Money in Motogp

Tobacco money should not have been banned. If parents can't control their own like every other generation did then tough hsit. The world has gone the way of the wuss and thin skinned so the decline of things like MOTOGP are going to happen when something like Tobacco gets the finger pointed at them. Hell SuperSic knew the risks of racing and we all cheered him on. We all know the risks of tobacco so in the end is there really and difference? No cause they both have the chance to either come out dead or smelling like roses. The idea of taking MotoGP and making it an IROC type series....lol...ok, anyone really want to watch that? More power to ya if you want but for my money, no dice. I would like to see Pepsi back in it, or a Ducati CocaCola sponsored bike, so it can remain red, hehehe. But the bottom line is, folks don't you think you are mature enough to make decisions in your lives? Are you that weak you need a govt, or some sanctioning body to made decsions for you? It is killing not only MotoGP but also F1, not to mention the series we don't really see behind the scenes. The door should be wide open and we as adults make our own decisions on what we feel is right for ourselves. Let the sport thrive, and if one maker sucks then they suck. THat is racing. I am a ducatista, and even though I wanted to bad for a Rossi win, well, he and Ducati didn't earn it. Honda and Stoner surely did.

Mental Anarchist said:

There are accountants in Newcastle who also earn a lot less. Income (most of the time) depends on how good you are at your trade. Just like a crap accountant doesn't achieve the best for his client the same applies for sales people. The same applies for all professions. Go see a crap doctor and see how well it turns out and they have a 6 year degree. Try walking into court with a crap lawyer and see how you go. A good (insert profession here) does the best for their customer and that is why the make money. Degrees at the end of the day mean .... when it comes to earning potential.



The same applies to MotoGP. Ezepleta is a crap promoter and that is why MotoGP is in the toilet with sponsors and can't attract money. Stick a great sales person in his role and MotoGP would not be looking to reduce costs, they would be thriving.

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Yes I do agree - good and bad in every career path. I'm merely pointing out that having a degree is not a licence to earn less money. It's the quality of the person and the decisions they make that matter. Just as you have said with Caramello Koala.

woody996 said:

Yes I do agree - good and bad in every career path. I'm merely pointing out that having a degree is not a licence to earn less money. It's the quality of the person and the decisions they make that matter. Just as you have said with Caramello Koala.

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I should add, sometimes people make a lot of money not because they are good but because they know the right people and are in the right place at the right time. As David Gallop (NRL) said about a client of mine, "he got hit in the arse with a rainbow".

Isn't it irreverent to talk about tobacco sponsorship? It isn't allowed to be viewed in most of the countries that MotoGP broadcasts to and where races are held. That's pretty much the end of the discussion.



I think motorcycle racing has the added problem that it has two world series that compete against eachother. For the average person SBK and MotoGP are the same other than the riders. It divides the sponsorship pool like Champcar and Indy did. I am not sure what you do about that though.



Dorna are working on improving things but they have left it very late. The MSMA have managed to take the sport down a ridiculous rabbit hole where the bikes cost a fortune, engines have as much road relevancy as the 500cc 2-strokes and have noncompetitive racing. The average person would care if every bike was CRT as long as the racing was good and the bikes looked/sounded fantastic.

Ezpelata a crap promoter?

I fully agree!

He is ruining the sport!

browney said:

Isn't it irreverent to talk about tobacco sponsorship? It isn't allowed to be viewed in most of the countries that MotoGP broadcasts to and where races are held. That's pretty much the end of the discussion.



I think motorcycle racing has the added problem that it has two world series that compete against eachother. For the average person SBK and MotoGP are the same other than the riders. It divides the sponsorship pool like Champcar and Indy did. I am not sure what you do about that though.



Dorna are working on improving things but they have left it very late. The MSMA have managed to take the sport down a ridiculous rabbit hole where the bikes cost a fortune, engines have as much road relevancy as the 500cc 2-strokes and have noncompetitive racing. The average person would care if every bike was CRT as long as the racing was good and the bikes looked/sounded fantastic.

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Well, you can have tobacco sponsors, they just have to be represented in other ways that aren't so overt. Look at Ducati, they are still sponsored by Marlboro. So you could have it, it just has to be conforming to those countries who don't allow it to be displayed.



As for MotoGP and SBK being in competition of each other well...If GP goes CRT then it won't really be the pinnicle of racing anymore. Sure there will be bright spots but not like SBK. It is some of the same reasoning as to why the AMA in the U.S. has been so horrible. You don't have the best bikes on the grid. You have basic stuff and can't do anything with them. The best riders will be leaving GP in the very near future if there are no factory teams. Presentation controls perception, and CRT motogp will be percepted as a club racing sport and no longer the best of the best, because it won't be. Do you think Vale, Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Spies, etc, will want to be on a non factory bike and team, when they are available in SBK? Do you think the factories will put money into SBK or CRTgp? You know what is going to happen. The manuf. will be doing all their dev for SBK and it will make sence cause any dev will be used on customer machines in the near future. It is just good business sense. CRT doesn't offer much when you really look at it. Dorna will spin it as much as they can to get you to like it. But only time will tell.



GP is walking a road towards a Nascar style of racing. The want to manufacture races so they can make the spectacle. Hey, some may love it I'm sure. But todays top riders are going to be the ones who either make it or break it. I just don't see the top guys on these club style non factory bikes, when you could easily go to SBK, get a factory ride, have all the factory sponsorship and everything that goes with it. More money then comes into that sport and will eventually wilt the chances of GP surviving. We shall see though.