Montmeló crash!

Once the crash had happened and no one really knew what was happening with marco, sete and loris, it reminded me of when kato crashed out and no one really knew what happened there, well at least thats how i remembered it, dont u think??

but rossi deserved to win, he would have done even there hadnt been carnage at the start, and hayden is so reliable where podium finishes are concerned.

its a shame stoner only has one speed as charlie cox and steve parish say, but at least when they both bombed they didnt blame anyone but themselves (stoner and pedrosa)

by the end no kwaks, ducs, or gresini hondas passed the line!!!

thoughts with all injured tho

Fortuna honda

teo rossi did last season when he took marco out didnt he?

teo u cant help bringing rossi into it can uuuuuuuuuuuu?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jun 18 2006, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Accusing Dani of not taking care of Marco is plain stupid and a very cheap shot.
Never in my life I've seen one rider go and take care of the other fallen riders, it's not their job they're riders not doctors.
What Dani did (get up on his bike and continue) is what 100% of the riders do. And I'm sure if it had been Rossi the one in Dani's place you wouldn't have posted that crap.
There was the German GP in 04 or 05 that Rossi attended to Marco. I bet they tell the riders to leave the fallen alone. Could have you imagined if Dani went over and moved Marco. We than may have another ride restricted to a chair.

I think we all need to chip in and buy some brush guards in red engraved with #15 and send them to the appropriate rider. He has my vote for the cause of all of this. Another reason why he is at the bottom of my list.

As for some one mentioning about the rookies going down the same as before, well lets hope that this dosent happen again for this team of youth may be already showing their limits

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Jun 18 2006, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>teo rossi did last season when he took marco out didnt he?

teo u cant help bringing rossi into it can uuuuuuuuuuuu?
Sorry, about that "rossi 46 winner" I stepped away to help a customer, and bam, you bet me.

i have to agree with some points made by teo and traverser.

i've never seen another rider go help another one after a crash. like teo said they are riders not doctors. what help can they be in such an incident?? when a rider crashes do the others stop to see if they are alright? no they dont so i personally dont see why todays accident should be any different. riders pick themselves up if they are able to do so and try to rejoin the race.

and traverser is spot on when he says what would have happened if dani had moved marco. the first rule of such a crash is you dont move the rider till you have secured the neck and spine in case it is damaged. notice they put a brace on it before stretchering him off. otherwise you could have ended up with marco being paralysed and never racing again. and nobody would want that.

I remember Rossi going to help Marco at motegi, but he was stuffed then anyway and he wasn`t going to rejoin the race, so why not help a friend? But Pedrosa is in the green this time. He had no obligation, not even a moral one to help Marco, like Traverser and Matt said, he could well have done more damage.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Jun 19 2006, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think we all need to chip in and buy some brush guards in red engraved with #15 and send them to the appropriate rider. He has my vote for the cause of all of this. Another reason why he is at the bottom of my list.

come on, that`s a bit rough. It`s not like he deliberately tried to kill them all then walked away unharmed. Gibernau made a small mistake, and with the help of a lot of bad luck it snowballed into a serious pile up. Talk about kicking a man while he`s down. I`m sure he`s hurting right now, there`s no need to slag him like that. You Rossi fans gotta learn the diffrence between the ........ (Biaggi) and guys that just get in Rossi`s way (Gibernau)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jun 18 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Accusing Dani of not taking care of Marco is plain stupid and a very cheap shot. Is is indeed. Sometimes I wonder if some posters commenting liberally about incidents have ever had a crash, not that I wish they ever have, but such an experience would make them wiser and humbler.

This was a racing incident, no rider should have the blame on them.

The only time I've seen a rider try and "help", which has been mentioned already is when rossi punted marco of the track (think it was @ motegi last year?) - and that was just to say sorry!

... looks like im a bit late today.

i almost missed the first corner carnage thanks to a badly timed phonecall ... but holy ...., that was bad aye.

i think some credit has to be given to hopkins ... he rode a great race, even after being caught up in the first mishap. He rode the race with a twisted back and a suspected fracture or break in his ankle ... and he STILL was sticking with KR, who did really well too

Pedrosa -my point about my bad luck isn't proven yet as it was a pretty crash-marred race ...

stoner just lost the front and tried to gain it again by turning on the throttle, but it didn't work and it spun him backwards.

what the hell happened to Elias?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capirex @ Jun 18 2006, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>P.S. Congrats to Rossi!!.
My opinion: The luck of the doctor strikes again. From the first 6-7 riders only 2 scored: Rossi and Hayden. He 's now on 3rd and 29 points away of Nicky and only 9 from Loris. And if Loris doesn't race at assen it will easy to rossi to pick the trail for the batlle of the champinship. He will win becouse i can't see hayden stand up to Rossi. Not a chance.

Actually I bet Rossi would have preferred to have Capi, Gib and Marco, not to mention Pedrosa, all on the result list in this race and the comming races. Not only because he has a normal level of EQ and compassion, but also for the championship-fight.
The reason is that there now is one single challenger, Hayden, the rest is more or less out of the fight. That wil lead to a few things. Unless Hayden loose lots of points to Pedrosa we will not see Pedrosa in a real position fight with Hayden in the next races, he will, by team order or by own decition, leave the best spot for Hayden. The other big issue is that there are very few others that can fight for the podium. Taking out most of the regular podium fighters means that Hayden will have a much easier way of continue to get podiums and stay in front.
As I've said before; the reason that Rossi still had a good shot at the championship was that while he will win most of the races the rest would fight among each others for the rest of the points unless one of them raise up above the others. Now that has changed and although I still would put my money on Rossi, Haydens ods for a championship win has improved, by accident.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 19 2006, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>come on, that`s a bit rough. It`s not like he deliberately tried to kill them all then walked away unharmed. Gibernau made a small mistake, and with the help of a lot of bad luck it snowballed into a serious pile up.

Agree, it was a racing incident where no one are to blame.
And the snowball was Capi that crached into Melandri. Strangly enough I watched live a similar thing when this went on in a national race. Two riders bumped and as one lost control he involaintarily drove both into a line where they would and up into the wall along the pits. Fortunatly the one closer to the wall could see what's comming and slamms his bike down avioding the wall with a few cm and both get away unhurt.

Riders not helping others? Dont forget Sheene saved John Williams life many years ago by pulling his tongue out and stopping John choking on his own tongue.Dont harm to do a little research.

dunno if anyone's seen this yet...

from crash.net
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Unfortunately, the ambulance taking Gibernau to hospital was involved in a minor accident with a bus just 50 metres from the hospital entrance, though Sete suffered no further injuries in that incident.

hows that for more gibber-luck!?

by the way im not blaming anyone so u lot back up im just saying teo always has a dig at rossi whenever he can AS NORMAL.
good point drill.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL666 @ Jun 19 2006, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Riders not helping others? Dont forget Sheene saved John Williams life many years ago by pulling his tongue out and stopping John choking on his own tongue.Dont harm to do a little research.
good point drill.... but a different era.

racing incedent. no point in laying blame on anyone..... gibbers is truly cursed tho! the ambulance thing was just the finale straw..... unbelieveble!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Jun 19 2006, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think some credit has to be given to hopkins ... he rode a great race, even after being caught up in the first mishap. He rode the race with a twisted back and a suspected fracture or break in his ankle ... and he STILL was sticking with KR, who did really well too The way Hopper negotiated the curves was radically different to KRJr's. His body language seemed to be one of huge effort. The kid is motivated after China.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Jun 19 2006, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what the hell happened to Elias? I don't know! He is fading away!

The ambulance drivers were racing each other or what? Hey, you're Gibernau, you, Capirossi, I take Melandri! Go, go, go!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vespix @ Jun 19 2006, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The way Hopper negotiated the curves was radically different to KRJr's. His body language seemed to be one of huge effort. The kid is motivated after China.

I didn't try to study my lousy VCR recording but according to Norwegian comentators Hopper generated a huge problem after only a few laps. He couldn't get the turn in to work as the bike understeered and regulary missed the apex with a metre or two. He had to fight that problem for the rest of the race. Situation considered he put up a good fight.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vespix @ Jun 19 2006, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The way Hopper negotiated the curves was radically different to KRJr's. His body language seemed to be one of huge effort.
i think maybe his sore back & ankle was'nt helping.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vespix @ Jun 19 2006, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.
I don't know! He is fading away!
fading! i don't even think he was there! his big chance to shine, in spain, a little anyway, & he crashes. this kid needs to get his .... together.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 19 2006, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I didn't try to study my lousy VCR recording
1 word...... TIVO!

It's amusing the way some folk on here are having a pop at this seasons newcomers. Looking back over the years no one has come into this championship and won the title in their first year.
It's known as learning. It doesn't matter what they've ridden before.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Jun 19 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's amusing the way some folk on here are having a pop at this seasons newcomers. Looking back over the years no one has come into this championship and won the title in their first year.
It's known as learning. It doesn't matter what they've ridden before.

Indeed!

I think Stoner & Dani are having a great season, imagine how the champs would look if they hadnt crashed out.

Anyone else noticed how fast Stoner is out of the blocks too? He had two superb starts yesterday...............rocket fuel.

Once they both calm it down a bit and get the experiance, we have two very fast and talented guys to mix up the season.

Who's gonna get the first win & when, thats the big q!