MotoGP 2012

Viper-7 said:

With the new teams coming to Moto GP next year a lot of riders will be coming as well, so who do you think will make their debut's or returning???



Who I reckon:

Bradl

Iannone

De Angelis

Sofouglu



Marquez,and Smith in my opinion need more experience before they go to Moto GP.



Johnny Rea (Talented rider, could possibly move to replace Elias in LCR).

John Hopkins (Made a good comeback at Jerez, set for another wildcard this year,doing well in BSB).



Obviously some riders may be leaving or retiring.



Who I reckon:

Elias (Struggling a lot with the tyres and Bike, could end up swapping seats with Johnny Rea, since they both ride Honda's in different disciplines).

Capirossi( Big fan of this guy, but rumors circulating about retirement, struggling with the bike, may possibly move to WSBK).

Aoyama ( Yet again not impressing, despite with 0 testing still struggled with factory Honda).





Colin Edwards I reckon has done enough this year to keep his seat for the next.

Dovizioso I reckon may get demoted and be replaced by Simoncelli.

Simoncelli need to get better results.





Please give suggestions on who you reckon would be coming or leaving Moto GP.

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Viper-7 said:

1 season on a Moto 2 bike does not guarantee knowledge to ride a GP bike. I reckon he should stay in Moto2 another season at least he is only 18 so no rush.

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ryan92 said:

I still have my doubts that Moto2 is the right feeder package for MotoGP. Yes the racing is great to watch, but do bikes with limited electronics and a control engine prepare riders for MotoGP bikes, which are a total contrast to Moto2 in terms of power and set-up?



Who knows, I could be talking a load of old bollocks...

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Viper-7 said:

Marquez will end up in Moto GP but the problem is does he have enough experience to?? 1 season on a Moto 2 bike does not guarantee knowledge to ride a GP bike. I reckon he should stay in Moto2 another season at least he is only 18 so no rush.

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lil red rocket pilot said:

I reckon repsol will keep marquez in moto2 until a ride is free in the honda gp garage. with stoner & pedro already contracted till the end of 2012 2013 will be the earliest we see him on the big boys grid.

Question is! who will get the chop? Stoner or Pedrosa? next season will probably give us the answer.

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Tom said:

Don't forget that rookies aren't allowed in factory teams. So I don't know what will be done there, he will clearly be on a factory bike like Simoncelli is but if that bike was to be in Repsol colours it would be hard to tell any difference. Unless the Repsol connection could be dormant for a year while he rides in different colours (perhaps that bank on his bike now) with Repsol as just a personal sponsor. I think his entire team setup will progress with him, all the staff he works with now, same sponsors and a factory Honda. Kind of like the satellite factory teams we have seen in the past (Nastro Azuro 2000/01 or Kanemoto Honda 89).

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Honda racing boss Shuhei Nakamoto says it is unlikely the works team will have three riders next year, suggesting Andrea Dovizioso and even Marco Simoncelli will lose their official support.



Honda decided to run a third works bike this year, after Casey Stoner joined Dani Pedrosa and Dovizioso in the team.



Simoncelli currently races for the satellite Gresini squad, but he uses the same bike as the works riders.



Nakamoto says Honda's budget will be reduced from next year and, as things stand now, he believes only Stoner and Pedrosa will remain on board in 2012.



"These are hard times, the economic crisis is far from over," Nakamoto was quoted as saying by Motosprint magazine.



"On top of that, Japan has some big problems due to the disasters that happened last spring. All our industrial sector has had to slow down production by 30 per cent, and Honda is not immune from that. So we had to cut costs too.



"If I was forced to make an announcement today with regards to our 2012 riders, I could only talk about the works team because Stoner and Pedrosa are the only ones with a contract for next season. So I would have to say goodbye to both Simoncelli and Dovizioso.



"I've asked both to wait and be patient: we are trying to solve the situation, which is fundamentally tied to a matter of money. The budget will be cut, but I don't yet know by how much. By mid-August everything should be clearer."



Motosprint reports that it is likely there will be just four 1,000cc Hondas in 2012: two for the works team, and two for the satellite riders.



Currently the Japanese manufacturer fields six bikes.

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Tom said:

Only riding a motogp bike gives knowledge of riding motogp bikes. The Marquez decision is an interesting one because he's already looking like he has moto2 sussed, wet or dry and by the end of the year i would imagine he'll be at a pretty consistent level. If he stays another year he is likely to dominate the following season, while it may be appealing to get another world title to his name and do some more winning for his sponsors he might not actually learn that much more. Riding in motogp would challenge him beyond anything he has come accross so far in his career and thus give him the greatest potential learning experience. The trouble is A) If it is too soon he could be overwealmed and damage the momentum his career is so quickly picking up. And

There may not be space for him at Honda.







I have a similar doubt, especially considering what Dovi recently said. A moto2 bike is under powered for it's chassis while being extremely difficult to control into the corners due to engine breaking. A motogp bike is overppowered for its chassis and goes into corners smoothly due to electronic back torque control. Dunlops are for from Bridgestones too, so perhaps the riding techniques used to be good in moto2 are not applicable to motogp. In moto2's favour though it lets riders cut their teeth at GP level, on a gp chassis, riding against the best competition possible and in the right paddock. Good riders will make it to the top one way or another and the casualties due to individual characteristics of bikes in one class or another will be the minority as always

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Tom said:

Only riding a motogp bike gives knowledge of riding motogp bikes. The Marquez decision is an interesting one because he's already looking like he has moto2 sussed, wet or dry and by the end of the year i would imagine he'll be at a pretty consistent level. If he stays another year he is likely to dominate the following season, while it may be appealing to get another world title to his name and do some more winning for his sponsors he might not actually learn that much more. Riding in motogp would challenge him beyond anything he has come accross so far in his career and thus give him the greatest potential learning experience. The trouble is A) If it is too soon he could be overwealmed and damage the momentum his career is so quickly picking up. And

There may not be space for him at Honda.







I have a similar doubt, especially considering what Dovi recently said. A moto2 bike is under powered for it's chassis while being extremely difficult to control into the corners due to engine breaking. A motogp bike is overppowered for its chassis and goes into corners smoothly due to electronic back torque control. Dunlops are for from Bridgestones too, so perhaps the riding techniques used to be good in moto2 are not applicable to motogp. In moto2's favour though it lets riders cut their teeth at GP level, on a gp chassis, riding against the best competition possible and in the right paddock. Good riders will make it to the top one way or another and the casualties due to individual characteristics of bikes in one class or another will be the minority as always

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povol said:

He is not out of title contention for this years Moto2, but Bradl will have to DNF along the way for it to happen.

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Tom said:

I'm not sure i agree with you. 47 points in 8 races is not unthinkable by any means.

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PASSI said:

Will they be running three fac hondas in 2012??? (plus simoncellis)?



I see Bradl, Iannone coming.

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ryan92 said:

I still have my doubts that Moto2 is the right feeder package for MotoGP. Yes the racing is great to watch, but do bikes with limited electronics and a control engine prepare riders for MotoGP bikes, which are a total contrast to Moto2 in terms of power and set-up?



Who knows, I could be talking a load of old bollocks...

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