

I'm not gonna give up on Neil, I think he still has a few years left in him for WSBK if somebody picks him up next year. Heck, somebody may pick him up this year if somebody gets hurt in WSBK.