Lin Jarvis interveiw

alex29 · Mar 1, 2011

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/167051/3/jarvis_expects_three-way_motogp_title_fight.html

Yamaha to test 1000cc M1 after Mugello round, bring it on !!!!!!!!!!!!!

povol · Mar 1, 2011

Oniker said:
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/167051/3/jarvis_expects_three-way_motogp_title_fight.html

Yamaha to test 1000cc M1 after Mugello round, bring it on !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Interview, thanks.

As for the M1 1000. Will Yamaha be sticking with the cross plane.

Keshav · Mar 1, 2011

Thanks for the link! Jarvis talking about 50th anniversary celebrations with

participation by past champions makes it even more imperative to get to

Laguna this year. I imagine Rainey will be there as always - but Lawson

and the King will doubtless attend as well.

Kropotkin · Mar 1, 2011

Oniker said:
Yamaha to test 1000cc M1 after Mugello round, bring it on !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm. That would be illegal. Official tests are after Estoril and after Brno. Perhaps Jarvis got his dates mixed up?

mylexicon · Mar 1, 2011

Kropotkin said:
Hmmm. That would be illegal. Official tests are after Estoril and after Brno. Perhaps Jarvis got his dates mixed up?

Maybe, maybe not. Denning said the testing rules are very poorly written and that you could theoretically test whenever you want as long as you have a 22L gas tank equipped. Imagine how much you could test with a 1000cc engine.

Do they even have 1000cc testing rules in place?

alex29 · Mar 10, 2011

Kropotkin said:
Hmmm. That would be illegal. Official tests are after Estoril and after Brno. Perhaps Jarvis got his dates mixed up?

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/6076/motogp-1000s-to-see-testing-debut-at-mugello

I guess Lin Jarvis isn't telling us porkie pies! Bring it on!!!!!

Kropotkin · Mar 10, 2011

Oniker said:
http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/6076/motogp-1000s-to-see-testing-debut-at-mugello

I guess Lin Jarvis isn't telling us porkie pies! Bring it on!!!!!

Spotted that, and am really annoyed that I got this wrong, as I've already booked my flights back from Mugello on Monday afternoon. Will only catch a bit of the 1000s...

alex29 · Mar 10, 2011

Kropotkin said:
Spotted that, and am really annoyed that I got this wrong, as I've already booked my flights back from Mugello on Monday afternoon. Will only catch a bit of the 1000s...

Mugello is a few months away, heaps of time to change your flights methinks!

Kropotkin · Mar 10, 2011

Oniker said:
Mugello is a few months away, heaps of time to change your flights methinks!

Not without losing money. Trouble with buying cheapest flights possible is that you don't get to change them later

Talpa · Mar 10, 2011

Kropotkin said:
Spotted that, and am really annoyed that I got this wrong, as I've already booked my flights back from Mugello on Monday afternoon. Will only catch a bit of the 1000s...

Just wondering Kropo if you have any clues about the 1000's tech specs yet? Are we to expect more of the same overkill electronics or do you think we might see a return to the thinking in the early days of the 990's like they've been aiming too or at least leading us to believe they're aiming too?

Kropotkin · Mar 11, 2011

Talpa said:
Just wondering Kropo if you have any clues about the 1000's tech specs yet? Are we to expect more of the same overkill electronics or do you think we might see a return to the thinking in the early days of the 990's like they've been aiming too or at least leading us to believe they're aiming too?

With just 21 liters of fuel, there will be lots of electronics to control the bike on corner entry. The engines should be a little less peaky, but the only way to reduce electronics is by introducing a spec ECU. The factories won't accept that, so they are being edged out of the Grand Prix Commission.

Talpa · Mar 11, 2011

Kropotkin said:
With just 21 liters of fuel, there will be lots of electronics to control the bike on corner entry. The engines should be a little less peaky, but the only way to reduce electronics is by introducing a spec ECU. The factories won't accept that, so they are being edged out of the Grand Prix Commission.

Thanks Kropo, the less involvement from the MSMA the better, however would a spec ECU solve some of the issues, or create more?

cliche guevara · Mar 11, 2011

Talpa said:
Thanks Kropo, the less involvement from the MSMA the better, however would a spec ECU solve some of the issues, or create more?

take a look at f1, if everybody uses the same ECU everybody gets the same riding aids etc.

i guess it depends on the concept of that Ecu and how big the role of engine mappings are, i can imagine if theres no traction control the riders simply get say 3 different engine mappings they can use

(anybody please correct me if i'm wrong with something)

Kropotkin · Mar 11, 2011

Talpa said:
Thanks Kropo, the less involvement from the MSMA the better, however would a spec ECU solve some of the issues, or create more?

Mike Webb believes they could police a spec ECU.

cliche guevara · Mar 11, 2011

Kropotkin said:
With just 21 liters of fuel, there will be lots of electronics to control the bike on corner entry. The engines should be a little less peaky, but the only way to reduce electronics is by introducing a spec ECU. The factories won't accept that, so they are being edged out of the Grand Prix Commission.

do you know rougly the peak horsepower and the required revs of a current 800?

from what i've come to understand we won't see any significant increase in horsepower,just a little lower reving engines with more torque but i'm wondering why that is.

would it be possible to relinquish that increase in the lower revs but get a few extra horses at the top of the rev range?

riders don't spend so much time below say 10.000rpm anyway and there should be more than enough power for exiting corners right?

i don't know if this is a little short sighted but in my mind : 1000 revs less at any time= less fuel needed overall > more mamba available for top end power

will the increase in displacement safe fuel,make the engines more friendly and "torquey" by decreasing revs ,add horsepower or do a mix of all 3?

#22 · Mar 11, 2011

The only concern i'd have with this is that in F1, the engine design is the same in the sense that they are all using V8 motors. A Spec ECU might have more issues if it has to be made to work with multiple engine platforms (IL4, V4, possibly V5 etc). But then I don't know what the definitive 1000cc rulings are yet

Tom · Mar 11, 2011

Talpa said:
do you think we might see a return to the thinking in the early days of the 990's

The thinking in the early days of the 990's was no different, they just didn't have as advanced electronics as they do now. If they had the technology then they would have used it

#22 said:
The only concern i'd have with this is that in F1, the engine design is the same in the sense that they are all using V8 motors.

They in fact all use practically identical engines. The geomtetry, materials, revs and fuel supply is all tightly goverened so effectively it is a spec engine except that everyone gets to build their own with minor differences

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