You forgot the fork mounted oil launcher ............................. oh wait, that was inbuilt to the HRC forks on Pedrosa's bike in 2015 so nothing original I guess
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You forgot the fork mounted oil launcher ............................. oh wait, that was inbuilt to the HRC forks on Pedrosa's bike in 2015 so nothing original I guess
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I was surprised to see Rossi actually make an appearance.
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Change the record, your boy lost. Learn to accept it like a man.
It says in the report that the de-facto 2016 bikes are on their way to Malaysia for the first test, and that the 'launch bikes' were 2015 models.
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Proud Italian. Yamaha MotoGP's base is here in genova. I'm sorry you all are so delusional and angry at Rossi :spin:
Hopefully they found the same balance as 2015 on 2016 specs
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So Rossi is Italian, and you are Italian, therefore he must be in the right? Hardly a compelling argument even by your standards.
Speaking of delusions, how exactly can you deny the absolute "facts" that the only rider in the late 2015 premier class season who took another rider out of a race and was penalised by Race Direction for the illegal/non-racing move which resulted in this was VR, and that the slandering of other riders was by Valentino and supporters of his such as you rather than the reverse?
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lmao what the hell did you write? Do you have a brain?
Never said I'm right because I'm italian. Never said Rossi is right because he is italian. Never denied Rossi made a bad move pushing Marquez wide at Sepang.
My English sentences are quite short and easy to understand. At least, I thought they were so.
Somebody pointed out my location. "What do you expect from an italian? " Nice message. Half of the people involved in MotoGp are italians (engineers, team managers,etc) , sorry to disappoint you. The two best motorbike riders of all time are italian. Like it or not.
P.S. MotoGP fans should be cheering for riders and bikes. Not talk .... about the others just because one rider is eating you up inside. You keep telling yourself you are the real fans and the "yellow puppet's retirement" will bring with him all the idiotic fans..Who will be left? "Fans" like you? Don't make me laugh. Enjoy life and this beautiful sport, cut the crap
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Valentino is certainly in the conversation, not Agostini imo; I am old but could still only follow him from afar rather than seeing him race, but from what I have read/heard Hailwood was better in all likelihood.
If you are going to award the 2015 championship to Valentino I could fairly easily award Mick Doohan 7 titles as well, or at least 6, he was far more dominant prior to his injury in 1992 than Valentino was in 2015 and lost by a similar margin despite missing several races and racing the last two on one leg, but if he wanted to win the championship that year he should have not crashed, just as Rossi should have been faster late season in 2015 if he wanted to win.
You can be a proud Italian all you like, but you still fail to address the "facts" which remain that Valentino is the guy who took out MM rather than the reverse, and that it is he and guys like you who have slandered MM and Lorenzo rather than the reverse.
I have taken no issue with your English, which is obviously far better than my Italian, it is with what you continue to contend that I disagree, and I won't give you a free pass on that for having a language other than English as your first language.
PS I have followed the "beautiful sport" from before Valentino, let alone you in all likelihood, were born. Again you seem to have a basic problem with comprehension, it is you who is slandering MM and devaluing Lorenzo's 2015 title, I have absolutely no problem with acknowledging the titles Valentino actually did win.
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slandering MM and devaluing Lorenzo's 2015 title?
How? never said Lorenzo didn't deserve it. Don't really care about MM. I only say I'm not buying MM lies. This is MY opinion. Don't really care about MM as a rider, I'm not cheering for him neither insulting him.
Also, I watched many, many races of the past. Not my fault if I was born in the 90s. The only one who is being slandered on this forum is VR. But enjoy these little things. All I see is that if you are either italian or a Rossi fan you get mocked here. If you talk .... about Rossi you are praised. GG.
I won't reply anymore, there is not much else to say really
P.S. Has any of you read what Phil Read and Wayne Gardner think about last years events? No? You would be surprised. And the first one is a british legend, the other an australian legend.
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That "you are not buying MM lies" is the whole point of my objection, which you don't seem to grasp. You and Valentino are making the accusations/calling him a liar, the onus of proof is on you, and such proof rather obviously doesn't exist. My recent posts are in response to you claiming that Lorenzo needed an extra seat for MM on his new bike, which was a "joke" apparently despite it being quite in keeping with everything else you have posted in regard to the late season events of 2015, and you having demonstrated absolutely no sense of humour in regard to the aforementioned Valentino, although "that's different" I guess.
if you don't have anything to say not saying anything is probably not a bad idea.
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Firstly, show proof that 'Half' the people involved with MotoGP are Italian. Come on, find out how many people who work in or for MotoGP, the teams and manufacturers, then find out how many of them are Italian. I'd be staggered if the number was 50% which is what you claim (claim being the important word).
Secondly, many would argue that Mike Hailwood was the gratest rider of all time, and he's British.
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Biggest two in numbers..or numbers only count when it's useful to you?
Don't you watch behind the scenes, or just paddock coverages?
There is not really a database of people who work in MotoGP I can access right now, but I searched individual teams:
-Ducati (probably 90% of the team if not more) both Factory and client. I won't bother posting all the names.
Honda LCR:
-Lucio Cecchinello Honda
-Elena Cecchinello Honda
-Errico Gasperoni honda
-Emanuele Vallorani Honda
-Elisa Pavan Honda
-Cristian Gabarrini Honda(you might remember him..He worked with Casey Stoner and MM)
-Riccardo Sancassani honda
-Filippo Brunetti honda
-Ugo Gelmi honda
-Michele Andreini honda
-Elena Cecchinello Honda
-Roberto Canazza Honda
Factory Yamaha M1:
-Massimo Meregalli (team director)
-Walter Crippa
-Matteo flamigni
-Davide Marelli
-Valentino Negri
Its base is in Italy.
-Suzuki:
A lot of people now working for Suzuki are from the Ducati world. I saw a paddock coverage last year, with Paolo Ciabatti (Ducati) talking to an old friend dressing in Suzuki colors. They admitted most of the people that now are in Suzuki were working in Ducati, and they were happy Suzuki was doing well.
I'm not done. This is only about top class. Happy enough?
Guess where the peoplewho manage motorhomes, rider's suits etc are from? Yup.
Don't you watch behind the scenes, or just paddock coverages?
There is not really a database of people who work in MotoGP I can access right now, but I searched individual teams:
-Ducati (probably 90% of the team if not more) both Factory and client. I won't bother posting all the names.
Honda LCR:
-Lucio Cecchinello Honda
-Elena Cecchinello Honda
-Errico Gasperoni honda
-Emanuele Vallorani Honda
-Elisa Pavan Honda
-Cristian Gabarrini Honda(you might remember him..He worked with Casey Stoner and MM)
-Riccardo Sancassani honda
-Filippo Brunetti honda
-Ugo Gelmi honda
-Michele Andreini honda
-Elena Cecchinello Honda
-Roberto Canazza Honda
Factory Yamaha M1:
-Massimo Meregalli (team director)
-Walter Crippa
-Matteo flamigni
-Davide Marelli
-Valentino Negri
Its base is in Italy.
-Suzuki:
A lot of people now working for Suzuki are from the Ducati world. I saw a paddock coverage last year, with Paolo Ciabatti (Ducati) talking to an old friend dressing in Suzuki colors. They admitted most of the people that now are in Suzuki were working in Ducati, and they were happy Suzuki was doing well.
I'm not done. This is only about top class. Happy enough?
Guess where the peoplewho manage motorhomes, rider's suits etc are from? Yup.
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In my short time in this forum, I have found that it is best to comment on a new thread as soon as possible. That way you can chat about the intended topic. Shortly into a new thread, someone is bound to drop a little trolling message to hook people into an argument (i.e. the comments about a pillion seat for Marquez on Lorenzo's bike or whatever.)
I understand the desire to throw a comment like that back in the guy's face, but people should stop taking the bait and just let a few ones go.
I understand the desire to throw a comment like that back in the guy's face, but people should stop taking the bait and just let a few ones go.
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Weird how Yamaha is the first to unveil the new bike (well, the actual new one is being shipped to Sepang), while they said they were worried about having a big gap to fill from the others. Perhaps they are confindent with the bike and just need to tweak the eletronics.
Also, Edwards signed for yamaha motogp as a test driver. Not a bad at all. He already tested one week ago.
Also, Edwards signed for yamaha motogp as a test driver. Not a bad at all. He already tested one week ago.
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Nice effort, but still not proof of 'half the people in MGP' is it? Respsol Honda are mainly Japanese obviously, with some Spanish and Lucio Chechenello, not Elena Chechenello, I've never heard of him/her. I'm not denying there is a heavy Italian presence in the paddock, but I'd say the Spanish outnumber the Italians.
Again you are posting your OPINION, which is fine, but stop pushing it as fact.
With all due respect, this is a DISCUSSION FORUM....it's slow in the off season so topics will always go off thread a bit. What more is there to say about the original topic which is the 2016 livery launch?
If every thread stayed exactly on topic to the letter, then this place would cease to be.
I believe he signed up at the end of 2014 as a Yamaha/Michalin tester.
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No, he was a Michelin tester. Now he is only a private Yamaha tester, he will mainly work on the eletronics.
All these people I wrote are not "my opinion", they are real people, facts. Elena Cecchinello works for Honda LCR team, and so do many other italian people even if you never heard about them. Cheers
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There is at least one Canadian who works in the Motogp paddock
And about the motorhomes management, Paul Sannen from Belgium is the man.
And about the motorhomes management, Paul Sannen from Belgium is the man.
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