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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stevo @ Mar 14 2009, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No need to apologise - this is the funniest thing I've read in ages.
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EXACTLY!
 
Why Mexico? Do they even have a world class venue to host such a big event like MotoGP? Here in America the tracks aren't even up to par with the European countries..... poorly designed tracks with horrible outdated facilities. And please don't tell me about Road America....just because the track is long with scenery doesn't mean it's good. The track is shiit.... Mickey Mouse circuit.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Mar 14 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why Mexico? Do they even have a world class venue to host such a big event like MotoGP? Here in America the tracks aren't even up to par with the European countries..... poorly designed tracks with horrible outdated facilities. And please don't tell me about Road America....just because the track is long with scenery doesn't mean it's good. The track is shiit.... Mickey Mouse circuit.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Mar 13 2009, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good thing I still have another case of beer in here...

can i join u ?
i got a .... load bottles a cider.mix'em into snake bites with da beer and we can get rat arsed.while reading this funny .....!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Mar 15 2009, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>can i join u ?
i got a .... load bottles a cider.mix'em into snake bites with da beer and we can get rat arsed.while reading this funny .....!!
Strongbow?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Mar 14 2009, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Damn, I just got back and the beer is finished... good thing I've got this joint to calm my nerves!
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Screw a beer I geetin a keg and we all can just party and forget our differences for a bit and lets get to gp.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Mar 14 2009, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why Mexico? Do they even have a world class venue to host such a big event like MotoGP? Here in America the tracks aren't even up to par with the European countries..... poorly designed tracks with horrible outdated facilities. And please don't tell me about Road America....just because the track is long with scenery doesn't mean it's good. The track is shiit.... Mickey Mouse circuit.
Mexico hosts a nascar race and they do well with it. Good for them they are trying. They also hosted an NFL game and they are becoming a viable market but my guess is that is that if you asked the average mexican citizen they would describe it non satisfactory. If it was so great for them why are they trying to get to the US?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 14 2009, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone of you that think Obama is the top dog in America...seriously you need to turn your TV off. Better still throw it out the window.
Wait he may tax that next. lol.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Mar 14 2009, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>can i join u ?
i got a .... load bottles a cider.mix'em into snake bites with da beer and we can get rat arsed.while reading this funny .....!!

Sure thing, buddy! Join the crew!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>(gsfan @ Mar 14 2009, 01:26 AM)
Anyone of you that think Obama is the top dog in America...seriously you need to turn your TV off. Better still throw it out the window.

Don't blame the doctor because the medicine tastes bad. Blame the man that made you ill !
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Mar 14 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why Mexico? Do they even have a world class venue to host such a big event like MotoGP? Here in America the tracks aren't even up to par with the European countries..... poorly designed tracks with horrible outdated facilities. And please don't tell me about Road America....just because the track is long with scenery doesn't mean it's good. The track is shiit.... Mickey Mouse circuit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (two-stroke @ Mar 14 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Thank you. Road America is a fantastic circuit. Unfortunately, being situated in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin means that there isn't much of a draw. And if there isn't much of a draw, there isn't much money in the track. Although in the past few years, RA has undergone a multi-million dollar facelift to improve the facilities. It's getting better. However, the track is still not up to European safety standards and likely never will be without tearing out the heart of the track, the kettle bottoms. A very fast section with a few bends in it through the woods, upwards of 170mph into hard braking. But the section is situated between the base of a hill and a ravine so it would be impossible to improve runoff area in the section without spending astronomical amounts of money. It's really too bad, reading some of the real riders of the series, you know, a rider's rider, they all speak quite highly of Road America and Bostrom has said it has the most European flow of any track on the calendar.

Road America FTW.
 
Whats the track in the UK where the bikes get both wheels off the ground??
Cadwell Park maybe?

That crest launches bikes into the air. Certainly sort the men from the boys on a GP bike.

Both wheels off the ground would freak the TC systems though.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Mar 14 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mexico hosts a nascar race and they do well with it. Good for them they are trying. They also hosted an NFL game and they are becoming a viable market but my guess is that is that if you asked the average mexican citizen they would describe it non satisfactory. If it was so great for them why are they trying to get to the US?

The Nascar race was canceled due to a large drop in attendance and popularity. Also Nascar set up a Mexico championship and felt this race would take much participation and coverage from the series. It ran well the first two years as drivers like Adrian Fernandez and Michel Jourdain Jr. ran well, but when the home drivers struggled, so did the fans finding a reason to go.

There are no current circuits in the country that could host a MotoGP round without massive reconstruction and updating. Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez (former Nascar, F1, and Champ Car circuit) has little runoff in sections. The final corner would be very dangerous for a bike, as they would be braking for it at over 160-170 mph, and with no runoff but a concrete wall, it would do deadly. Champ Car felt the cars were going too fast into the corner, and placed a chicane about 200 yards before the corner to slow speeds.

You have Fundoria Park in Monterrey, but that is alot like Melbourne is F1 and would not be a viable bike circuit. Many of the other circuits like the one in Puebla are just not large enough to hold an event like MotoGP.

Going to the satisfaction of Mexico. The country has very many families you could call middle class, but that also suffer a large group that struck in poverty, and those are the one's who come daily to the US.

Road America is a brilliant circuit. One of my favorites. But I do not see the promoters spending 10's, if not 100's of millions of dollars to fund the updating and rebuilding of the circuit for one event. You would loose much of the tracks tradition and possible historic sections that were cut in, or altered, just for one event. It does have a draw though. It is only a few hundred miles from Chicago. A much better draw that Salt Lake City for Miller Motorsports Park.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeePee @ Mar 17 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats the track in the UK where the bikes get both wheels off the ground??
Cadwell Park maybe?

That crest launches bikes into the air. Certainly sort the men from the boys on a GP bike.

Both wheels off the ground would freak the TC systems though.
Yep, it's Cadwell.

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And this is what happens when you get The Mountain wrong.
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I'm even surprised they still have BSB after Chris Jones and Ashley Martin got killed there in the last few years, so I couldn't imagine the GP guys ever wanting to race it.

It would be awesome though as it creates great racing, and it's a great track for spectators - you can almost touch the riders as they go through Hall Bends.
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Here's an onboard lap.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Mar 18 2009, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First time I had ever seen that was Johnny Rea airborne. Yeah he is a badass.
 

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