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Mat Mladin to World Superbike, maybe

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I just saw this tweet from Mladin:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>a couple of world superbike offers have come my way in the past month. 1 of them very good in regards to machinery. decisions decisions ;-)
https://twitter.com/MatMladin/status/6507865902

I wonder who the teams are.

Do you reckon he'll go to WSBK?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mjpartyboy @ Dec 9 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just saw this tweet from Mladin:


https://twitter.com/MatMladin/status/6507865902

I wonder who the teams are.

Do you reckon he'll go to WSBK?

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What became of all the "I don't want to travel" sniveling he's been spewing for the last half-decade?

Suddenly he's reconsidering?
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Yea......
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Dec 9 2009, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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What became of all the "I don't want to travel" sniveling he's been spewing for the last half-decade?

Suddenly he's reconsidering?
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Yea......
He just spent the first 3 succesive months alone with his wife in the last 15 years. Time for a hobby
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I'll believe it when I see it otherwise I think it his twit is a poor attempt tho keep himself relevant.

Here's what I find interesting. He is an AMA guy and us Yanks would love to see an AMA guy kicking ... in WSBK. Most of us have spent his entire career rooting agains't him. If he joined WSBK would you have a change of heart and be able to root for him ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Dec 9 2009, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll believe it when I see it otherwise I think it his twit is a poor attempt tho keep himself relevant.

Here's what I find interesting. He is an AMA guy and us Yanks would love to see an AMA guy kicking ... in WSBK. Most of us have spent his entire career rooting agains't him. If he joined WSBK would you have a change of heart and be able to root for him ?

Yes,because if he went in a won,it would show all the rockheads that bitched and moaned about Suzuki's dominance in the AMA what they were witnessing for the last ten years. Not a broken series, but complete and utter dominance from 2 riders who were levels above the rest. Plus it would make DMG look even more inept [if that possible] for running off the only draw they had.Im not sure if the fire is still there,he wasnt into it the last half of the year and was just going thru the motions. Is that something you can flick back on ,it would be fun to see him try.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Dec 10 2009, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll believe it when I see it otherwise I think it his twit is a poor attempt tho keep himself relevant.

Here's what I find interesting. He is an AMA guy and us Yanks would love to see an AMA guy kicking ... in WSBK. Most of us have spent his entire career rooting agains't him. If he joined WSBK would you have a change of heart and be able to root for him ?

Calling Mladin a "AMA guy" is kinda like calling a citizen of Belfast an Englishman.
Yeah - he raced AMA for 20 years but - Mladin is to my thinking - on his own planet.
The expression "No man is an island" does not apply to him. Anyway - he's not from the USA.
Racing in AMA events for Mladin was more like his day job; where he went to get a paycheck.
So no... if he raced in WSBK - I wouldn't feel especially inclined to root for him. He's still
an arrogant, self-indulgent ..........

Excerpt from Superbike Planet interview:

"After he had won the title for a third time, and after a trying season, new Yamaha WSBK rider Ben Spies, when referring to Mladin, would not even say his name. He referred to Mladin as "that motherfcker"."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Dec 10 2009, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Calling Mladin a "AMA guy" is kinda like calling a citizen of Belfast an Englishman.
Yeah - he raced AMA for 20 years but - Mladin is to my thinking - on his own planet.
The expression "No man is an island" does not apply to him. Anyway - he's not from the USA.
Racing in AMA events for Mladin was more like his day job; where he went to get a paycheck.
So no... if he raced in WSBK - I wouldn't feel especially inclined to root for him. He's still
an arrogant, self-indulgent ..........

Excerpt from Superbike Planet interview:

"After he had won the title for a third time, and after a trying season, new Yamaha WSBK rider Ben Spies, when referring to Mladin, would not even say his name. He referred to Mladin as "that motherfcker"."
I see a Wikipedia education coming your way at any time.
 
I think it's possible. Especially considering Yosh Japan are running select rounds of WSBK this season. Interesting that his tweet came out about a week after Yosh Japan said they would only run select rounds for 2010. He said he doesn't want to be away from his family for extended periods of time, but if he's only racing in four events, why not?

To have such a talented rider on such an inexperienced squad, I'd imagine Mladin would even have some input on what races he would run. Phillip Island would be a no brainer, I'd imagine he wouldn't be too bothered to run Miller. Throw in two of Valencia, Monza, Imola and Magny Cours to appeal to potential sponsors and you've got a pretty well spaced out schedule for Mladin.

If he does it, I'd be pulling for him. He's still an ......., but an immensely talented ........
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Dec 10 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I see a Wikipedia education coming your way at any time.

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Yeah... saw those posts. Technically since
Belfast is in the north it is considered a part of the UK - but
all the Irish I know - take offence when referred to as "English"
I use to travel the club racing circuits here on the East Coast
with a bunch of Irish guys (who taught me to ride in the rain)
and they always referred to the British as "Fookin' tea bags"
and that was what they called them when they were in a good
mood and not drunk.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Dec 10 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Yeah... saw those posts. Technically since
Belfast is in the north it is considered a part of the UK - but
all the Irish I know - take offence when referred to as "English"
That'd be because they're Irish perhaps - so I wonder why they might take offence. Try the same trick in Northern Wales and see what occurs!!

Despite the fact that there are actually some Northern Irish of English descent, the issue of contention here is 'Britishness' which is a rather anachronistic umbrella term - as opposed to Englishness.

Just for the record Povol, my Father is Irish - (from County Wicklow), and my Mother is Welsh, (from Ceredigion), and I was raised in England - I don't need to consult Wikipedia on the subject - just as you wouldn't need to look up the entry for neo-con redneck, the KKK or the NRA. Besides a Wikipedia education is a contradiction in terms!!

Actually, what's far worse than confusing the Irish with the English is people who pretend to be Irish. Fourth generation supposed descendants who have discovered that their Great Great Great Grandmothers Second Cousin half removed stepped off the boat at Ellis Island. You of all people should know this Keshav - The bars in Hells Kitchen were full of them - filling up donation buckets to the IRA while over here shopping precincts and high streets were being firebombed on a thrice weekly basis.

Regarding Maladin - isn't he too preoccupied with his light aircraft and his import business concerns? Love to see him on the World stage - I remember his brief inauspicious foray into GP during the '90's. I also remember the Yoshi team testing some years ago at PI at the same time as the WSBk guys and he smoked the entire field. Then again, come to think of it, he wasn't on Pirelli's.

There's no team out there that'd match what he earned in the U.S.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Dec 10 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That'd be because they're Irish perhaps - so I wonder why they might take offence. Try the same trick in Northern Wales and see what occurs!!

Despite the fact that there are actually some Northern Irish of English descent, the issue of contention here is 'Britishness' which is a rather anachronistic umbrella term - as opposed to Englishness.

Just for the record Povol, my Father is Irish - (from County Wicklow), and my Mother is Welsh, (from Ceredigion), and I was raised in England - I don't need to consult Wikipedia on the subject - just as you wouldn't need to look up the entry for neo-con redneck, the KKK or the NRA. Besides a Wikipedia education is a contradiction in terms!!

Actually, what's far worse than confusing the Irish with the English is people who pretend to be Irish. Fourth generation supposed descendants who have discovered that their Great Great Great Grandmothers Second Cousin half removed stepped off the boat at Ellis Island. You of all people should know this Keshav - The bars in Hells Kitchen were full of them - filling up donation buckets to the IRA while over here shopping precincts and high streets were being firebombed on a thrice weekly basis.

Regarding Maladin - isn't he too preoccupied with his light aircraft and his import business concerns? Love to see him on the World stage - I remember his brief inauspicious foray into GP during the '90's. I also remember the Yoshi team testing some years ago at PI at the same time as the WSBk guys and he smoked the entire field. Then again, come to think of it, he wasn't on Pirelli's.

There's no team out there that'd match what he earned in the U.S.

I wouldnt,but obviously,you do

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Dec 10 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wouldnt,but obviously,you do

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back on topic....I would like to see Mladin for a few select rounds at the WSBK level. I'm sure it's on Yosh Zooks, he would be the best guy for helping them get the bike sorted.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Dec 9 2009, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll believe it when I see it otherwise I think it his twit is a poor attempt tho keep himself relevant.

Nail on head. Brett Farve anyone?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Here's what I find interesting. He is an AMA guy and us Yanks would love to see an AMA guy kicking ... in WSBK. Most of us have spent his entire career rooting agains't him. If he joined WSBK would you have a change of heart and be able to root for him ?

Only in the sense that this would continue to elevate the AMA talent pool profile. Yes, it would be odd, but good thing we won't ever have to cross that bridge, Mladin is way to chickenshit to test himself against the top world riders.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Dec 10 2009, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think it's possible. Especially considering Yosh Japan are running select rounds of WSBK this season. Interesting that his tweet came out about a week after Yosh Japan said they would only run select rounds for 2010.

Wow!
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Look what happens when you stop and think before blurting out any-old stupid answer!

Makes sense to me!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Dec 10 2009, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, it would be odd, but good thing <u>we won't ever have to cross that bridge</u>, Mladin is way to chickenshit to test himself against the top world riders.

Gonna write that one down, Bro!
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Well, Jumkie was right. Mladin pussied out in a big way.

Guess I can tear that one up and toss it on the pyre!

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Kropotkin is linking Mladin to the satellite BMW team. Supposedly BMW is backing this team in a big way and it will be run by the same guy who ran Corser's world championship Ducati team in the 90s, can't remember his name. Mladin's always said the only way he goes world championship racing is with the proper backing and support. Even if BMW is promising great deals of support and the team is run by a former champion, I don't see it adding up. BMW would have to pick up his salary, and for Mladin to ride a virtual unknown entity (in comparison to his knowledge of Suzukis), I'd imagine he'd be looking for a raise.

Unless they're going to build this team entirely around Mladin, ie bring in all his old crew, Pete Doyle and company, give him factory level support and pay him at least similar amounts to what he was making at Suzuki, I don't see it panning out.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Dec 11 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kropotkin is linking Mladin to the satellite BMW team. Supposedly BMW is backing this team in a big way and it will be run by the same guy who ran Corser's world championship Ducati team in the 90s, can't remember his name. Mladin's always said the only way he goes world championship racing is with the proper backing and support. Even if BMW is promising great deals of support and the team is run by a former champion, I don't see it adding up. BMW would have to pick up his salary, and for Mladin to ride a virtual unknown entity (in comparison to his knowledge of Suzukis), I'd imagine he'd be looking for a raise.

Unless they're going to build this team entirely around Mladin, ie bring in all his old crew, Pete Doyle and company, give him factory level support and pay him at least similar amounts to what he was making at Suzuki, I don't see it panning out.
Wow, this thing has grown some legs.

When Mladin said ...he would go world championship racing with the proper backing and support, what he meant was: 'I will only race at the world level if am on the best proven bike, best crew, making the most money and guaranteed championship.'
 

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